Canadian Politics Redux

HughFreakingDillon

you have openly supported this. but keep crying. 

Hawk123

Lerxst1992 said:

This forum has been rude towards Americans since trump started this trade war. On an American website where almost no one voted for trump. Thanks for your politeness.

I think you might be misinterpreting or taking the criticism of America personal. It seems to have started when someone said the US is a shitshow. I didn’t read that as the people, but what the country is doing - destroying alliances, allowing an unelected billionaire oligarch fire hundreds of thousands of people, gutting the VA and education systems, the list goes on. I can only speak from my perspective but my issue isn’t with Americans, it’s with America. Unfortunately when the leader of the country does what he is doing, it represents the country as a whole. The same can be said for Russia. Putin is an asshole, Russia a shitshow but I’m sure there are lots of great people there who don’t agree with his actions. 

HughFreakingDillon

Hawk123 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

This forum has been rude towards Americans since trump started this trade war. On an American website where almost no one voted for trump. Thanks for your politeness.

I think you might be misinterpreting or taking the criticism of America personal. It seems to have started when someone said the US is a shitshow. I didn’t read that as the people, but what the country is doing - destroying alliances, allowing an unelected billionaire oligarch fire hundreds of thousands of people, gutting the VA and education systems, the list goes on. I can only speak from my perspective but my issue isn’t with Americans, it’s with America. Unfortunately when the leader of the country does what he is doing, it represents the country as a whole. The same can be said for Russia. Putin is an asshole, Russia a shitshow but I’m sure there are lots of great people there who don’t agree with his actions. 

nothing new. 

criticize israel's government: ANTI SEMITE
support palestinians right not to be blown to bits: PRO HAMAS
criticize US government: RUDE CANADIANS

mickeyrat

what say you canada?

A delegation of a dozen South Korean defence industry and government officials visited Ottawa on March 5 and March 6, with proposals to provide the Canadian Forces with a variety of new equipment, including howitzers, training aircraft, rocket launchers and submarines.

The pitch included promises of significant benefits for Canadian industry as well as a secure supply chain.

Maintenance facilities would be established in Canada, and unlike with U.S. weapon systems, the South Koreans.. 1/2would provide Canada with total access to the onboard technology. In addition, Hanwha has already been signing alliances with Canadian firms for potential work on the proposal.

https://www.threads.net/@1000wrdsinapic/post/DHIbmpOA3uQ?xmt=AQGztY2a4iqSjQETg9J5HiVd9i_FDSNgLaQQ2p3pbr0tzA

Parksy

HughFreakingDillon said:

This thread went nearly 300 pages without mods having to intervene. Wonder what caused the sudden shift in tone? 😂 

was gonna say the same thing lol 

Parksy

mickeyrat said:

what say you canada?

A delegation of a dozen South Korean defence industry and government officials visited Ottawa on March 5 and March 6, with proposals to provide the Canadian Forces with a variety of new equipment, including howitzers, training aircraft, rocket launchers and submarines.

The pitch included promises of significant benefits for Canadian industry as well as a secure supply chain.

Maintenance facilities would be established in Canada, and unlike with U.S. weapon systems, the South Koreans.. 1/2would provide Canada with total access to the onboard technology. In addition, Hanwha has already been signing alliances with Canadian firms for potential work on the proposal.

https://www.threads.net/@1000wrdsinapic/post/DHIbmpOA3uQ?xmt=AQGztY2a4iqSjQETg9J5HiVd9i_FDSNgLaQQ2p3pbr0tzA

will they be giving us discounts on K-Pop concerts as well?  If so, I'm ALL for it. 

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hawk123 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

This forum has been rude towards Americans since trump started this trade war. On an American website where almost no one voted for trump. Thanks for your politeness.

I think you might be misinterpreting or taking the criticism of America personal. It seems to have started when someone said the US is a shitshow. I didn’t read that as the people, but what the country is doing - destroying alliances, allowing an unelected billionaire oligarch fire hundreds of thousands of people, gutting the VA and education systems, the list goes on. I can only speak from my perspective but my issue isn’t with Americans, it’s with America. Unfortunately when the leader of the country does what he is doing, it represents the country as a whole. The same can be said for Russia. Putin is an asshole, Russia a shitshow but I’m sure there are lots of great people there who don’t agree with his actions. 

nothing new. 

criticize israel's government: ANTI SEMITE
support palestinians right not to be blown to bits: PRO HAMAS
criticize US government: RUDE CANADIANS

A broken clock is more accurate than these comments. The complaint is y’all are attacking “Americans” not “trump” nor “trump voters.” Nice interpretations of my comments. 

RUDE CANADIANS 

“ most of America who is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.”
“ wondered last night if Americans realize that the only people that like Americans are Americans and even they don't even like most Americans”
“ Unfucking believable. I don't give a fuck what we have in common with Greenland. “

PRO HAMAS, ANTI SEMITE

Have you or anyone here spent one minute complaining about Muslim atrocities and deaths in Syria or china or elsewhere? The extreme left on amt seems to only have an issue with one problem country. Yes Israel. I’ve said wonder why and they need to negotiate peace. Got cursed out and screamed at for those suggestions. But nice commenting pal. Nearly No one supports steps needed for peace on this forum and Y’all put interesting words to my comments. Wonder why.

Yes y’all are above it all up north. Y’all would have voted for a huge trump ally had he waited a few months to start his trade war. But y’all are better. We get it.

HughFreakingDillon

3 comments = "y'all". got it. well done. 

Lerxst1992

Obfuscation when you cannot contest fact. Well done. Maybe the answer is to keep Americans off of the Canada titled topic? But that cuts both ways to all the American topics.

Edit, so it’s my burden to keep notes on 286 pages? That there is not an anti American bias on this forum by those who cannot differentiate between trump supporters and Americans. My bad. It’s a trade war. You can survive it. You are strong and free.

 

HughFreakingDillon

I'm not sure why people are seemingly obligated to speak about every atrocity happening on the planet right now when they comment on one? Deflection be they name. 

HughFreakingDillon

comment on this topic all you want. as will we. much of what is discussed here affects me directly or indirectly. stop trying to police the forums cuz you don't like what we have to say. very trumpy/musky. 

DarthMaeglin

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hawk123 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

This forum has been rude towards Americans since trump started this trade war. On an American website where almost no one voted for trump. Thanks for your politeness.

I think you might be misinterpreting or taking the criticism of America personal. It seems to have started when someone said the US is a shitshow. I didn’t read that as the people, but what the country is doing - destroying alliances, allowing an unelected billionaire oligarch fire hundreds of thousands of people, gutting the VA and education systems, the list goes on. I can only speak from my perspective but my issue isn’t with Americans, it’s with America. Unfortunately when the leader of the country does what he is doing, it represents the country as a whole. The same can be said for Russia. Putin is an asshole, Russia a shitshow but I’m sure there are lots of great people there who don’t agree with his actions. 

nothing new. 

criticize israel's government: ANTI SEMITE
support palestinians right not to be blown to bits: PRO HAMAS
criticize US government: RUDE CANADIANS

A broken clock is more accurate than these comments. The complaint is y’all are attacking “Americans” not “trump” nor “trump voters.” Nice interpretations of my comments. 

RUDE CANADIANS 

“ most of America who is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.”
“ wondered last night if Americans realize that the only people that like Americans are Americans and even they don't even like most Americans”
“ Unfucking believable. I don't give a fuck what we have in common with Greenland. “

PRO HAMAS, ANTI SEMITE

Have you or anyone here spent one minute complaining about Muslim atrocities and deaths in Syria or china or elsewhere? The extreme left on amt seems to only have an issue with one problem country. Yes Israel. I’ve said wonder why and they need to negotiate peace. Got cursed out and screamed at for those suggestions. But nice commenting pal. Nearly No one supports steps needed for peace on this forum and Y’all put interesting words to my comments. Wonder why.

Yes y’all are above it all up north. Y’all would have voted for a huge trump ally had he waited a few months to start his trade war. But y’all are better. We get it.

For what it’s worth I’m becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the tone on this, where at this point I feel like I should despise my family that lives in the US. It’s an asinine place to be, especially since I know that most of the family did not vote for Trump.

Simply put I refuse to give in to that point of view, similar to how I won’t demand public statements of loyalty from anyone and won’t boo an anthem.

 It’s honestly kind of adorable how so many who have been so critical of Canada for years are suddenly wrapping themselves tightly in the flag.

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

Obfuscation when you cannot contest fact. Well done. Maybe the answer is to keep Americans off of the Canada titled topic? But that cuts both ways to all the American topics.

Edit, so it’s my burden to keep notes on 286 pages? That there is not an anti American bias on this forum by those who cannot differentiate between trump supporters and Americans. My bad. It’s a trade war. You can survive it. You are strong and free.

 

the point is you are lumping everything together into one confusing mass. No, we don't ALL lump ALL americans into trumpers. Some do, most don't. But you are doing what you are accusing everyone else of: lumping everyone in with a few. 

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

comment on this topic all you want. as will we. much of what is discussed here affects me directly or indirectly. stop trying to police the forums cuz you don't like what we have to say. very trumpy/musky. 

Yep. The trade war and anti American hostility does not affect me.

I am an American and do not appreciate getting cursed out when trying to have a reasonable discussion about this mess. I came here against the trade war and was met with hostility towards my country. 

You were about to vote for a trump ally, yet you’re much better! your comments exhibit great skill to use humor to belittle my points and pretend they dont exist.

 Your comments are an example of expertise at toeing the line at the rules here, not in earnest discussion.

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hawk123 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

This forum has been rude towards Americans since trump started this trade war. On an American website where almost no one voted for trump. Thanks for your politeness.

I think you might be misinterpreting or taking the criticism of America personal. It seems to have started when someone said the US is a shitshow. I didn’t read that as the people, but what the country is doing - destroying alliances, allowing an unelected billionaire oligarch fire hundreds of thousands of people, gutting the VA and education systems, the list goes on. I can only speak from my perspective but my issue isn’t with Americans, it’s with America. Unfortunately when the leader of the country does what he is doing, it represents the country as a whole. The same can be said for Russia. Putin is an asshole, Russia a shitshow but I’m sure there are lots of great people there who don’t agree with his actions. 

nothing new. 

criticize israel's government: ANTI SEMITE
support palestinians right not to be blown to bits: PRO HAMAS
criticize US government: RUDE CANADIANS

A broken clock is more accurate than these comments. The complaint is y’all are attacking “Americans” not “trump” nor “trump voters.” Nice interpretations of my comments. 

RUDE CANADIANS 

“ most of America who is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.”
“ wondered last night if Americans realize that the only people that like Americans are Americans and even they don't even like most Americans”
“ Unfucking believable. I don't give a fuck what we have in common with Greenland. “

PRO HAMAS, ANTI SEMITE

Have you or anyone here spent one minute complaining about Muslim atrocities and deaths in Syria or china or elsewhere? The extreme left on amt seems to only have an issue with one problem country. Yes Israel. I’ve said wonder why and they need to negotiate peace. Got cursed out and screamed at for those suggestions. But nice commenting pal. Nearly No one supports steps needed for peace on this forum and Y’all put interesting words to my comments. Wonder why.

Yes y’all are above it all up north. Y’all would have voted for a huge trump ally had he waited a few months to start his trade war. But y’all are better. We get it.

well all support steps for peace. just not the continued cleansing and destruction of the palestinian people. wonder why. it's crazy how some people on this forum think if you don't support the continued aggression of one country that you somehow support war. 

Spunkie

mickeyrat said:

what say you canada?

A delegation of a dozen South Korean defence industry and government officials visited Ottawa on March 5 and March 6, with proposals to provide the Canadian Forces with a variety of new equipment, including howitzers, training aircraft, rocket launchers and submarines.

The pitch included promises of significant benefits for Canadian industry as well as a secure supply chain.

Maintenance facilities would be established in Canada, and unlike with U.S. weapon systems, the South Koreans.. 1/2would provide Canada with total access to the onboard technology. In addition, Hanwha has already been signing alliances with Canadian firms for potential work on the proposal.

https://www.threads.net/@1000wrdsinapic/post/DHIbmpOA3uQ?xmt=AQGztY2a4iqSjQETg9J5HiVd9i_FDSNgLaQQ2p3pbr0tzA

"I wish I came from a country
That never went to war
I wish I lived in a country
that took care of its poor

But in the meantime thanks for the example.

In the meantime thanks for giving us hope.

In the meantime show our leaders what can be done,..."

-Ed Vedder, Wishlist, Vancouver, 2005

Hawk123

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

comment on this topic all you want. as will we. much of what is discussed here affects me directly or indirectly. stop trying to police the forums cuz you don't like what we have to say. very trumpy/musky. 

Yep. The trade war and anti American hostility does not affect me.

I am an American and do not appreciate getting cursed out when trying to have a reasonable discussion about this mess. I came here against the trade war and was met with hostility towards my country. 

You were about to vote for a trump ally, yet you’re much better! your comments exhibit great skill to use humor to belittle my points and pretend they dont exist.

 Your comments are an example of expertise at toeing the line at the rules here, not in earnest discussion.

So you can admit it’s a mess but then get offended when a Canadian critiques America? 

There is a bit more bite in what we’re saying lately and that’s thanks to one person, Trump. It’s frustrating that the majority of voters chose that direction, especially knowing full well what he was capable of, chaos. No one expected the trade war and threats to take over Canada and Greenland but it’s happened and there isn’t much that can be done other than vent frustration. 

HughFreakingDillon

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

comment on this topic all you want. as will we. much of what is discussed here affects me directly or indirectly. stop trying to police the forums cuz you don't like what we have to say. very trumpy/musky. 

Yep. The trade war and anti American hostility does not affect me.

I am an American and do not appreciate getting cursed out when trying to have a reasonable discussion about this mess. I came here against the trade war and was met with hostility towards my country. 

You were about to vote for a trump ally, yet you’re much better! your comments exhibit great skill to use humor to belittle my points and pretend they dont exist.

 Your comments are an example of expertise at toeing the line at the rules here, not in earnest discussion.

who was I about to vote for?

if you have a problem with "getting cursed out", deal with that person. Stop whining about being victimized by every single canadian on here. 

edit: and yes, everyone who disagrees with you is somehow a bully. *sigh*

HughFreakingDillon

Hawk123 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

comment on this topic all you want. as will we. much of what is discussed here affects me directly or indirectly. stop trying to police the forums cuz you don't like what we have to say. very trumpy/musky. 

Yep. The trade war and anti American hostility does not affect me.

I am an American and do not appreciate getting cursed out when trying to have a reasonable discussion about this mess. I came here against the trade war and was met with hostility towards my country. 

You were about to vote for a trump ally, yet you’re much better! your comments exhibit great skill to use humor to belittle my points and pretend they dont exist.

 Your comments are an example of expertise at toeing the line at the rules here, not in earnest discussion.

So you can admit it’s a mess but then get offended when a Canadian critiques America? 

There is a bit more bite in what we’re saying lately and that’s thanks to one person, Trump. It’s frustrating that the majority of voters chose that direction, especially knowing full well what he was capable of, chaos. No one expected the trade war and threats to take over Canada and Greenland but it’s happened and there isn’t much that can be done other than vent frustration. 

and if people can't separate critiques of a government/their supporters, that's their problem. 

HughFreakingDillon

DarthMaeglin said:

Lerxst1992 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Hawk123 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

This forum has been rude towards Americans since trump started this trade war. On an American website where almost no one voted for trump. Thanks for your politeness.

I think you might be misinterpreting or taking the criticism of America personal. It seems to have started when someone said the US is a shitshow. I didn’t read that as the people, but what the country is doing - destroying alliances, allowing an unelected billionaire oligarch fire hundreds of thousands of people, gutting the VA and education systems, the list goes on. I can only speak from my perspective but my issue isn’t with Americans, it’s with America. Unfortunately when the leader of the country does what he is doing, it represents the country as a whole. The same can be said for Russia. Putin is an asshole, Russia a shitshow but I’m sure there are lots of great people there who don’t agree with his actions. 

nothing new. 

criticize israel's government: ANTI SEMITE
support palestinians right not to be blown to bits: PRO HAMAS
criticize US government: RUDE CANADIANS

A broken clock is more accurate than these comments. The complaint is y’all are attacking “Americans” not “trump” nor “trump voters.” Nice interpretations of my comments. 

RUDE CANADIANS 

“ most of America who is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.”
“ wondered last night if Americans realize that the only people that like Americans are Americans and even they don't even like most Americans”
“ Unfucking believable. I don't give a fuck what we have in common with Greenland. “

PRO HAMAS, ANTI SEMITE

Have you or anyone here spent one minute complaining about Muslim atrocities and deaths in Syria or china or elsewhere? The extreme left on amt seems to only have an issue with one problem country. Yes Israel. I’ve said wonder why and they need to negotiate peace. Got cursed out and screamed at for those suggestions. But nice commenting pal. Nearly No one supports steps needed for peace on this forum and Y’all put interesting words to my comments. Wonder why.

Yes y’all are above it all up north. Y’all would have voted for a huge trump ally had he waited a few months to start his trade war. But y’all are better. We get it.

For what it’s worth I’m becoming increasingly uncomfortable with the tone on this, where at this point I feel like I should despise my family that lives in the US. It’s an asinine place to be, especially since I know that most of the family did not vote for Trump.

Simply put I refuse to give in to that point of view, similar to how I won’t demand public statements of loyalty from anyone and won’t boo an anthem.

 It’s honestly kind of adorable how so many who have been so critical of Canada for years are suddenly wrapping themselves tightly in the flag.

if trump did one thing, he brought canada together. lol