queue up 40+ sticker trading threads in lost dogs...
the people around here trading stickers bewilder and amuse me... how fucking old are you?
The last 2 shows I went to at ACL last year I couldn't even get a sticker because all of them were scooped up by people who need to buy 15 to trade for every other show on the tour... i wanted 1 to put in the garage on my beer fridge... craziness... i ditched the sticker book when I was 6.
Send me your address and you can have one for the fridge! But only if you drink good beer...
I drink good beer. That being said, a kind person already sent me one of each. The stickers made it to my fridge. Thank you for the offer though.
queue up 40+ sticker trading threads in lost dogs...
the people around here trading stickers bewilder and amuse me... how fucking old are you?
The last 2 shows I went to at ACL last year I couldn't even get a sticker because all of them were scooped up by people who need to buy 15 to trade for every other show on the tour... i wanted 1 to put in the garage on my beer fridge... craziness... i ditched the sticker book when I was 6.
Why the hostility?
I have a little hostility because I wanted 1 sticker.... just 1. They probably printed 10,000 + and sold them all before I could get one because people need 15-20 so that they could trade them to others to get them all...
To me, it was a keepsake associated with a memory of the show... first rights to this stuff should be given to people who actually attend the show.... but I was restricted from purchasing just 1 because others needed to buy 20 so that they could trade to other people who weren't at the show to get all the other stickers...
that is all. I'm over it. i believe that people who attend the show and have a memory associated with it should have first rights on the merch versus some "collector" who needs to have it to complete the set...
I hear you... You make some valid points.
But didn't the person that sent you the stickers do the exact thing you were upset about? Specifically... Purchase extras to send to other people?
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i was more or less seeing the Nazi Eagle logo and not a swastika. Again, I'm paranoid by nature and thousands of years and generations before me being paranoid as well. Its just what comes to my mind when I see it
i was more or less seeing the Nazi Eagle logo and not a swastika. Again, I'm paranoid by nature and thousands of years and generations before me being paranoid as well
Saw that also but it's a common symbol used Dave. No big deal. It's a war bird.
i was more or less seeing the Nazi Eagle logo and not a swastika. Again, I'm paranoid by nature and thousands of years and generations before me being paranoid as well. Its just what comes to my mind when I see it
Whoa whoa whoa. What? This is gonna be worse than the tits in the Pendleton poster isn't it? What Nazi Eagle? I'm blind
i was more or less seeing the Nazi Eagle logo and not a swastika. Again, I'm paranoid by nature and thousands of years and generations before me being paranoid as well
Saw that also but it's a common symbol used Dave. No big deal. It's a war bird.
gotcha. like i said, its just me. I'm the Larry David of the forums
i was more or less seeing the Nazi Eagle logo and not a swastika. Again, I'm paranoid by nature and thousands of years and generations before me being paranoid as well
i knew what you were alluding to about the eagle and the 30s and 40s. Youllseedragons however brought up a different subject with the square and compass in the letter A and I was addressing that, not the eagle.
NEED that hoodie with the new symbol. Very cool. Thanks for posting.
I'm paranoid but it doesn't resemble anything from the late 1930s to mid 1940s? Lol
Check out the letter a in Pearl Jam. Mind Blown
While yes, YSD, the letter A in that pj logo is similar to the square and compass used by freemasonry, it's just how that font is designed. I did not design that logo, nor any merch, but I can almost guarantee with 100% certainty, that the person who did design that logo, just used a pre-existing font, and it so happens that the A looks that way. There was no secretive meaning for using an A that happens to be similar to a square and compass. As far as I am aware, no member of pj is a freemason... this is an assumption on my part as I've never had a conversation about it with any of them, and it's never come up in conversation, but I like to study symbolism and freemasonry and all things esoteric, and I have never seen any clues or inclinations from any of the band members that showed me they cared at all about freemasonry or any of the ideas and themes freemasonry incorporates. I've included esoteric symbols into a lot of my work, and it's never been at the request of a band, ever. It's always been me choosing to include certain symbols.
And the reality of the square and compass symbol, is it's no different then a star of david. It's two opposing triangles coming together, one from above one from below, symbolizing the union of duality or the coming together of opposites. Duality is one of the key foundations of life: night / day, inhale / exhale, life / death, male / female, sleep / awake. And it's from the union of these opposites where new life is created, as we see in the union of a man and a woman to create a child. The same meaning is found in the vesica pisces symbol which is the overlapping of two circles. When the two opposing or opposite forces come together, a new third force is created. A battery has two opposing sides, a positive and a negative, and when they are used together in a circuit you get power.
So the star of david or freemason's square and compass, at their original core meaning are the same as the yin yang, the intermingling or coming together of opposites. There's nothing evil or secretive, rather they are symbols explaining a core principle of universal truth. This idea of the union of opposites is seen throughout religion and mythology, it just gets misconstrued as literal devils vs angels, when it's all just allegory and personification of opposing forces, like the two opposing sides of a magnet.
But like many symbols, they get used by groups that didn't originate them and then people start to associate the symbols with those groups who took or altered a pre-existing symbol. Like the swastika. Or the cross. People look at the swastika and only see the nazis and what they turned the symbol into meaning. People look at the cross and only see christianity, despite the symbol existing long before christianity. Many ancient symbols have been reappropriated and had their meanings changed so the true meaning of the symbol is buried and almost lost entirely. Like the all-seeing eye. The true meaning of that symbol has been greatly altered to hide it's true meaning, which reveals a key to understanding enlightenment and all-knowing. Certain folks don't want the masses knowing this, so they reappropriated the symbol and have changed the meaning... and it too is now going the way of the swastika.
Well of COURSE none of the members of Pearl Jam are freemasons....
they are all STONECUTTERS!
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i was more or less seeing the Nazi Eagle logo and not a swastika. Again, I'm paranoid by nature and thousands of years and generations before me being paranoid as well
i knew what you were alluding to about the eagle and the 30s and 40s. Youllseedragons however brought up a different subject with the square and compass in the letter A and I was addressing that, not the eagle.
Roger that. An honor to have you address anything here and I love when you talk symbolism
It is hard to see in the original picture but IF the hoody has a thunderbird type of logo, I am definitely after one depending on cost. Will the cost work out to about the same as merch at the shows here in the US? Like hoody usually costs about $60 here, shirts $35 etc...
I saw it as a thunderbird like logo--used in many many instances, but my association is with the Native American thunderbird designs, that's what it reminded me of... at least the small blurry version does. Swastikas, also a NA icon before Nazis hijacked it. There is a popular historic theater here in NM that has swastikas as part of its decor still, because it was designed and built before WWII. But I'm sure it freaks people out all the time.
Anyway I have a friend going to 4 shows coming up, so if someone can post roughly translated prices and better pictures of the hoody and stuff that would help.
Sticker is cool too. Anyone get an extra to trade let me know, I've got quite a few from the last few years I could trade as well as a huge collection going back to about '95.
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i was more or less seeing the Nazi Eagle logo and not a swastika. Again, I'm paranoid by nature and thousands of years and generations before me being paranoid as well
Saw that also but it's a common symbol used Dave. No big deal. It's a war bird.
Stomp Clap! Stomp Stomp Clap! Yes we have feathers but the muscles of men Cause we're birds of war now but we're also men!
Well of COURSE none of the members of Pearl Jam are freemasons....
they are all STONECUTTERS!
a man who called himself "you-know-who" just invited you to a secret " wink-wink" at the "you- know-what"
Brad, if you are the "you know who" I am totally there!!
On the Simpsons 25th (or 20th? can't remember) anniversary special a while back, they showed a quick clip of a female fan who had the Stonecutter logo tattoo on her upper butt cheek.... BEST SIMPSONS FAN EVER.
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i was more or less seeing the Nazi Eagle logo and not a swastika. Again, I'm paranoid by nature and thousands of years and generations before me being paranoid as well
Saw that also but it's a common symbol used Dave. No big deal. It's a war bird.
Stomp Clap! Stomp Stomp Clap! Yes we have feathers but the muscles of men Cause we're birds of war now but we're also men!
BIRDS OF WAR!! caw caw caw caw!
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whatever you do, do not me send a sticker - I do not want one.
i was more or less seeing the Nazi Eagle logo and not a swastika. Again, I'm paranoid by nature and thousands of years and generations before me being paranoid as well. Its just what comes to my mind when I see it
I can see it. There is a lightning bolt at the top. Two lightning bolts together is the SS insignia added to the lines of the eagle. No swastika, but definitely see the SS link.
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But didn't the person that sent you the stickers do the exact thing you were upset about? Specifically... Purchase extras to send to other people?
If someone could help with south American merch i would just be after a hat, sticker and pins.
Let me know if u can help and i will get something for u or repay favor.
What Nazi Eagle? I'm blind
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they are all STONECUTTERS!
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Well of COURSE none of the members of Pearl Jam are freemasons....
they are all STONECUTTERS!
a man who called himself "you-know-who" just invited you to a secret " wink-wink" at the "you- know-what"
I saw it as a thunderbird like logo--used in many many instances, but my association is with the Native American thunderbird designs, that's what it reminded me of... at least the small blurry version does. Swastikas, also a NA icon before Nazis hijacked it. There is a popular historic theater here in NM that has swastikas as part of its decor still, because it was designed and built before WWII. But I'm sure it freaks people out all the time.
Anyway I have a friend going to 4 shows coming up, so if someone can post roughly translated prices and better pictures of the hoody and stuff that would help.
Sticker is cool too. Anyone get an extra to trade let me know, I've got quite a few from the last few years I could trade as well as a huge collection going back to about '95.
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Stomp Stomp Clap!
Yes we have feathers
but the muscles of men
Cause we're birds of war now
but we're also men!
BIRDS OF WAR!! caw caw caw caw!
they are all STONECUTTERS!
a man who called himself "you-know-who" just invited you to a secret " wink-wink" at the "you- know-what"
Brad, if you are the "you know who" I am totally there!!
On the Simpsons 25th (or 20th? can't remember) anniversary special a while back, they showed a quick clip of a female fan who had the Stonecutter logo tattoo on her upper butt cheek.... BEST SIMPSONS FAN EVER.
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Pendleton just had to sneak in the owl faces.
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Love the sticker
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Yes! I forgot about that but someone mentioned it on the GCF poster and it's totally true.
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I still believe the 2006 DC Reaper is the best pj poster of all time... and i dont say that lightly... absolutely fucking badass in so many ways