Canadian Politics Redux

Meltdown99

Seeing how sensitive you were in the soccer thread … I doubt you would  last a week in that industry in 2022…

Now produce evidence that illegal blockades don’t have an impact.

and you don’t give a shit about First Nation rights…you just use 155 years of confederation as an poor excuse to make argument…

1ThoughtKnown

I will add, one of my grandfathers was a rancher and farmer for his entire life. He and a fellow homesteader steered a hundred head of cattle from Calgary to Barrhead when there was one bridge in Edmonton to a parcel of land received from the government. 

My other grandfather owned an orchard in the Okanagan. 

Both were conservatives. Neither one would be supportive of these protests, that I can guarantee. New conservatism would not have been up their alley. I remember my GF who owned the orchard being vehemently opposed to the Reform Party calling them a bunch of wingnuts in the 90s  It surprised me and made me question my opinion on the whole movement quickly, because if he was wise enough to know something I didn’t, I best listen. 

Of course, 10 years in Ft McMurray surrounded by and taking in the constant barrage of new
conservatism caused me to buy into it for a while. It’s dangerous to be all in on political ideology folks. 

Meltdown99

And I have brother in law who is indigenous…he also drove truck and supports these truckers.  Is he a racist?  

My grandfather participated in the ford strikes in the 50s and violence occurred…ask an auto worker if those violent strikes paid off…considering anyone associated in the supply chain to the assembly plant now make, not only liveable wages but many far out earn those with their fancy degrees…and you like those pussy politicians have the nerve to denigrate an entire group because of a few bad apples…your laughable.  Another not capable of backing up your bs…

DarthMaeglin

So a rally is planned in front of Toronto General Hospital, let’s see how quickly the police enforce the law about no protests at health care facilities.

My guess is nothing will be done because these are health care worker supporters.

Meltdown99

And when it comes to the vaccine…their body their choice.  How many fattys here?  Who in two years never lifted a finger to lose weight, excercise and eat healthy…which by doing gives you a better chance… lol. Yet they come on here giving medical advice…lmfao.

1ThoughtKnown

Meltdown99 said:

And I have brother in law who is indigenous…he also drove truck and supports these truckers.  Is he a racist?  

My grandfather participated in the ford strikes in the 50s and violence occurred…ask an auto worker if those violent strikes paid off…considering anyone associated in the supply chain to the assembly plant now make, not only liveable wages but many far out earn those with their fancy degrees…and you like those pussy politicians have the nerve to denigrate an entire group because of a few bad apples…your laughable.  Another not capable of backing up your bs…

I never called anyone a racist. I called it hypocrisy.  
You have no problem with civil unrest for a supportable cause. Fair enough, but to be consistent you would also have to support civil unrest for the BLM movement (they have tried peacefully (for the most part) for over 60 years, or the indigenous folks concerned about the planet, or any other movement people in a free country believe is “worth” civil unrest. 

I also never said I “liked the politicians”. Frankly, I think Justin Trudeau is the worst Prime Minister of my lifetime. His lack of leadership in this is also rather astounding. As I said earlier, I support the right to protest (you quite unsurprisingly glossed over that).  I do not support blocking border crossings or highway intersections or being disruptive to law abiding citizens.

Fighting for freedom while taking freedom away from others is mind boggling. Hats off to those peacefully protesting.

The funny thing is, you just consistently want to argue… and not engage in meaningful dialogue. I’m not taking a stand as a “left winger”. I have voted for almost any legitimate political party you can think of. I want the pandemic restrictions to go away as much as the next person,
but I cannot support this kind of civil unrest, which is once again… hypocritical. 

1ThoughtKnown

Well… that’s all for me folks. Old Meltdown here hasn’t changed. I am not upset… kind of hope this individual gets the help they need… maybe do some yoga… find that inner zen. 

Going through life so angry is no way to live. I’ll never forget the first time I performed yoga about two years ago and was introduced to this thing called savasana. A pose where you lie on the ground and release all the tension in your body, including your jaw and face. 

The first time I performed this pose, tears began to roll down my cheeks, uncontrollably.  It was as if this was what my body and brain needed…. and needed it for a while. Deep breaths and total relaxation, just letting it all go. 

I began to forgive myself and like myself. All of that anger is now gone and I look at the entire world with a focus and clarity I have never had before. 

Be kind to each other, we can get through this. 

Meltdown99

And bringing up the evils of confederation to make your argument against a diverse group of protestors, protesting a government that feel the government has gone to far is weak…very weak.

As for indigenous leaders…well they are politicians and like all politicians they are crooked and don’t like accountability…it’s no secret that their leaders have been lining their pockets for decades along with a few weasels who slithered their way into these band offices and are lining their pockets all the while the people they proclaim to care for continue to suffer in poverty…these weasels know who they are…band members know who…and remember Harper passed legislation that was intended to hold those reserve’s accountable that your racist prime minister scrapped.

The big difference between you and me is I despise our colonial government and call them out every chance I can.  I will always stand with the working class over government over reach…

Zod

Why do you guys interact with meltdown, it's like giving crack to a troll.  Just put him on ignore and you can't see his/her/their posts.   The thread is so much better with his/her/their posts all blanked out

1ThoughtKnown

Zod said:

Why do you guys interact with meltdown, it's like giving crack to a troll.  Just put him on ignore and you can't see his/her/their posts.   The thread is so much better with his/her/their posts all blanked out

My bad. Hadn’t been around here is a long time. Apologize for the enabling. 

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/therealkeean/status/1489993724318785538?s=21

A Trudeau supporter cowering behind a mask…

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/thehunterchef/status/1490035852772352000?s=21

erebus

“ Well… that’s all for me folks. Old Meltdown here hasn’t changed. I am not upset… kind of hope this individual gets the help they need… maybe do some yoga… find that inner zen. ”

Don’t let people take away your voice. Everyone can voice their opinion. Often the vocal minority is the loudest. They can spew their hatred, nobody has to buy in.

Bitterness only consumes the vessel that contains it

jerparker20

Meltdown99 said:

https://twitter.com/therealkeean/status/1489993724318785538?s=21

A Trudeau supporter cowering behind a mask…

What’s the problem? Someone hit a protestor with their car? Maybe the protestor shouldn’t have been in the street. It doesn’t look like they were in a crosswalk either. Perfectly legal in some places in the US (Oklahoma and Florida). Or is the problem the fact this happened to someone on your “side” of the protest?

DarthMaeglin

erebus said:

“ Well… that’s all for me folks. Old Meltdown here hasn’t changed. I am not upset… kind of hope this individual gets the help they need… maybe do some yoga… find that inner zen. ”

Don’t let people take away your voice. Everyone can voice their opinion. Often the vocal minority is the loudest. They can spew their hatred, nobody has to buy in.

Bitterness only consumes the vessel that contains it

I second this, though if they feel the need to step away from posting in this thread (or even in general), I get that too.

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/alicia_smith19/status/1490064800138907650?s=21

Yup…

Meltdown99

You are all free to continue mandating and masking yourselves…no judgement. But I don care about yours fears…time to move on with life…the world is dropping mandates, since when did Canada have so many pussies?

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/natashafatah/status/1489949255775268869?s=21

dignin

Fucking degenerates are now protesting inside schools.

https://player.vimeo.com/video/673879476

dignin

Anyone who does this and supports this is a grade A asshole. The lowest of life forms.