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My best friend and his mom were born and raised in Canada. He moved next door to me when we were 9. I have spent quite a bit of time up there throughout the years, I understand Canadians rather well. Fun place to visit. Where his family lived was rural, which I prefer. Wouldn't want to live there.dignin said:
Yeah, no shit.HughFreakingDillon said:If your ideas of how to deal with trump on the serious issue of annexation of a sovereign nation could be followed by the word “psych!”, I’m glad you aren’t in any decision-making or advisory role.
It's revealing and not surprising how little America/Americans understand Canada/Canadians. We're taking this seriously unlike most of America who is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.
We're not going to just rollover.
As far as you guys "not going to roll over," What are you going to do? You seemed to have a difficult time with some uneducated truckers....
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You showed your ignorance with that last sentence.seanwon said:
My best friend and his mom were born and raised in Canada. He moved next door to me when we were 9. I have spent quite a bit of time up there throughout the years, I understand Canadians rather well. Fun place to visit. Where his family lived was rural, which I prefer. Wouldn't want to live there.dignin said:
Yeah, no shit.HughFreakingDillon said:If your ideas of how to deal with trump on the serious issue of annexation of a sovereign nation could be followed by the word “psych!”, I’m glad you aren’t in any decision-making or advisory role.
It's revealing and not surprising how little America/Americans understand Canada/Canadians. We're taking this seriously unlike most of America who is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.
We're not going to just rollover.
As far as you guys "not going to roll over," What are you going to do? You seemed to have a difficult time with some uneducated truckers....0 -
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you might want to sit this one out.seanwon said:
My best friend and his mom were born and raised in Canada. He moved next door to me when we were 9. I have spent quite a bit of time up there throughout the years, I understand Canadians rather well. Fun place to visit. Where his family lived was rural, which I prefer. Wouldn't want to live there.dignin said:
Yeah, no shit.HughFreakingDillon said:If your ideas of how to deal with trump on the serious issue of annexation of a sovereign nation could be followed by the word “psych!”, I’m glad you aren’t in any decision-making or advisory role.
It's revealing and not surprising how little America/Americans understand Canada/Canadians. We're taking this seriously unlike most of America who is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.
We're not going to just rollover.
As far as you guys "not going to roll over," What are you going to do? You seemed to have a difficult time with some uneducated truckers....
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seanwon said:
My best friend and his mom were born and raised in Canada. He moved next door to me when we were 9. I have spent quite a bit of time up there throughout the years, I understand Canadians rather well. Fun place to visit. Where his family lived was rural, which I prefer. Wouldn't want to live there.dignin said:
Yeah, no shit.HughFreakingDillon said:If your ideas of how to deal with trump on the serious issue of annexation of a sovereign nation could be followed by the word “psych!”, I’m glad you aren’t in any decision-making or advisory role.
It's revealing and not surprising how little America/Americans understand Canada/Canadians. We're taking this seriously unlike most of America who is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.
We're not going to just rollover.
As far as you guys "not going to roll over," What are you going to do? You seemed to have a difficult time with some uneducated truckers....
I honestly don't really understand what you are trying to say here... Can you expand on your thoughts, assuming you understand anything?
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That poster isn't wrong, we did have a problem with the uneducated truckers. They occupied our capital and blocked our border for a period of time.I do find the whole thing tough. In a tariff war, I think we hurt a lot more than the US hurts. I think a lot of Canadians and Americans underestimate the impact it will have on us. It'll slow down exports to the US, which results in layoffs, which results in those people buying less, defaulting on mortgages, and we'd go into a pretty big recession. Our government spent a lot of money during covid, and our economy is already a bit soft, so we don't have slack to absorb it. Our government would have to try and spend their way out of it, so even if after spending a few years building infrastructure and finding new trading partners, our national debt would be considerably larger, which makes us more vulnerable, and what not.While were the biggest trading partner to the US, the percentages are pretty lopsided. I think Tariff's create an inflationary problem for the U.S. (or make the current problem even worse), as they pay higher prices for the stuff the import from us, have to pay more to import from elsewhere, or spend a lot on resources to create internal capacity. Still I think we're looking at a mega recession vs. inflation problem, so I think outcome is a bit lopsided.If America decided to invade and take our country. Most of us our soft. Our military is small and woefully underfunding. I think we'd be like one of the first countries to get "annexed" by Germany in WWII.Maybe I'm pessimistic, but even when we Canadian say will give hell to the U.S. if they do wrong by us, I don't even think most Canadians realize how bad it could get. It's why our politicians continue to wait for the U.S. to make the first move, because they don't want to bring this on us, if they don't have too.I suppose the question is, how likely do we think the U.S. administration is to do the tariff's . They're inflation is already creeping back up. If Trump throws out all these free trade agreements, it will drive up prices in the U.S., and maybe the people that voted for him, but aren't 100% die hard MAGA's revolt when the inflation starts to climb.Post edited by Zod on0
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HughFreakingDillon said:If your ideas of how to deal with trump on the serious issue of annexation of a sovereign nation could be followed by the word “psych!”, I’m glad you aren’t in any decision-making or advisory role.Fighting him and putting him down clearly has never worked. I was suggesting to be positive and hope that he respects his two term limit. If he doesn’t, and the courts don’t stop him, whether Canadian or Democrat, it really doesn’t matter much, he will shape North America in any image he wants.0
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Bannon is not 100% wrong. Will Canada be able to keep China and Russia out of the Arctic, without compromising security for the continent?
”“The new great game of the 21st century is going to be the Arctic. It’s already a great power struggle between the Chinese Communist Party and the Russians up there. Canada’s former most secure border, your northern provinces are now your soft underbelly,” Bannon said.0 -
The response to the truckers, wouldn’t, and shouldn’t be, equal to that of an invasion from another country. Come on.Zod said:That poster isn't wrong, we did have a problem with the uneducated truckers. They occupied our capital and blocked our border for a period of time.I do find the whole thing tough. In a tariff war, I think we hurt a lot more than the US hurts. I think a lot of Canadians and Americans underestimate the impact it will have on us. It'll slow down exports to the US, which results in layoffs, which results in those people buying less, defaulting on mortgages, and we'd go into a pretty big recession. Our government spent a lot of money during covid, and our economy is already a bit soft, so we don't have slack to absorb it. Our government would have to try and spend their way out of it, so even if after spending a few years building infrastructure and finding new trading partners, our national debt would be considerably larger, which makes us more vulnerable, and what not.While were the biggest trading partner to the US, the percentages are pretty lopsided. I think Tariff's create an inflationary problem for the U.S. (or make the current problem even worse), as they pay higher prices for the stuff the import from us, have to pay more to import from elsewhere, or spend a lot on resources to create internal capacity. Still I think we're looking at a mega recession vs. inflation problem, so I think outcome is a bit lopsided.If America decided to invade and take our country. Most of us our soft. Our military is small and woefully underfunding. I think we'd be like one of the first countries to get "annexed" by Germany in WWII.Maybe I'm pessimistic, but even when we Canadian say will give hell to the U.S. if they do wrong by us, I don't even think most Canadians realize how bad it could get. It's why our politicians continue to wait for the U.S. to make the first move, because they don't want to bring this on us, if they don't have too.I suppose the question is, how likely do we think the U.S. administration is to do the tariff's . They're inflation is already creeping back up. If Trump throws out all these free trade agreements, it will drive up prices in the U.S., and maybe the people that voted for him, but aren't 100% die hard MAGA's revolt when the inflation starts to climb.It’s like saying we couldn’t handle a rat infestation because we let a few mosquitoes bother us at a bbq.Trump’s tariffs will last as long as the American consumer and business sectors will tolerate it. Then he’ll back off, claiming they worked, while winning nothing in the end.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
If “I’m not racist cuz I have one black friend” were a post about Canada.seanwon said:
My best friend and his mom were born and raised in Canada. He moved next door to me when we were 9. I have spent quite a bit of time up there throughout the years, I understand Canadians rather well. Fun place to visit. Where his family lived was rural, which I prefer. Wouldn't want to live there.dignin said:
Yeah, no shit.HughFreakingDillon said:If your ideas of how to deal with trump on the serious issue of annexation of a sovereign nation could be followed by the word “psych!”, I’m glad you aren’t in any decision-making or advisory role.
It's revealing and not surprising how little America/Americans understand Canada/Canadians. We're taking this seriously unlike most of America who is sleepwalking into a dictatorship.
We're not going to just rollover.
As far as you guys "not going to roll over," What are you going to do? You seemed to have a difficult time with some uneducated truckers....By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Only because it just came up, one of the organizers of the “uneducated truckers” was sentenced today.
https://torontosun.com/news/national/freedom-convoy-organizer-pat-king-given-3-month-conditional-sentence
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HughFreakingDillon said:
The response to the truckers, wouldn’t, and shouldn’t be, equal to that of an invasion from another country. Come on.Zod said:That poster isn't wrong, we did have a problem with the uneducated truckers. They occupied our capital and blocked our border for a period of time.I do find the whole thing tough. In a tariff war, I think we hurt a lot more than the US hurts. I think a lot of Canadians and Americans underestimate the impact it will have on us. It'll slow down exports to the US, which results in layoffs, which results in those people buying less, defaulting on mortgages, and we'd go into a pretty big recession. Our government spent a lot of money during covid, and our economy is already a bit soft, so we don't have slack to absorb it. Our government would have to try and spend their way out of it, so even if after spending a few years building infrastructure and finding new trading partners, our national debt would be considerably larger, which makes us more vulnerable, and what not.While were the biggest trading partner to the US, the percentages are pretty lopsided. I think Tariff's create an inflationary problem for the U.S. (or make the current problem even worse), as they pay higher prices for the stuff the import from us, have to pay more to import from elsewhere, or spend a lot on resources to create internal capacity. Still I think we're looking at a mega recession vs. inflation problem, so I think outcome is a bit lopsided.If America decided to invade and take our country. Most of us our soft. Our military is small and woefully underfunding. I think we'd be like one of the first countries to get "annexed" by Germany in WWII.Maybe I'm pessimistic, but even when we Canadian say will give hell to the U.S. if they do wrong by us, I don't even think most Canadians realize how bad it could get. It's why our politicians continue to wait for the U.S. to make the first move, because they don't want to bring this on us, if they don't have too.I suppose the question is, how likely do we think the U.S. administration is to do the tariff's . They're inflation is already creeping back up. If Trump throws out all these free trade agreements, it will drive up prices in the U.S., and maybe the people that voted for him, but aren't 100% die hard MAGA's revolt when the inflation starts to climb.It’s like saying we couldn’t handle a rat infestation because we let a few mosquitoes bother us at a bbq.Trump’s tariffs will last as long as the American consumer and business sectors will tolerate it. Then he’ll back off, claiming they worked, while winning nothing in the end.
I mean we did let our version of MAGA occupy our capital city for three weeks, plus blocked our borders for a number of days. The only thing I take offense with is that it did get handled, it just took a bit of time.
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The American poster is suggesting we can’t defend ourselves because of how the convoy was handled. Not even remotely comparable, to the point of absurdity.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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You are exaggerating the blocking of our border (2 border crossings for a short period of time) and the occupation of our capital (a few streets).Zod said:HughFreakingDillon said:
The response to the truckers, wouldn’t, and shouldn’t be, equal to that of an invasion from another country. Come on.Zod said:That poster isn't wrong, we did have a problem with the uneducated truckers. They occupied our capital and blocked our border for a period of time.I do find the whole thing tough. In a tariff war, I think we hurt a lot more than the US hurts. I think a lot of Canadians and Americans underestimate the impact it will have on us. It'll slow down exports to the US, which results in layoffs, which results in those people buying less, defaulting on mortgages, and we'd go into a pretty big recession. Our government spent a lot of money during covid, and our economy is already a bit soft, so we don't have slack to absorb it. Our government would have to try and spend their way out of it, so even if after spending a few years building infrastructure and finding new trading partners, our national debt would be considerably larger, which makes us more vulnerable, and what not.While were the biggest trading partner to the US, the percentages are pretty lopsided. I think Tariff's create an inflationary problem for the U.S. (or make the current problem even worse), as they pay higher prices for the stuff the import from us, have to pay more to import from elsewhere, or spend a lot on resources to create internal capacity. Still I think we're looking at a mega recession vs. inflation problem, so I think outcome is a bit lopsided.If America decided to invade and take our country. Most of us our soft. Our military is small and woefully underfunding. I think we'd be like one of the first countries to get "annexed" by Germany in WWII.Maybe I'm pessimistic, but even when we Canadian say will give hell to the U.S. if they do wrong by us, I don't even think most Canadians realize how bad it could get. It's why our politicians continue to wait for the U.S. to make the first move, because they don't want to bring this on us, if they don't have too.I suppose the question is, how likely do we think the U.S. administration is to do the tariff's . They're inflation is already creeping back up. If Trump throws out all these free trade agreements, it will drive up prices in the U.S., and maybe the people that voted for him, but aren't 100% die hard MAGA's revolt when the inflation starts to climb.It’s like saying we couldn’t handle a rat infestation because we let a few mosquitoes bother us at a bbq.Trump’s tariffs will last as long as the American consumer and business sectors will tolerate it. Then he’ll back off, claiming they worked, while winning nothing in the end.
I mean we did let our version of MAGA occupy our capital city for three weeks, plus blocked our borders for a number of days. The only thing I take offense with is that it did get handled, it just took a bit of time.
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SteveO should put the risk board away and remember that Canada has two other staunch allies, nuclear powers, I might add. ‘Murica isn’t as indispensable as it thinks. Regardless, Canada and the EU now know what the Middle East has known for decades, you can’t trust the ‘Muricans.Lerxst1992 said:Bannon is not 100% wrong. Will Canada be able to keep China and Russia out of the Arctic, without compromising security for the continent?
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Completely agree.dignin said:
You are exaggerating the blocking of our border (2 border crossings for a short period of time) and the occupation of our capital (a few streets).Zod said:HughFreakingDillon said:
The response to the truckers, wouldn’t, and shouldn’t be, equal to that of an invasion from another country. Come on.Zod said:That poster isn't wrong, we did have a problem with the uneducated truckers. They occupied our capital and blocked our border for a period of time.I do find the whole thing tough. In a tariff war, I think we hurt a lot more than the US hurts. I think a lot of Canadians and Americans underestimate the impact it will have on us. It'll slow down exports to the US, which results in layoffs, which results in those people buying less, defaulting on mortgages, and we'd go into a pretty big recession. Our government spent a lot of money during covid, and our economy is already a bit soft, so we don't have slack to absorb it. Our government would have to try and spend their way out of it, so even if after spending a few years building infrastructure and finding new trading partners, our national debt would be considerably larger, which makes us more vulnerable, and what not.While were the biggest trading partner to the US, the percentages are pretty lopsided. I think Tariff's create an inflationary problem for the U.S. (or make the current problem even worse), as they pay higher prices for the stuff the import from us, have to pay more to import from elsewhere, or spend a lot on resources to create internal capacity. Still I think we're looking at a mega recession vs. inflation problem, so I think outcome is a bit lopsided.If America decided to invade and take our country. Most of us our soft. Our military is small and woefully underfunding. I think we'd be like one of the first countries to get "annexed" by Germany in WWII.Maybe I'm pessimistic, but even when we Canadian say will give hell to the U.S. if they do wrong by us, I don't even think most Canadians realize how bad it could get. It's why our politicians continue to wait for the U.S. to make the first move, because they don't want to bring this on us, if they don't have too.I suppose the question is, how likely do we think the U.S. administration is to do the tariff's . They're inflation is already creeping back up. If Trump throws out all these free trade agreements, it will drive up prices in the U.S., and maybe the people that voted for him, but aren't 100% die hard MAGA's revolt when the inflation starts to climb.It’s like saying we couldn’t handle a rat infestation because we let a few mosquitoes bother us at a bbq.Trump’s tariffs will last as long as the American consumer and business sectors will tolerate it. Then he’ll back off, claiming they worked, while winning nothing in the end.
I mean we did let our version of MAGA occupy our capital city for three weeks, plus blocked our borders for a number of days. The only thing I take offense with is that it did get handled, it just took a bit of time.
At no point was our democracy in question.
Sadly my take is that we can’t, in a practical sense defend ourselves, especially from our southern neighbour. Part of that is successive governments underfunding our military, but it’s more a simple equation of the numbers.
For decades now I’ve been saying that someday Canada will wake up and be American, mainly when our resources become too tempting. I figured this was decades, if not centuries, from occurring but aren’t so sure under the current rhetoric."The world is full of idiots and I am but one of them."
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Some people seem to forget those organizations called NATO and the UN.Trump is not invading.And to suggest he’ll do it by strong arming us, would be economical suicide.Just another doge-straction.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0
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agreed.HughFreakingDillon said:Some people seem to forget those organizations called NATO and the UN.Trump is not invading.And to suggest he’ll do it by strong arming us, would be economical suicide.Just another doge-straction.
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Agreed. That's how i've always felt. I figured they'd be civil until they need what they have, then civility ends. Either our resources or for northern migration when global warming had a bigger impact. Like you I was thinking were a long ways from that point. Didn't think it would feel this immenent. Hopefully it doesn't happen for a long while.DarthMaeglin said:
Completely agree.dignin said:
You are exaggerating the blocking of our border (2 border crossings for a short period of time) and the occupation of our capital (a few streets).Zod said:HughFreakingDillon said:
The response to the truckers, wouldn’t, and shouldn’t be, equal to that of an invasion from another country. Come on.Zod said:That poster isn't wrong, we did have a problem with the uneducated truckers. They occupied our capital and blocked our border for a period of time.I do find the whole thing tough. In a tariff war, I think we hurt a lot more than the US hurts. I think a lot of Canadians and Americans underestimate the impact it will have on us. It'll slow down exports to the US, which results in layoffs, which results in those people buying less, defaulting on mortgages, and we'd go into a pretty big recession. Our government spent a lot of money during covid, and our economy is already a bit soft, so we don't have slack to absorb it. Our government would have to try and spend their way out of it, so even if after spending a few years building infrastructure and finding new trading partners, our national debt would be considerably larger, which makes us more vulnerable, and what not.While were the biggest trading partner to the US, the percentages are pretty lopsided. I think Tariff's create an inflationary problem for the U.S. (or make the current problem even worse), as they pay higher prices for the stuff the import from us, have to pay more to import from elsewhere, or spend a lot on resources to create internal capacity. Still I think we're looking at a mega recession vs. inflation problem, so I think outcome is a bit lopsided.If America decided to invade and take our country. Most of us our soft. Our military is small and woefully underfunding. I think we'd be like one of the first countries to get "annexed" by Germany in WWII.Maybe I'm pessimistic, but even when we Canadian say will give hell to the U.S. if they do wrong by us, I don't even think most Canadians realize how bad it could get. It's why our politicians continue to wait for the U.S. to make the first move, because they don't want to bring this on us, if they don't have too.I suppose the question is, how likely do we think the U.S. administration is to do the tariff's . They're inflation is already creeping back up. If Trump throws out all these free trade agreements, it will drive up prices in the U.S., and maybe the people that voted for him, but aren't 100% die hard MAGA's revolt when the inflation starts to climb.It’s like saying we couldn’t handle a rat infestation because we let a few mosquitoes bother us at a bbq.Trump’s tariffs will last as long as the American consumer and business sectors will tolerate it. Then he’ll back off, claiming they worked, while winning nothing in the end.
I mean we did let our version of MAGA occupy our capital city for three weeks, plus blocked our borders for a number of days. The only thing I take offense with is that it did get handled, it just took a bit of time.
At no point was our democracy in question.
Sadly my take is that we can’t, in a practical sense defend ourselves, especially from our southern neighbour. Part of that is successive governments underfunding our military, but it’s more a simple equation of the numbers.
For decades now I’ve been saying that someday Canada will wake up and be American, mainly when our resources become too tempting. I figured this was decades, if not centuries, from occurring but aren’t so sure under the current rhetoric.0 -
Sorry, I missed that part of the argument. Yaj it was an amnoyance, but you're right our demcracy wasn't at risk from it.dignin said:
You are exaggerating the blocking of our border (2 border crossings for a short period of time) and the occupation of our capital (a few streets).Zod said:HughFreakingDillon said:
The response to the truckers, wouldn’t, and shouldn’t be, equal to that of an invasion from another country. Come on.Zod said:That poster isn't wrong, we did have a problem with the uneducated truckers. They occupied our capital and blocked our border for a period of time.I do find the whole thing tough. In a tariff war, I think we hurt a lot more than the US hurts. I think a lot of Canadians and Americans underestimate the impact it will have on us. It'll slow down exports to the US, which results in layoffs, which results in those people buying less, defaulting on mortgages, and we'd go into a pretty big recession. Our government spent a lot of money during covid, and our economy is already a bit soft, so we don't have slack to absorb it. Our government would have to try and spend their way out of it, so even if after spending a few years building infrastructure and finding new trading partners, our national debt would be considerably larger, which makes us more vulnerable, and what not.While were the biggest trading partner to the US, the percentages are pretty lopsided. I think Tariff's create an inflationary problem for the U.S. (or make the current problem even worse), as they pay higher prices for the stuff the import from us, have to pay more to import from elsewhere, or spend a lot on resources to create internal capacity. Still I think we're looking at a mega recession vs. inflation problem, so I think outcome is a bit lopsided.If America decided to invade and take our country. Most of us our soft. Our military is small and woefully underfunding. I think we'd be like one of the first countries to get "annexed" by Germany in WWII.Maybe I'm pessimistic, but even when we Canadian say will give hell to the U.S. if they do wrong by us, I don't even think most Canadians realize how bad it could get. It's why our politicians continue to wait for the U.S. to make the first move, because they don't want to bring this on us, if they don't have too.I suppose the question is, how likely do we think the U.S. administration is to do the tariff's . They're inflation is already creeping back up. If Trump throws out all these free trade agreements, it will drive up prices in the U.S., and maybe the people that voted for him, but aren't 100% die hard MAGA's revolt when the inflation starts to climb.It’s like saying we couldn’t handle a rat infestation because we let a few mosquitoes bother us at a bbq.Trump’s tariffs will last as long as the American consumer and business sectors will tolerate it. Then he’ll back off, claiming they worked, while winning nothing in the end.
I mean we did let our version of MAGA occupy our capital city for three weeks, plus blocked our borders for a number of days. The only thing I take offense with is that it did get handled, it just took a bit of time.
At no point was our democracy in question.
It did make is all embarassed to wear Canadian Flags for a few years :(0
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