^^^ It just seems like there is enormous support to legalize it from the "potheads" and recreational users alike. There are a lot of people who view it like a cigarette and with attitudes like we will start to see an increase of it in the workplace or at least advocating for it because "hey, whats the big deal it's only a joint" I would tend to think people smoke until high and then stop- which leaves you impaired. Unlike with a cigarette you just need that nicotine until the next nic fit. - You're not impaired before, during or after smoking one could argue. Yet smoking is far more dangerous - obviously. So this law that is coming to legalize it will only increase use I feel.
Well as you say, it's safer than cigarettes, since weed isn't addictive, isn't packed with dangerous chemicals, and is smoked is a MUCH smaller quantity (yes, even by so-called potheads). But anyway, you have absolutely no reason to think that being high at work will suddenly become acceptable (any more than it is now). That's ridiculous. Of course that wouldn't happen. And who cares if more adults decide to use it if it's legal? Great. Good. More people will give it a try. More tax revenue. And I bet some will actually replace booze with weed at times, which is a much healthier and safer option. How are you determining who a "pothead" is?? What kind of completely subjective criteria have you made up for what makes someone a pothead and how are you evaluating people in order to assign that label to them?
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
^^^ It just seems like there is enormous support to legalize it from the "potheads" and recreational users alike. There are a lot of people who view it like a cigarette and with attitudes like we will start to see an increase of it in the workplace or at least advocating for it because "hey, whats the big deal it's only a joint" I would tend to think people smoke until high and then stop- which leaves you impaired. Unlike with a cigarette you just need that nicotine until the next nic fit. - You're not impaired before, during or after smoking one could argue. Yet smoking is far more dangerous - obviously. So this law that is coming to legalize it will only increase use I feel.
Part of the reason you confuse yourself on this issue is that you start with some strange premises (like people thinking pot is the same as smoking cigarettes & believing that use = abuse to name a couple). But just in case you aren't aware, there are places where it has been legalized. You need only look to those places to see the ramifications and effects of legalization. Employers still have the ability to dictate policy and conditions of employment. Just as they can take action if someone shows up to work impaired due to alcohol, the can do the same with pot. Employers can still drug test and deny employment or terminate employment based on those results. Pot can and will still be illegal for purchase by minors. The big difference is that ordinary people will no longer be considered criminals for recreationally using a substance which is safer than tobacco, alcohol, prescription opiates and other things that fine, upstanding people use every day.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Yeah, it's not like people are going to forget that pot gets you high, lol. If that were true, people would view alcohol the same way they view chocolate milk. Hey, whatever. They're both liquids that you drink, right? So it's okay to drink whiskey at work!
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
^^^ It just seems like there is enormous support to legalize it from the "potheads" and recreational users alike. There are a lot of people who view it like a cigarette and with attitudes like we will start to see an increase of it in the workplace or at least advocating for it because "hey, whats the big deal it's only a joint" I would tend to think people smoke until high and then stop- which leaves you impaired. Unlike with a cigarette you just need that nicotine until the next nic fit. - You're not impaired before, during or after smoking one could argue. Yet smoking is far more dangerous - obviously. So this law that is coming to legalize it will only increase use I feel.
Actually I view it as far safer than cigarettes and alcohol ... You can have a blunt before bed and will not crave another unless there is a medical reason ... I know many who take weed just before bed to help with anxiety and sleep issues ... And that's the only time they really consume it ...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Obvious legalizing it might increase use ... I kind of think that a good thing ... I've often said if everyone just chilled at night and smoked a fatty the world would be a better place.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
^^^ It just seems like there is enormous support to legalize it from the "potheads" and recreational users alike. There are a lot of people who view it like a cigarette and with attitudes like we will start to see an increase of it in the workplace or at least advocating for it because "hey, whats the big deal it's only a joint" I would tend to think people smoke until high and then stop- which leaves you impaired. Unlike with a cigarette you just need that nicotine until the next nic fit. - You're not impaired before, during or after smoking one could argue. Yet smoking is far more dangerous - obviously. So this law that is coming to legalize it will only increase use I feel.
Actually I view it as far safer than cigarettes and alcohol ... You can have a blunt before bed and will not crave another unless there is a medical reason ... I know many who take weed just before bed to help with anxiety and sleep issues ... And that's the only time they really consume it ...
I am one of those people. I suffer from chronic insomnia, and while it's far from a cure, it definitely helps way more than anything else I've tried assuming I'm not basically overdosing on sleeping pills. I have a dispensary card. Before I was able to get that I had to fucking go meet a dealer on a street corner just to get something that helps me sleep without fucking me up.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
^^^ For medicinal purposes I support the legalization. Without getting into a giant debate with studies,facts, stats etc I feel that if it is legalized for everyday use we will become an even lazier entitled society. Production and general motivation will decrease. The liberal plan is anything but - there is no iota of anything to come just a blanket statement that is confusing and without direction. Wait a year? For what? They need to tell us something more than this.
Why not for recreational purposes too? People want to chill with wine or whatever, why not a nice bowl or three?
I've been smoking daily for a damn long time and while our weekends may be fairly lazy as we choose, neither my husband nor I feel / act entitled, we kick ass at work, and live a comfortable life.
If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done!
Yeah really. How come weed can't just be used like booze is. Don't you ever drink PJfan?? Wtf is the difference, besides weed being much safer in every possible way as well as cheaper?
I still think that even though it is claimed to be much safer in every possible way no one wants to have a business with stoned employees. It impairs like alcohol obviously but many people think it is like a cigarette, no harm done just a bad habit is all.
Well people don't generally go to work drunk. They're not going to go to work high either. Either one would be grounds for dismissal. So I'm not quite sure what your point is. And weed doesn't even make you hungover. BTW, you seem to have this funny idea that everyone who smokes weed recreationally is a "pothead". Does that mean you also think that everyone who drinks is an alcoholic or a drunk?
Not having a hangover, how nice is that ... Or getting some of the other alcohol related issues. Pot is safe and can be consumed in a variety of ways...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
I thought this was a snide remark at first and didn't get what your problem was, lol. But then I realised you're glad he didn't mention God and/or prayer. I think there are much more important things to think about in this case, but I suppose what he did say is certainly more inclusive of everyone for whom he meant to speak.
Very, very awful thing. Those poor hostages. I can't begin to imagine what it's been like for them all these months, or what it was like to know he was about to be beheaded. How insanely horrifying for the two hostages still alive.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
^^^ It just seems like there is enormous support to legalize it from the "potheads" and recreational users alike. There are a lot of people who view it like a cigarette and with attitudes like we will start to see an increase of it in the workplace or at least advocating for it because "hey, whats the big deal it's only a joint" I would tend to think people smoke until high and then stop- which leaves you impaired. Unlike with a cigarette you just need that nicotine until the next nic fit. - You're not impaired before, during or after smoking one could argue. Yet smoking is far more dangerous - obviously. So this law that is coming to legalize it will only increase use I feel.
Actually I view it as far safer than cigarettes and alcohol ... You can have a blunt before bed and will not crave another unless there is a medical reason ... I know many who take weed just before bed to help with anxiety and sleep issues ... And that's the only time they really consume it ...
I am one of those people. I suffer from chronic insomnia, and while it's far from a cure, it definitely helps way more than anything else I've tried assuming I'm not basically overdosing on sleeping pills. I have a dispensary card. Before I was able to get that I had to fucking go meet a dealer on a street corner just to get something that helps me sleep without fucking me up.
I to suffer from insomnia and nothing really worked ... My problem was I was using alcohol and the odd pill ... Did not like how I felt in the morning ... So I decided to give this a whirl ... It's not a perfect solution but my wife says I'm out like a light most times before she's in the room ... Where irs not perfect is sometimes I'm only out for about 4-5 hours, so sometimes I need to have a quickly then I'm usually fine, and as an added bonus it has helped with anxiety as well.
And I do not crave it during the day like people do with cigarettes ... And I'm a former smoker.
Glad to hear that you found a solution for your sleepless nights ... Nothing more frustrating than not being able to sleep and bouncing off the walls at 4am.
In BC you are ahead of the rest of the country ... I
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Oh no, it's not a solution for me either. Like you, it just helps. It's not a cure. I too struggle with staying asleep. I still suffer from a sleep disorder. Weed is simply the best aid amongst much worse options. I still have to deal with the issue, but weed definitely makes things better than they would be without it. And you're right, it totally helps with feelings of anxiety, which comes with lack of sleep.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Oh no, it's not a solution for me either. Like you, it just helps. It's not a cure. I too struggle with staying asleep. I still suffer from a sleep disorder. Weed is simply the best aid amongst much worse options. I still have to deal with the issue, but weed definitely makes things better than they would be without it. And you're right, it totally helps with feelings of anxiety, which comes with lack of sleep.
Agreed far safer solution to sleep disorders ... Good to hear it provides you some help.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
And for those peoples so horrified by the legalization of pot ... Many many people are popping opiates like candy ... Oh those are perfectly legal with a prescription, now look at the side effects to those and how many people become addicted to those nasty pills ...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Notley and Trudeau it is your time to shine. If Bush was lambasted for not getting to New Orleans fast enough, why isn't Trudeau getting flack for simply sitting in the House of Commons and begging Canadians to give money?
its only PR, but he should be in Alberta and visiting these evacuees all over the province in shelters and camps. Instead, he is in Ottawa getting interviwed like Fort Mcmurray NHLers Chris Phillips (his sister was evacuated) and Scottie Upshall. Just my opinion, but he should be in Alberta, NOW. Its a state of emergency for chrissakes.
He'll go, but dude, people are still inbthe midst of evcuating and the fire is still fucking raging like mad. Total chaos. That needs to settle down slightly, or else he waltzes in and steers focus away from a current, ongoing natural disaster. (Seriously, i bet if he had rushed there into the midst of the chaos you'd probably be accusing him of using it for political gain or something).
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
No I wouldn't. I am proud of how Notley is handling it. She is answering the questions, she is in the area, she iw WORKING on behalf of these people. If you were an evacuee in Lac la Biche combing through clothes and the PM walked in, wouldn't you feel better? That is his job. This is just my opinion, but I do not think there is anything more important in the country than this right now. He is the leader of the country.
Like I said (and I hate George Dubbya), Bush was lambasted for not showing up to New Orleans. How is Trudeau avoiding this same scrutiny? Its bullshit.
She is the Premier. Of course that's what she is doing.
Yes, it will be nice for the evacuees when Trudeau shows up. But as i already said, people are still being evacuated. Really, people aren't at the stage where you seem to think they are. They are simply not prepared for Trudeau to show up yet. When it is appropriate - when the chaos had settled a tiny bit, when all resources aren't needed for fighting the fire that is still raging, and the people coming from the north have been escorted to safety - he'll probably show up. No one expected Bush to wade into New Orleans and shake hands with the people as they waited in line to enter the stadium right in the middle of the floods. You aren't being very realistic. I'm sure Trudeau will go as soon as it is logistically possible. Right now i doubt they can even spare the security resources that he would require. There are more important things than Trudeau and a massive media frenzy that would surround him right at this moment.
Here is what he said, and i agree with him. If he turned up now focus would shift from the victims to him, and he knows it:
"Asked when he would be visiting Fort McMurray, Trudeau said he would do so in the coming weeks but that for now the best thing he could do was to stay out of the way and let emergency responders do their work.
"I think we're all aware that a prime minister showing up in Fort McMurray when firefighters are busy trying to contain a massive, raging wildfire is not a particularly helpful thing," he said.....
The prime minister said Goodale is meeting with provincial and territorial ministers responsible for emergency preparedness, to discuss how the two levels of government "can prepare for and better manage" tragedies such as the one in Fort McMurray."
CBC
Meanwhile, he's making sure that thousands and thousands of cots and other desperately needed supplies are being sent there on behalf of the federal government, discussing relief funds, etc. He's actually doing useful things that are more important than him wandering around with a media entourage.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
He'll go, but dude, people are still inbthe midst of evcuating and the fire is still fucking raging like mad. Total chaos. That needs to settle down slightly, or else he waltzes in and steers focus away from a current, ongoing natural disaster. (Seriously, i bet if he had rushed there into the midst of the chaos you'd probably be accusing him of using it for political gain or something).
I agree that Trudeau couldn't win in this situation with 1Thought regardless of what he did.
And although this type of event is seen by some as 'leadership'... placing a brand new helmet on his head, sporting some brand new steel toed boots and brandishing a glistening new Pulaski while kissing babies amongst the ashes isn't my idea of leadership.
^^^ Wow. The evacuees aren't fighting the fires. Go see the PEOPLE.
Does anyone read anymore?
I know.
I was saying that Trudeau appearing on the scene like GWB in the jet fighter pilot's garb would likely have irritated you. Wouldn't you have made some comment regarding him 'pouncing on the misfortunes of the Albertans' for a photo opportunity? He can't win with you no matter what he does.
That's a fair thing to say... given your obvious disdain for him... isn't it?
Edit: I'm not trying to rile you up, man. I'm just stating what I felt needed to be stated. I think the situation is horrific. If my home was burnt down and I was sleeping in my truck with my family in some parking lot... Trudeau's presence or absence would mean nothing to me.
Listen, you are making a bunch of assumptions here.
If you would have read what I said about Notley. You would realize everything you are saying is rubbish.
Once again, Bush got flack. Trudeau gets a pass. I notice when things are different and note it.
For a guy that habitually made reference to Trudeau playing it up for the cameras and smiling for the cameras... you'll have to excuse me for making assumptions.
This event isn't even over yet. I know you are eager, but how about we judge Trudeau once it is?
Once again, you continue to badger me about "giving the guys chance".
How does Bush get lambasted for not heading straight to New Orleans after Katrina and Trudeau get a pass for not visiting the evacuees? No one has given me an answer!
This has nothing to do with my opinion of Trudeau. It is an outside observation into the political arena.
Whether you or I think he should be there or not is irrelevant, the only people that's opinions matter would be the evacuees themselves. If I put myself in the position of an evacuee, and I am sleeping in a curling rink in Lac la Biche with my wife and two kids and the PM walks in and gives me personal reassurance that things will get back to normal, it makes my day. That he took the time to come and understand the plight would lift the spirits of people.
I would not accuse him of "photo-op" politics here. Notley is on TV everyday and I applauded her for her handling of a delicate situation so far.
Why does every event have to involve politics. What difference would it make if the PM showed up? Likely none, the PM might be more a hinderance than help at this stage ... he's doing whats he's suppose to do ... and that is provide federal assistance, he does not need to be in Alberta to do that. The way I see it is that the local officials evacuated 80000 people on short notice, got them to shelters ... it appears under the circumstances not much more could have be done.
The people of Fort Mac and all emergency workers should be proud ... with the exception of the traffic accident that had 2 fatalities everyone got out safely.
And no need to ever compare our response to a disaster to what has gone on in the states.
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Listen, you are making a bunch of assumptions here.
If you would have read what I said about Notley. You would realize everything you are saying is rubbish.
Once again, Bush got flack. Trudeau gets a pass. I notice when things are different and note it.
Who gives a shit what people said about Bush 11 years ago? Why are you harping on about that? In case you forgot, American were being whiny bitches about that, not Canadians. And in the end, what mattered was the people there getting HELP. Not the people there getting waved at by the idiot GW. The real story there that created all the rage was a terrible and very slow response by FEMA, not Bush's timing for flying around in a helicopter. Trudeau's decision is fine. Also, what his presence would bring is WAY different than what Bush would have brought with him. Trudeau creates media swarms right now, which was not even close to the case with Bush at that time. His presence right now would not at all helpful to a moving emergency. Get over it dude, no one cares because it's not meaningful to what actually matters right now. I'm personally happier with Trudeau working to provide aid and funding in this emergency, which he's doing. I don't give a shit where he's doing it from.
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With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Listen, you are making a bunch of assumptions here.
If you would have read what I said about Notley. You would realize everything you are saying is rubbish.
Once again, Bush got flack. Trudeau gets a pass. I notice when things are different and note it.
Who gives a shit what people said about Bush 11 years ago? Why are you harping on about that? In case you forgot, American were being whiny bitches about that, not Canadians. And in the end, what mattered was the people there getting HELP. Not the people there getting waved at by the idiot GW. The real story there that created all the rage was a terrible and very slow response by FEMA, not Bush's timing for flying around in a helicopter. Trudeau's decision is fine. Also, what his presence would bring is WAY different than what Bush would have brought with him. Trudeau creates media swarms right now, which was not even close to the case with Bush at that time. His presence right now would not at all helpful to a moving emergency. Get over it dude, no one cares because it's not meaningful to what actually matters right now. I'm personally happier with Trudeau working to provide aid and funding in this emergency, which he's doing. I don't give a shit where he's doing it from.
That is the sentiment of most people. Just wondering why.
So to recap you think Americans are "whiny bitches" and that Bush did not receive flack for not going to New Orleans Ina timely fashion from the Canadian media.
You are also fine with Trudeau's decision to not go to Fort Mac. I agree, I didn't want him anywhere near Fort Mac. Notley was doing a fine job.
I wanted him to visit the EVACUEES (for the seemingly hundredth time). They weren't in Fort Mac, in case you weren't paying attention. They were in a curling rink in Lac La Biche and centres in Edmonton and Calgary.
Since you consider yourself to be such a caring individual, I ask again, if you were in the Lac La Biche curling rink watching the news of your city's disaster, would it have not made your day and made you feel better to see the PM walk in? Maybe answer some questions, provide leadership.
You ask why I keep harping on an observation I made, question should be why do you keep defending him without ever commenting on the reasons I think he should have went? I don't want him to grab a hose and fight the fire, I want him to be the PM. Harper got flack for visiting the firefighters in Kelowna (rightfully so) when he should have just had a coffee with the evacuees.
And my oh my such hostility. I guess you just don't see the theatre of politics the same way I do. I am trained to examine things, and when I see something different I have to ask why. I must investigate
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How are you determining who a "pothead" is?? What kind of completely subjective criteria have you made up for what makes someone a pothead and how are you evaluating people in order to assign that label to them?
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Aside from the brutality and sadness of this tale it is refreshing to hear our leader not say "Our thoughts and prayers are with the family"
Instead the PMO said
The prime minister offered his condolences to the family and friends of Ridsdel.
Nice.
Very, very awful thing. Those poor hostages. I can't begin to imagine what it's been like for them all these months, or what it was like to know he was about to be beheaded. How insanely horrifying for the two hostages still alive.
And I do not crave it during the day like people do with cigarettes ... And I'm a former smoker.
Glad to hear that you found a solution for your sleepless nights ... Nothing more frustrating than not being able to sleep and bouncing off the walls at 4am.
In BC you are ahead of the rest of the country ...
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Notley and Trudeau it is your time to shine. If Bush was lambasted for not getting to New Orleans fast enough, why isn't Trudeau getting flack for simply sitting in the House of Commons and begging Canadians to give money?
its only PR, but he should be in Alberta and visiting these evacuees all over the province in shelters and camps. Instead, he is in Ottawa getting interviwed like Fort Mcmurray NHLers Chris Phillips (his sister was evacuated) and Scottie Upshall.
Just my opinion, but he should be in Alberta, NOW. Its a state of emergency for chrissakes.
No I wouldn't. I am proud of how Notley is handling it. She is answering the questions, she is in the area, she iw WORKING on behalf of these people.
If you were an evacuee in Lac la Biche combing through clothes and the PM walked in, wouldn't you feel better? That is his job. This is just my opinion, but I do not think there is anything more important in the country than this right now. He is the leader of the country.
Like I said (and I hate George Dubbya), Bush was lambasted for not showing up to New Orleans. How is Trudeau avoiding this same scrutiny? Its bullshit.
Yes, it will be nice for the evacuees when Trudeau shows up. But as i already said, people are still being evacuated. Really, people aren't at the stage where you seem to think they are. They are simply not prepared for Trudeau to show up yet. When it is appropriate - when the chaos had settled a tiny bit, when all resources aren't needed for fighting the fire that is still raging, and the people coming from the north have been escorted to safety - he'll probably show up. No one expected Bush to wade into New Orleans and shake hands with the people as they waited in line to enter the stadium right in the middle of the floods. You aren't being very realistic. I'm sure Trudeau will go as soon as it is logistically possible. Right now i doubt they can even spare the security resources that he would require. There are more important things than Trudeau and a massive media frenzy that would surround him right at this moment.
Here is what he said, and i agree with him. If he turned up now focus would shift from the victims to him, and he knows it:
"Asked when he would be visiting Fort McMurray, Trudeau said he would do so in the coming weeks but that for now the best thing he could do was to stay out of the way and let emergency responders do their work.
"I think we're all aware that a prime minister showing up in Fort McMurray when firefighters are busy trying to contain a massive, raging wildfire is not a particularly helpful thing," he said.....
The prime minister said Goodale is meeting with provincial and territorial ministers responsible for emergency preparedness, to discuss how the two levels of government "can prepare for and better manage" tragedies such as the one in Fort McMurray."
CBC
Meanwhile, he's making sure that thousands and thousands of cots and other desperately needed supplies are being sent there on behalf of the federal government, discussing relief funds, etc. He's actually doing useful things that are more important than him wandering around with a media entourage.
You agree with him, I disagree. Louisiana had a Governor. George W has lambasted by the left leaning media for not going to New Orleans.
Trudeau is getting a pass. Those are just the facts, whether you agree or not.
And although this type of event is seen by some as 'leadership'... placing a brand new helmet on his head, sporting some brand new steel toed boots and brandishing a glistening new Pulaski while kissing babies amongst the ashes isn't my idea of leadership.
Wow. The evacuees aren't fighting the fires.
Go see the PEOPLE.
Does anyone read anymore?
I was saying that Trudeau appearing on the scene like GWB in the jet fighter pilot's garb would likely have irritated you. Wouldn't you have made some comment regarding him 'pouncing on the misfortunes of the Albertans' for a photo opportunity? He can't win with you no matter what he does.
That's a fair thing to say... given your obvious disdain for him... isn't it?
Edit: I'm not trying to rile you up, man. I'm just stating what I felt needed to be stated. I think the situation is horrific. If my home was burnt down and I was sleeping in my truck with my family in some parking lot... Trudeau's presence or absence would mean nothing to me.
If you would have read what I said about Notley. You would realize everything you are saying is rubbish.
Once again, Bush got flack. Trudeau gets a pass. I notice when things are different and note it.
This event isn't even over yet. I know you are eager, but how about we judge Trudeau once it is?
Once again, you continue to badger me about "giving the guys chance".
How does Bush get lambasted for not heading straight to New Orleans after Katrina and Trudeau get a pass for not visiting the evacuees? No one has given me an answer!
This has nothing to do with my opinion of Trudeau. It is an outside observation into the political arena.
Whether you or I think he should be there or not is irrelevant, the only people that's opinions matter would be the evacuees themselves. If I put myself in the position of an evacuee, and I am sleeping in a curling rink in Lac la Biche with my wife and two kids and the PM walks in and gives me personal reassurance that things will get back to normal, it makes my day.
That he took the time to come and understand the plight would lift the spirits of people.
I would not accuse him of "photo-op" politics here. Notley is on TV everyday and I applauded her for her handling of a delicate situation so far.
The people of Fort Mac and all emergency workers should be proud ... with the exception of the traffic accident that had 2 fatalities everyone got out safely.
And no need to ever compare our response to a disaster to what has gone on in the states.
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Trudeau's decision is fine. Also, what his presence would bring is WAY different than what Bush would have brought with him. Trudeau creates media swarms right now, which was not even close to the case with Bush at that time. His presence right now would not at all helpful to a moving emergency. Get over it dude, no one cares because it's not meaningful to what actually matters right now. I'm personally happier with Trudeau working to provide aid and funding in this emergency, which he's doing. I don't give a shit where he's doing it from.
(plus another chance to say Pearl Jam PLAY REGINA)!
So to recap you think Americans are "whiny bitches" and that Bush did not receive flack for not going to New Orleans Ina timely fashion from the Canadian media.
You are also fine with Trudeau's decision to not go to Fort Mac. I agree, I didn't want him anywhere near Fort Mac. Notley was doing a fine job.
I wanted him to visit the EVACUEES (for the seemingly hundredth time). They weren't in Fort Mac, in case you weren't paying attention. They were in a curling rink in Lac La Biche and centres in Edmonton and Calgary.
Since you consider yourself to be such a caring individual, I ask again, if you were in the Lac La Biche curling rink watching the news of your city's disaster, would it have not made your day and made you feel better to see the PM walk in? Maybe answer some questions, provide leadership.
You ask why I keep harping on an observation I made, question should be why do you keep defending him without ever commenting on the reasons I think he should have went? I don't want him to grab a hose and fight the fire, I want him to be the PM. Harper got flack for visiting the firefighters in Kelowna (rightfully so) when he should have just had a coffee with the evacuees.
And my oh my such hostility. I guess you just don't see the theatre of politics the same way I do.
I am trained to examine things, and when I see something different I have to ask why. I must investigate