Canadian Politics Redux

HughFreakingDillon

post millenial? Trudeau is Gen X. and as a fellow Gen Xer, I guess I'll have to say this till I'm blue in the face: I DIDN'T KNOW BLACKFACE WAS A PROBLEM EITHER. I have spoken to many people about this, and some say they knew, many others also didn't. 

Zod

I guess for me, it's the I couldn't give 2 craps about the SNC Lavalin thing.  They bribed officials in a 3rd world country?  I kind of thought that's how you do business... lol.. didn't really big me they tried to keep it on the down lo..

The We thing though.... lol.. Funding a private organization to the tune of 1b that pays and has relations with your immediate family.. lol.

he just stumbles into these weird, stupid things.... lol.

Meltdown99

Let’s get this right

4th wave starting
BC fires
Afghan crisis

and Mr blackface the misogynist called an election.  What a fucking narcissist.

Vote the asshole out…

Zod

Meltdown99 said:

Let’s get this right

4th wave starting
BC fires
Afghan crisis

and Mr blackface the misogynist called an election.  What a fucking narcissist.

Vote the asshole out…

I don't think it really matters.  The other choices aren't great either.   lol.

dignin

ABC again this year.

DarthMaeglin

HughFreakingDillon said:

post millenial? Trudeau is Gen X. and as a fellow Gen Xer, I guess I'll have to say this till I'm blue in the face: I DIDN'T KNOW BLACKFACE WAS A PROBLEM EITHER. I have spoken to many people about this, and some say they knew, many others also didn't. 

Apparently I need to further explain, even though the emPHAsis was on the admitted coverup and blackface not really being the point of my post.

Hugh, I know nothing of your (or anyone else here’s) education and maybe vague ideas of people’s interests, hence I don’t blame anyone for not being aware of blackface’s offence 20 years ago. Personally, I knew because I enjoyed Shakespeare outside of the bit we learned in high school and it was through Othello (I believe) that I learned about how the practice had become at best questionable with it’s historical connotations. This was in the mid- to late-90s and it’s not like I studied (I presume) and taught drama (however briefly) and Trudeau’s last (known) incident was as a grown man in a position of authority.

As far as his high school incidents I do question where the adults were (although they may not have wanted to say no to PET’s kid).

By his own admission at some point he recognized it was wrong (or at least that it would look bad) and then proceeded to begin actively hiding it from everyone it seems, his party, the general public. I wonder how far the coverup went and I think that’s a valid question. Letting it be an issue for 2-3 days then dropping it (while the CPC had to daily reiterate that the abortion and same sex debates were settled) wasn’t enough. This speaks to his integrity as well as his cluelessness/lack of judgment which should dog him as long as he’s in politics.

Don’t forget, the Globe & Mail were liars until he couldn’t deny it. It’s a pattern and one of many reasons why he has come to represent everything wrong with politics. A narcissistic egomaniac who vilifies his opponents while claiming persecution, doesn’t respect the rule of law and will do his damndest to avoid any and all accountability. Sound familiar?

I’d left my previous post not as an indictment of anyone but myself and an example of how I had a problem. Unfortunately just as I acknowledged the problem and started working on it, Trudeau goes and calls an election meaning he’ll be front and centre daily on any Canadian newscast I watch.

So to all who were offended by my previous post I apologize and I hope my clarification here satisfies. I really hadn’t intended on returning to this thread for a bit to be honest so that I wouldn’t go too far.

HughFreakingDillon

why would anyone be offended by that post? I wasn't, I just think this issue is dead. but his haters keep harping on it. 

did he do it while in office: nope
was it illegal? nope
was it poor judgement? yes, but only if he knew the history of it. and let's be clear here: just because you or anyone knew about it, is no proof he did. 

for the record, I don't know what I'm going to do this time around. I voted for JT both times (I was going to vote Jagmeet last time, but he turned me off during the debates), I don't know if I can a third time, but not because of some stupid distraction like blackface. because he has failed on many fronts policy-wise. 

I don't trust the NDP after the fiscal/infrastructural disaster they were in my province. And I'll never vote O'Toole. Like, EH-VER. I've voted con in the past, but the last two clowns they put up: no chance. 

Meltdown99

Meltdown99

Let’s turn this she session into a she recovery…

lmfao

the most division pm ever…

HughFreakingDillon

the most "division" pm ever? 

vowing to bring women back to the workforce since they were disproportionately affected during the pandemic is divisive?

Meltdown99

Progressive Conservatives will form next Nova Scotia government

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/election-campaign-liberals-ndp-pc-1.6144162


Good.  

Zod

Meltdown99 said:

Progressive Conservatives will form next Nova Scotia government

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/election-campaign-liberals-ndp-pc-1.6144162


Good.  

lol..read about the first half the article about how they pretty much won on a campaign focused on health care.   Not sure anyone can actually fix that one.

Meltdown99

People wait up to 3 hours for an ambulance in NS.  They better fix that…

Meltdown99

Watching the results roll in from Nova Scotia…

how come shithead keeps bringing up abortion?  Does he want to re-open the abortion debate?  What a divisive nimrod.

Meltdown99

You gotta love the shit for brain PM.  He rejects Saskatchewan’s plan for carbon tax which is identical to NB.

Nimrod is the most divisive PM ever.

Send this clown back to being a ski instructor…

HughFreakingDillon

Zod

Meltdown99 said:

People wait up to 3 hours for an ambulance in NS.  They better fix that…

I was more or less disparaging it, because it's a problem across the whole country.   Here in BC you can't get a GP, the Walking Clinics are overrun.  If you don't show up before it opens and get in line, you're probably not going to see a Doctor that day.   The only real thing people can do is to to emergency at the hospital and spend 5 hours trying to see a Doctor.   The only other option is to use one of the various apps that let you consult a Doctor via videochat (which can work amazingly well for things like renewing a prescription) but other than health care is pretty rough here.

I'm not sure this is something fixable.  It probably needs a few things.  The first is that many Doctor's only want to be Doctor's.  GP's here have to run their own clinic.  People going to med school don't want to deal with that.  Their choosing careers where they get a salary and benefits and don't have to run their own business.  When you factor all the expenses of running a business you make more choosing a career that pays a salary with benefits.  I think if the government want to solve the Doctor issue, they would need create their own government run clinics and change how they pay.  All of which would cost the government more money.   Money they probably don't have to spend.   Ergo I doubt any goverment in our country is going to figure that one out.

We've had massive immigration the past 15 or 20 years, but we haven't scaled up the Doctors with it, so there's an overall Doctor shortage.

It's only going to get worse.  The oldest boomers are only just getting to the age where they need a lot more health car, but it's got a 20 year tail on it.  As the population hump ages into health care it's going to get worse and worse :(  No matter what the government does, I'm not sure they'll be able to keep up with it.   IE any thing they do to try and change it probably won't keep pace with the demand :(

HughFreakingDillon

Health Care. Climate. Small Business Pandemic recovery. that's it. that's all I care about right now. 

Meltdown99

Zod said:

Meltdown99 said:

People wait up to 3 hours for an ambulance in NS.  They better fix that…

I was more or less disparaging it, because it's a problem across the whole country.   Here in BC you can't get a GP, the Walking Clinics are overrun.  If you don't show up before it opens and get in line, you're probably not going to see a Doctor that day.   The only real thing people can do is to to emergency at the hospital and spend 5 hours trying to see a Doctor.   The only other option is to use one of the various apps that let you consult a Doctor via videochat (which can work amazingly well for things like renewing a prescription) but other than health care is pretty rough here.

I'm not sure this is something fixable.  It probably needs a few things.  The first is that many Doctor's only want to be Doctor's.  GP's here have to run their own clinic.  People going to med school don't want to deal with that.  Their choosing careers where they get a salary and benefits and don't have to run their own business.  When you factor all the expenses of running a business you make more choosing a career that pays a salary with benefits.  I think if the government want to solve the Doctor issue, they would need create their own government run clinics and change how they pay.  All of which would cost the government more money.   Money they probably don't have to spend.   Ergo I doubt any goverment in our country is going to figure that one out.

We've had massive immigration the past 15 or 20 years, but we haven't scaled up the Doctors with it, so there's an overall Doctor shortage.

It's only going to get worse.  The oldest boomers are only just getting to the age where they need a lot more health car, but it's got a 20 year tail on it.  As the population hump ages into health care it's going to get worse and worse :(  No matter what the government does, I'm not sure they'll be able to keep up with it.   IE any thing they do to try and change it probably won't keep pace with the demand :(

Wow.  I did not realize healthcare was that bad in BC.  The problem is that healthcare is chronically underfunded…

Remember when healthcare came into existence the feds contributed .35 cents of healthcare dollar, now it’s down to .22 cents.  Currently the liberals (taxpayers) are borrowing or plan to borrow up to 127 billion to pay for daycare and child benefit welfare…lmfao…yet these nimrods have no money for healthcare.

why the fuck should my senior dad and I and other taxpayers fund your lifestyle choices.  If you can’t afford kids, don’t have them…

the only people that should get childcare help is the poor and working poor.  

And if Trudeau really cared about the environment then I would think encouraging people to breed and bringing in refugees that make breeding an Olympic sport…

As far as the feds go when it comes to healthcare, it’s a fuck you.

and those provinces that sign onto that daycare bs will see their healthcare get worse…

they’ve just signed up for another program the feds will bail on…just like healthcare.

you’ll now have 2 huge social programs that will be underfunded…

mickeyrat

breeding as an olympic sport.

hmmm.

further evidence the stereotype is bullshit. nice.