Canadian Politics Redux

Lerxst1992

HughFreakingDillon said:

I think this might actually have an unintended consequence that Trump doesn’t recognize (and likely doesn’t care about): this is going to unite canada in a way usually only seen during international hockey tournaments. 

Go watch the Jets or Leafs and cheer on their Russian players.

PJ_Soul

Zod said:

I don't use a lot of social media, pretty much just Facebook, but I find it odd, there's almost nothing about the tariff's on it.  Almost creepy in it's absence.

Facebook banned news in Canada. Since then, Canadians on Facebook are now mostly bots and freedom truckers. I deactivated my account when Trump came back into office, that dipshit Zuckerberg bowed to him, and Facebook fired all its fact checkers. Get off Facebook now!

brianlux

jhager79 said:

brianlux said:

dignin said:

The Canadian government has been warned if we retaliate the US will hit us harder.

Chin up fellow canucks. Fuck them and let's dig in.

So, does that mean "fuck you" to all of us in the U.S., even if we are strongly against the tariffs, even if, as I just did above, acknowledge our feeling friendly toward Canada and Canadians, even if we abhor what is being done.  Great, just a big "fuck you" to all of us?  Jesus Christ, man.  Fuck that.

Absolutely, it’s time we start seeing other people. We won’t be visiting you and would appreciate it if you didn’t visit us.

WTF is the matter with you?  Don't you see that a lot of us hate what is happening and voted against it?  You're grinding the wrong fucking axe.

mrussel1

brianlux said:

jhager79 said:

brianlux said:

dignin said:

The Canadian government has been warned if we retaliate the US will hit us harder.

Chin up fellow canucks. Fuck them and let's dig in.

So, does that mean "fuck you" to all of us in the U.S., even if we are strongly against the tariffs, even if, as I just did above, acknowledge our feeling friendly toward Canada and Canadians, even if we abhor what is being done.  Great, just a big "fuck you" to all of us?  Jesus Christ, man.  Fuck that.

Absolutely, it’s time we start seeing other people. We won’t be visiting you and would appreciate it if you didn’t visit us.

WTF is the matter with you?  Don't you see that a lot of us hate what is happening and voted against it?  You're grinding the wrong fucking axe.

I love the new, more pissed off Brian. 

brianlux

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

jhager79 said:

brianlux said:

dignin said:

The Canadian government has been warned if we retaliate the US will hit us harder.

Chin up fellow canucks. Fuck them and let's dig in.

So, does that mean "fuck you" to all of us in the U.S., even if we are strongly against the tariffs, even if, as I just did above, acknowledge our feeling friendly toward Canada and Canadians, even if we abhor what is being done.  Great, just a big "fuck you" to all of us?  Jesus Christ, man.  Fuck that.

Absolutely, it’s time we start seeing other people. We won’t be visiting you and would appreciate it if you didn’t visit us.

WTF is the matter with you?  Don't you see that a lot of us hate what is happening and voted against it?  You're grinding the wrong fucking axe.

I love the new, more pissed off Brian. 

I'm only pissed off at idiots and spare no rancor for fools.  Otherwise, I'm a fairly easy going and happy person.  Every day is a gift.

mrussel1

brianlux said:

mrussel1 said:

brianlux said:

jhager79 said:

brianlux said:

dignin said:

The Canadian government has been warned if we retaliate the US will hit us harder.

Chin up fellow canucks. Fuck them and let's dig in.

So, does that mean "fuck you" to all of us in the U.S., even if we are strongly against the tariffs, even if, as I just did above, acknowledge our feeling friendly toward Canada and Canadians, even if we abhor what is being done.  Great, just a big "fuck you" to all of us?  Jesus Christ, man.  Fuck that.

Absolutely, it’s time we start seeing other people. We won’t be visiting you and would appreciate it if you didn’t visit us.

WTF is the matter with you?  Don't you see that a lot of us hate what is happening and voted against it?  You're grinding the wrong fucking axe.

I love the new, more pissed off Brian. 

I'm only pissed off at idiots and spare no rancor for fools.  Otherwise, I'm a fairly easy going and happy person.  Every day is a gift.

I don’t suffer fools well either. Leads to some warnings around here at times. 

PJ_Soul

HughFreakingDillon said:

brianlux said:

dignin said:

The Canadian government has been warned if we retaliate the US will hit us harder.

Chin up fellow canucks. Fuck them and let's dig in.

So, does that mean "fuck you" to all of us in the U.S., even if we are strongly against the tariffs, even if, as I just did above, acknowledge our feeling friendly toward Canada and Canadians, even if we abhor what is being done.  Great, just a big "fuck you" to all of us?  Jesus Christ, man.  Fuck that.

I don’t think that’s what dignin meant. 

Definitely not. The beef is with the current American government and every American who voted for it.

BF89905

DE4173 said:

mrussel1 said:

dignin said:

The Canadian government has been warned if we retaliate the US will hit us harder.

Chin up fellow canucks. Fuck them and let's dig in.

You guys need to fight this. Much of America we’ll be behind Canada

Amen!

"We could be fighting together

Instead of fighting ourselves"

'Great React, Respond quote

Original_Shifty

We talked about the idea of selling our tix to the Raleigh and Nashville shows this morning but we've decided why let the orange maniac ruin our fun.

However, this may be the last time in the next 4 years we'll be setting foot across the border. Which is a shame because we kinda dig Washington State and Oregon. Great camping and great beer.

mrussel1

Original_Shifty said:

We talked about the idea of selling our tix to the Raleigh and Nashville shows this morning but we've decided why let the orange maniac ruin our fun.

However, this may be the last time in the next 4 years we'll be setting foot across the border. Which is a shame because we kinda dig Washington State and Oregon. Great camping and great beer.

I encourage you not to spend your money here.  Stupid Americans need to pay for their stupid choices.  

jhager79

brianlux said:

jhager79 said:

brianlux said:

dignin said:

The Canadian government has been warned if we retaliate the US will hit us harder.

Chin up fellow canucks. Fuck them and let's dig in.

So, does that mean "fuck you" to all of us in the U.S., even if we are strongly against the tariffs, even if, as I just did above, acknowledge our feeling friendly toward Canada and Canadians, even if we abhor what is being done.  Great, just a big "fuck you" to all of us?  Jesus Christ, man.  Fuck that.

Absolutely, it’s time we start seeing other people. We won’t be visiting you and would appreciate it if you didn’t visit us.

WTF is the matter with you?  Don't you see that a lot of us hate what is happening and voted against it?  You're grinding the wrong fucking axe.

I live in Southwestern Ontario in between a Toyota plant and a GM  plant along with various agri-food plants and other industries tied to manufacturing. The people who work in these plants are my family, friends, neighbours, fellow church members. They shop at the grocery store I work at, I coach their kids during the baseball season and my wife works with their special needs kids at school. These are also the people who will be hit hardest once the tariffs go into effect, so while I appreciate that you along with others are against what’s happening it won’t help with paying bills and putting food on their tables. This all feels unnecessary and seems like it will damage the relationship between Canada and the US beyond repair.

HughFreakingDillon

jhager79 said:

brianlux said:

jhager79 said:

brianlux said:

dignin said:

The Canadian government has been warned if we retaliate the US will hit us harder.

Chin up fellow canucks. Fuck them and let's dig in.

So, does that mean "fuck you" to all of us in the U.S., even if we are strongly against the tariffs, even if, as I just did above, acknowledge our feeling friendly toward Canada and Canadians, even if we abhor what is being done.  Great, just a big "fuck you" to all of us?  Jesus Christ, man.  Fuck that.

Absolutely, it’s time we start seeing other people. We won’t be visiting you and would appreciate it if you didn’t visit us.

WTF is the matter with you?  Don't you see that a lot of us hate what is happening and voted against it?  You're grinding the wrong fucking axe.

I live in Southwestern Ontario in between a Toyota plant and a GM  plant along with various agri-food plants and other industries tied to manufacturing. The people who work in these plants are my family, friends, neighbours, fellow church members. They shop at the grocery store I work at, I coach their kids during the baseball season and my wife works with their special needs kids at school. These are also the people who will be hit hardest once the tariffs go into effect, so while I appreciate that you along with others are against what’s happening it won’t help with paying bills and putting food on their tables. This all feels unnecessary and seems like it will damage the relationship between Canada and the US beyond repair.

it is odd, however, that you think you speak for all of us, not to mention the absurdity of telling americans to stay home (what does that have to do with the president?). "we won't be visiting you and would appreciate it if you didn't visit us". Speak for yourself. Friendly americans are welcome on this side of the border any time they wish. 

HughFreakingDillon

full list of canadian tariffs on american imports can be found here:

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2025/02/list-of-products-from-the-united-states-subject-to-25-per-cent-tariffs-effective-february-4-2025.html

HughFreakingDillon

Trump on truth social this morning:

“THIS WILL BE THE GOLDEN AGE OF AMERICA! WILL THERE BE SOME PAIN? YES, MAYBE (AND MAYBE NOT!),” Trump wrote on Truth Social

brianlux

This is all I have to say about this:

I have a great deal of respect for Canada.  Some of my favorite people are Canadian (both those I know, and those I am a fan of but do not personally know.)  I have fond memories of my visits to Canada, especially when I lived close to Canada for a few years in New York and few years in the state of Washington.  I hope to see your country again some day, but only if welcomed.

And most importantly, I am sorry we (the U.S. as a whole) fucked things up between us, but I am not the enemy and I am not your enemy. 

DE4173

HughFreakingDillon said:

full list of canadian tariffs on american imports can be found here:

https://www.canada.ca/en/department-finance/news/2025/02/list-of-products-from-the-united-states-subject-to-25-per-cent-tariffs-effective-february-4-2025.html

Thank you, Sir! Much appreciated! 🫡

HughFreakingDillon

brianlux said:

This is all I have to say about this:

I have a great deal of respect for Canada.  Some of my favorite people are Canadian (both those I know, and those I am a fan of but do not personally know.)  I have fond memories of my visits to Canada, especially when I lived close to Canada for a few years in New York and few years in the state of Washington.  I hope to see your country again some day, but only if welcomed.

And most importantly, I am sorry we (the U.S. as a whole) fucked things up between us, but I am not the enemy and I am not your enemy. 

meh. don't let a few outliers spoil it, brian. 99.99999999% of canadians likely do not share that view. 

ekwipt

I’m not going to let divisive politics and fear mongering win. I love America and plan to visit three states over the next three months. Best thing we can do during troubling times is love, respect and support each other. Show the bad apples that hate will never win 💪 

jhager79

brianlux said:

This is all I have to say about this:

I have a great deal of respect for Canada.  Some of my favorite people are Canadian (both those I know, and those I am a fan of but do not personally know.)  I have fond memories of my visits to Canada, especially when I lived close to Canada for a few years in New York and few years in the state of Washington.  I hope to see your country again some day, but only if welcomed.

And most importantly, I am sorry we (the U.S. as a whole) fucked things up between us, but I am not the enemy and I am not your enemy. 

My apologies for coming across as salty or vindictive, it’s from genuine hurt. In a normal year we visit the United States on average once a month, it’s where we spend our vacations, visit friends and family. I’ve actually seen more of your country than my own, visiting Michigan was the thing I missed most about the border shutdown during Covid. This is also coming from a Canadian who up until it was stolen from my yard flew an American flag along with my Canadian flag in front of my house. Come to Ontario and the coffee is on me.

Zod

Original_Shifty said:

We talked about the idea of selling our tix to the Raleigh and Nashville shows this morning but we've decided why let the orange maniac ruin our fun.

However, this may be the last time in the next 4 years we'll be setting foot across the border. Which is a shame because we kinda dig Washington State and Oregon. Great camping and great beer.

We have a trip planned to Houston, TX in June to visit friends and see Metallica.  We were also going to do a road trip from there to visit New Orleans.  Right now it doesn't feel right to me to go America.  Especially that far south.  I dunno.. I'll give it time to see if the situation improves.  No idea what the president is up to or what he really wants, or if he just wanted the revenue from tariff's.  It's hard to figure out.  We'll give it some to see how the situation unfolds, but if go into a recession because of massive lay offs and it starts getting ugly.  I don't think I want to go.   Definitely not for the next 4 years.  Who knows though.   This presidency is unlike the first one.  Last time there were people (many of who got fired) that tried to say no.  Now it seems there's no one.  So what happens when he tries to hang on for a 3rd term, something goes to the Supreme Court he stacked, and he gets another term :(

Also the way this all orchestrated is downright efficient and scary, not entirely characteristic of someone near 80 years old.