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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,769
    edited March 16
    Can someone help make this make sense to me? This is honestly baffling to me, this jet has now been chosen twice and further delays will only put our own pilots at risk, both from degrading equipment as well as in any combat against the enemy.

    Where a large part of Trump’s rhetoric centring around continental defence this would open us up to more criticism. I also don’t see opportunities to align with the US in terms of equipment as a bad thing, if anything it’s the opposite. I’m partly trying to look beyond the next four years here.

     I like to think I’d be equally baffled by a government of any stripe revisiting this decision for a third time.

    https://torontosun.com/news/national/carney-orders-review-of-f-35-fighter-jet-purchase-from-u-s-s-lockheed-martin

    Edit: The CBC version elaborates further on the government’s potential plans and revisiting the decision gets even worse in my opinion.

    We’re committed for 16 of 88 jets, and it’s being looked at only taking the 16 and filling out the fleet with other jets. Hopefully the air force asks for consistency in its equipment and stresses the duplication of support that would be required.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/f35-blair-trump-1.7484477
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,398
    edited March 16
    I am pro- any and all reviews of current/upcoming contracts with the US, especially where defence is the topic. It would be irresponsible of any government NOT to look at all available options with true allies, especially where we acquire and maintain control of maintenance and upgrades. 

    I understand the potential risks the added training brings. But with trump, I think the potential risks are even higher. 
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  • DarthMaeglinDarthMaeglin Toronto Posts: 2,769
    edited March 16
    I am pro- any and all reviews of current/upcoming contracts with the US, especially where defence is the topic. It would be irresponsible of any government NOT to look at all available options with true allies, especially where we acquire and maintain control of maintenance and upgrades. 

    I understand the potential risks the added training brings. But with trump, I think the potential risks are even higher. 
    Yeah, that’s more or less the rationale I see at play here. Don’t necessarily agree with it, but it does make a certain amount of sense.

    Edit: I should be clearer, reviewing contracts and such as a whole-of-government approach does make sense in the current climate, but the specific case of the F-35s should be left alone in my opinion.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 42,517
    BREAKING: Canada just hit the reset button. Mark Carney, the new Prime Minister, has officially told Trump, “we’re done with America.” The US is about to find out what it means to lose a real ally.

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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,831
    The link you posted doesn't show that Carney said that I guess he did somewhere sometime today? I thought we were at the he's looking forward to talking to Trump stage still
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  • SpunkieSpunkie i come from downtown. Posts: 6,831
    mickeyrat said:
    BREAKING: Canada just hit the reset button. Mark Carney, the new Prime Minister, has officially told Trump, “we’re done with America.” The US is about to find out what it means to lose a real ally.

    I think this is misinformation I can't find it anywhere
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    I could swear he's trying to talk to me 
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