Cocks not Glocks - An open carry protest

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  • gimmesometruth27
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    hedonist said:

    Hopefully there's no pistol-shaped one.

    Was going to post a photo but alas, that may be too much for this thread....
    i was going to as well. not gonna put the bars on my own avatar though, haha...
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  • dudeman said:

    You realize that licensed CCW permit holders are among the most law abiding members of society, right?

    Either way, I hope this protest makes everyone fell better.

    Link to some source to justify that comment?
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  • hedonist
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    hedonist said:

    Hopefully there's no pistol-shaped one.

    Was going to post a photo but alas, that may be too much for this thread....
    I'm not a huge lover of Rage, but I do love Pistol Grip Pump...which is kind of fitting.

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  • oftenreading
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    Is it acceptable to bring a 3fap instead of a dildo? Must be fair to both genders.

    Yes, but not if it's semi-automatic.
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  • How about a manual 5 speed with a clutch? Can that be brought to the demo?
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  • oftenreading
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    Clutching is good in this context.
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  • dudeman
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    dudeman said:

    You realize that licensed CCW permit holders are among the most law abiding members of society, right?

    Either way, I hope this protest makes everyone fell better.

    Link to some source to justify that comment?
    Here you go:

    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/RSD/CHL/Reports/ConvictionRatesReport2013.pdf

    http://www.gunfacts.info/gun-control-myths/concealed-carry/

    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/07/10/report-number-of-concealed-carry-permits-surges-as-violent-crime-rate-drops/

    There are plenty more if you care to search yourself.
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  • brianlux
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    "The “campus carry” law passed by the Texas legislature and signed by the Governor in June, requires UT Austin and the other campuses in the UT system to allow students to carry guns on campus."

    I'm glad I'm seeing my optometrist tomorrow because I'M SURE I'm reading this wrong.

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  • dudeman
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    Did you read these articles? Not one of them mentions the percentage of crimes committed by permit holders compared to non-permit holders. The NY Times article references 544 shootings over an 8-year period and over 1/3 of those were suicides.
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  • brianlux
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    I'd be curious to know how many people personally know some who has been killed on campus due to a shooting or at least know someone else who knows someone who has been killed on campus due to a shooting. I fit the latter category. Though I didn't personally know this fairly high profile victim, I know people who did. Their anguish? Not a pretty thing to see.
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  • callen
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    dudeman said:

    Did you read these articles? Not one of them mentions the percentage of crimes committed by permit holders compared to non-permit holders. The NY Times article references 544 shootings over an 8-year period and over 1/3 of those were suicides.
    There's only one stat that matters. Gun deaths in US versus other western countries. More guns = more deaths.

    And I would argue a person that feels so paranoid that they need to carry around a gun has mental issues.

    More guns=More deaths.


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  • callen said:

    dudeman said:

    Did you read these articles? Not one of them mentions the percentage of crimes committed by permit holders compared to non-permit holders. The NY Times article references 544 shootings over an 8-year period and over 1/3 of those were suicides.
    And I would argue a person that feels so paranoid that they need to carry around a gun has mental issues.

    More guns=More deaths.


    This is where the crux of the matter is. Let's give a bunch of emotionally immature, away from their comfort zone, exposed to excessive amounts of drugs and alcohol youngsters easy access to a firearm. Whether they kill others or commit suicide a death has still occurred. It is a fact that college wreaks havoc on a still developing psyche, and this decision not only puts others in danger it puts the carrier in danger. There are ripple effects in both cases. You like guns fine, keep it in your home or on a gun range or a legal hunting area(although most gun carrying enthusiasts are not hunters funnily enough). The need to have a gun with you all of the time is a troubling warning flag in my opinion.
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  • Who Princess
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    brianlux said:

    "The “campus carry” law passed by the Texas legislature and signed by the Governor in June, requires UT Austin and the other campuses in the UT system to allow students to carry guns on campus."

    I'm glad I'm seeing my optometrist tomorrow because I'M SURE I'm reading this wrong.

    I'm afraid you're reading it correctly. My husband went to work for a school in the UT system in August. He's not excited about this upcoming change.

    Back in another life, I taught freshman and sophomore English while I was in grad school. English teachers are not popular. In 2 years I faced down plenty of irate students and had my life threatened by one. I hate to think about the possibility of angry/immature students who might be packing heat.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    edited October 2015
    dudeman said:

    You realize that licensed CCW permit holders are among the most law abiding members of society, right?

    Either way, I hope this protest makes everyone fell better.

    but with the vast majority of the school executives, and the vast majority of POLICE CHIEFS opposing this, and the vast majority of students against this, you still think it's a good idea?

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  • dudeman
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    edited October 2015

    dudeman said:

    You realize that licensed CCW permit holders are among the most law abiding members of society, right?

    Either way, I hope this protest makes everyone fell better.

    but with the vast majority of the school executives, and the vast majority of POLICE CHIEFS opposing this, and the vast majority of students against this, you still think it's a good idea?

    They're not issuing Glocks to students at orientation, they are allowing lawful concealed carry by law abiding students and staff. Those people are subject to scrutiny in the process of obtaining their permit. Want background checks? These people have had them.

    And, since the school executives, police chiefs and majority of students have failed to keep college campuses safe from mass shootings thus far, yes, I think CCW holders should not be prevented from protecting themselves.
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  • dudeman said:

    dudeman said:

    You realize that licensed CCW permit holders are among the most law abiding members of society, right?

    Either way, I hope this protest makes everyone fell better.

    but with the vast majority of the school executives, and the vast majority of POLICE CHIEFS opposing this, and the vast majority of students against this, you still think it's a good idea?

    They're not issuing Glocks to students at orientation, they are allowing lawful concealed carry by law abiding students and staff. Those people are subject to scrutiny in the process of obtaining their permit. Want background checks, these people have had them.

    And, since the school executives, police chiefs and majority of students have failed to keep college campuses safe from mass shootings thus far, yes, I think CCW holders should not be prevented from protecting themselves.
    http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/oct/04/oregon-shooting-state-universities-campus-gun-laws-concealed-carry
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  • dudeman
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    callen said:

    dudeman said:

    Did you read these articles? Not one of them mentions the percentage of crimes committed by permit holders compared to non-permit holders. The NY Times article references 544 shootings over an 8-year period and over 1/3 of those were suicides.
    There's only one stat that matters. Gun deaths in US versus other western countries. More guns = more deaths.

    And I would argue a person that feels so paranoid that they need to carry around a gun has mental issues.

    More guns=More deaths.


    Mental issues? What about the people and families who have been the victims of violent crime? Many people resolve themselves to not being victimized again and take steps to ensure their own safety. I realize that it is ultimately my responsibility to ensure the safety of my family and myself.

    You can think of me as mental or paranoid, I consider myself to be prepared to handle really shitty situations.
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  • dudeman
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    callen said:

    dudeman said:

    Did you read these articles? Not one of them mentions the percentage of crimes committed by permit holders compared to non-permit holders. The NY Times article references 544 shootings over an 8-year period and over 1/3 of those were suicides.
    And I would argue a person that feels so paranoid that they need to carry around a gun has mental issues.

    More guns=More deaths.


    This is where the crux of the matter is. Let's give a bunch of emotionally immature, away from their comfort zone, exposed to excessive amounts of drugs and alcohol youngsters easy access to a firearm. Whether they kill others or commit suicide a death has still occurred. It is a fact that college wreaks havoc on a still developing psyche, and this decision not only puts others in danger it puts the carrier in danger. There are ripple effects in both cases. You like guns fine, keep it in your home or on a gun range or a legal hunting area(although most gun carrying enthusiasts are not hunters funnily enough). The need to have a gun with you all of the time is a troubling warning flag in my opinion.
    Warning flag to you, learned to be prepared to me.
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