Canadian Politics Redux

DE4173

HughFreakingDillon

DarthMaeglin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

DarthMaeglin said:

PJ_Soul said:

DarthMaeglin said:

Original_Shifty said:

I don't know the context of that pic so I can't comment on it. I can post pics too of him being dignified and caring. Not sure of your point.

It was him following the tradition of taking his seat from the House of Commons, something all MPs apparently do. But most aren’t photographed looking directly into the camera with such a childish display.

For him, in that moment it was just a room, not the House of Commons of the Canadian Parliament, I get it.

This is some pretty crazy bias showing, lol. Your reaction to that photo is extremely unreasonable. The tradition is not a deadpan one. I would say that when parliament has a better sense of humour than you do about something, it's time to reflect a little bit.

I love how every criticism simply shows my bias and has zero merit, and Justin Trudeau’s every action is justified or excused. I think that might show some crazy bias as well.

no, honestly, you have to look at the specific criticism. I had to to the same during trump's first term. I admittedly had pretty strong TDS at that time, then I started to ask myself if Obama/any other dem did that, would it bother me. The answer was usually yes, but sometimes no. I'm guessing you wouldn't care if Harper had done this. It would have "shown his lighter side". 

I absolutely would have cared if Harper had done this. Believe it or not it’s not always about Justin except insofar as he makes it about himself. I wouldn’t be surprised if he did it exactly to draw a reaction because in that moment, in his head, it was just a room.

One of the only things I can give Dear Justin credit for is learning to keep his shirt on when he goes jogging, but I’m the asshole for considering that an embarrassment and beneath the office of the Prime Minister of Canada, I know.

Jogging shirtless is beneath the office of PM? What about if he goes swimming? 

Not sure why you’d care about a funny face while he’s (or anyone) engaging in a silly tradition as the outgoing PM. 

I find your standards for elected officials almost akin to the stuffiness of the royal family. Just doesn’t jive in today’s society. 

DE4173

Yeah, that's crazy. Dude's in shape 

DarthMaeglin

Well the bar of expectations has been greatly lowered under the thankfully-departed Justin. Now the work of recovery begins.

Just remember how much you and others have chosen to lower that bar.

Fuck respecting tradition and solemnity, got it. Why have a dress code for the House while we’re at it, or is that too far, lol?

HughFreakingDillon

Um, we didn’t lower any bar. We just think the bar is fine where it is. Like I said, I wouldn’t have given a shit if Harper had smiled in the same manner. Or PP when he’s done. It’s quite far from some fall from grace you’re depicting. If the outrage is limited to a small subset of people, their idea of the bar is likely what is skewed, not ours. 

mrussel1

This is all very fascinating

DE4173

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HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

This is all very fascinating

Miss the days when a leader smiling was scandalous? 😂 

Spunkie

... And to answer your question @Spiritual_Chaos.

The Germans "have got our back".

brianlux

Greeting to all my Canadian friends here.  

I would be very OK if you adopted us Californians as well as my friends and family in the states of Oregon, Washington, and Alaska (The Alaska that is moving away from Palin's Alaska).  On the other hand, if said, "No way!", I would understand.  

Stay strong, Canada.

HughFreakingDillon

All the sane blue states are welcome! No swing or red states.  No Gilead needed! 😂 

DarthMaeglin

HughFreakingDillon said:

Um, we didn’t lower any bar. We just think the bar is fine where it is. Like I said, I wouldn’t have given a shit if Harper had smiled in the same manner. Or PP when he’s done. It’s quite far from some fall from grace you’re depicting. If the outrage is limited to a small subset of people, their idea of the bar is likely what is skewed, not ours. 

If we’re talking his fall from grace that happened long ago, and it’s cute that you’re labelling me as outraged. I stopped being outraged at him a while ago, just didn’t stop pointing out his failings.

 I realize I’m in the minority here but in my lifetime he has been the most divisive in my opinion though I’m not old enough to remember his father’s tenure. He has stoked anti-conservative sentiments at every opportunity and has pissed on the West’s resources.

HughFreakingDillon

I said outrage because I feel like your reaction is out of step from the action. 

Not divisive. Fights for liberal values. All he’s been doing is fighting back against the “anti-woke” “liberalism is a disease” nonsense. Or he could be the limp idiots holding up ping pong paddles in the states. I’d take him over those cowards any day. 

DarthMaeglin

HughFreakingDillon said:

I said outrage because I feel like your reaction is out of step from the action. 

Not divisive. Fights for liberal values. All he’s been doing is fighting back against the “anti-woke” “liberalism is a disease” nonsense. Or he could be the limp idiots holding up ping pong paddles in the states. I’d take him over those cowards any day. 

What has my reaction been? I posted the picture with my thoughts and from that point have only defended myself and my views against criticisms and dismissals. That’s not outrage, sorry, but you like to read A LOT into my posts in order to put down my point of view.

So it seems that what was a rhetorical is now a serious question: why bother with such traditions like a dress code for both politicians and visitors to our houses of government?

This question isn’t just for Hugh.