2016 PJ25 Tour Rumors

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  • deadendpdeadendp Northeast Ohio Posts: 10,434
    edited March 2016
    derbydave said:

    SS49057 said:

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    KL159781 said:

    According to what Jeff told me on Friday after the RNDM show, what is announced is all there will be this year, with the possibility of 1 other show. I asked him if that could be the rumored Gorge show and he said no. He said they will play the West Coast in 1 to 1 1/2 years, which I assume will coincide with a new album.

    Well it's a long shot, but I'm hoping the "possibility of 1 other show" is a headlining set at PromoWest Fest in Columbus, OH.

    It's July 15 - 17 and tickets go on sale tomorrow (only $169 plus fees).

    I am 99% sure the lineup is getting announced sometime today. Crossing my fingers for PJ appearance...

    If you're curious about the fest:
    promowestfest.com
    That's a new one for Columbus...keep us posted on the lineup!!
    I'm just hoping this means Promowest has abandoned the idea of holding their "bigger" shows in the parking lot behind The LC or Express LIVE! or whatever they are calling it now! :rock_on:

    Yes, it's called Express Live (ugggh...gotta be one of the worst corporate name-in-title sponsorship for a concert venue).

    Did you hear that Columbus Commons (where the Columbus Symphony Orchestra performs in summer) is hosting Taste of Chaos?

    The show is promoted by Live Nation (Belkin Productions) which makes me curious as to whether or not Live Nation has some type of new promoter agreement with Columbus Commons and we can expect to see more contemporary shows announced there. It's only a matter of time before they start competing with PromoWest Productions for the 5K+ capacity outdoor concert market in Columbus.
    I've got tickets to see Ray LaMontagne at the Columbus Commons,
    been there for a few local shows...
    Angela Perley and The Howling Moons,
    but this will be the first BIG show I've seen there!!
    Looking forward to it!! :rock_on:
    Nope, no Pearl Jam for PromoWest Fest. Still, some pretty decent acts:

    Modest Mouse, Brand New, Ryan Adams, Tears for Fears, Mac Miller, The Decemberists, Noel Gallagher’s High Flying Birds, Fitz & The Tantrums, All Time Low, Garbage, X Ambassadors, J. Roddy Walston & The Business, Moon Taxi, Atlas Genius, The Wombats, Black Lips, AlunaGeorge, RJD2, The Dear Hunter, Red Wanting Blue, Black Pistol Fire, Austin Plaine, Grizfolk, Holy White Hounds, The World is a Beautiful Place & I am no Longer Afraid to Die, Banners, Mimicking Birds, Pup, Coast Modern, Finish Ticket, Copywrite, Nick D & The Believers, Lonesome as Gold, Way Yes and The Worn Flints.

    Tickets are $169 plus fees for all 3 days, and they also will sell daily tickets (not sure of their price): http://www.ticketmaster.com/promowest-fest-three-day-ga-pass-columbus-ohio/event/05005068CC52725E?artistid=2221482&majorcatid=10001&minorcatid=766
    Not a bad line-up for the first time out...
    I may sign up for a couple of volunteer shifts after the daily line-up is released!!
    :rock_on:
    Modest Mouse and J Roddy are there! I shall remain north though.
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  • vant0037vant0037 Posts: 6,135
    First rock show for US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis is Metallica.

    I'll have to double check with my source as to whether this was his info or not.
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  • ultrapigultrapig South Dakota Posts: 167
    vant0037 said:

    First rock show for US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis is Metallica.

    I'll have to double check with my source as to whether this was his info or not.

    Yeah just annouced for August 20. With Avenged Sevenfold and Volbeat.
  • radarradar Posts: 776
    We have 24 shows planned for 2016. One more And we will have 25. PJ25
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    sounds about right
  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 93,184
    radar said:

    We have 24 shows planned for 2016. One more And we will have 25. PJ25

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  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
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  • logan5ivelogan5ive Dallas, TX Posts: 491
    Well, isn't that convenient!
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  • High Fidelity 2000High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,435
    demetrios said:

    radar said:

    We have 24 shows planned for 2016. One more And we will have 25. PJ25

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  • FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100
    radar said:

    We have 24 shows planned for 2016. One more And we will have 25. PJ25

    Wow. I am going to 5 out of 24 shows = 20.8%, that's crazy!
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  • tylermooretylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 984
    FrankieG said:

    radar said:

    We have 24 shows planned for 2016. One more And we will have 25. PJ25

    Wow. I am going to 5 out of 24 shows = 20.8%, that's crazy!
    Just bought a ticket for Hampton last night making it my 6th this year! Being from Michigan it's pretty irresponsible but I need to travel and what a reason to do so.
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,310
    edited March 2016
    FrankieG said:

    radar said:

    We have 24 shows planned for 2016. One more And we will have 25. PJ25

    Wow. I am going to 5 out of 24 shows = 20.8%, that's crazy!
    29% for me. That's absurd :lol:.

    Oh know I'm realizing adding one more show would made it exactly one third :smiley:
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  • stevedsteved Posts: 657

    FrankieG said:

    radar said:

    We have 24 shows planned for 2016. One more And we will have 25. PJ25

    Wow. I am going to 5 out of 24 shows = 20.8%, that's crazy!
    29% for me. That's absurd :lol:.

    Oh know I'm realizing adding one more show would made it exactly one third :smiley:
    We just decided to add night 2 in Toronto to our list and that is 13 out of 24! I have never done this many.. The most I have done was 8 in a year over 2 legs spread out in 2003...

    13 out of 24 = 54%

    Excited and scared my daughter won't remember my name...LOL
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  • bbisonbbison Posts: 221

    I've got a spidey sense that Psyco in Vegas or Bubershoot in Seattle may happen . The headliners for either have not been announced and Mudhoney seems to be the odd band at Psyco.

    Been a while since they were at Outside Lands....and there's always Bridge School

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    Is this where the show list goes?

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  • what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    I can't believe there are 580 new posts since the last time I read this thread. WTF?
  • DeamonDeamon Posts: 167

    I can't believe there are 580 new posts since the last time I read this thread. WTF?

    430 were fans speculating on shows that never happened
    150 were about the Cubs.
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  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,000
    Reading about so many people doing 5, 10, 15 shows...that's exactly what this tour affords the people who can seize the opportunity. Won't be seeing this itinerary again for a while so it's great for all these folks to do.
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  • derbydavederbydave Columbus, OH Posts: 11,254
    100 Pacer said:

    Reading about so many people doing 5, 10, 15 shows...that's exactly what this tour affords the people who can seize the opportunity. Won't be seeing this itinerary again for a while so it's great for all these folks to do.

    10 for me...it's going to be a GREAT year!! :rock_on:
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  • chiefnjkchiefnjk Posts: 304
    edited March 2016
    bbison said:

    I've got a spidey sense that Psyco in Vegas or Bubershoot in Seattle may happen . The headliners for either have not been announced and Mudhoney seems to be the odd band at Psyco.

    Been a while since they were at Outside Lands....and there's always Bridge School

    Regards,
    Ever Optimistic
    Bay Area, CA
    Outside Lands is 8/5-8/7 this year (same dates as Fenway shows). With the rumor that one more show could be added, it does seem like it could be a festival that hasn't announced its lineup yet. Perhaps FYF in LA in late August? That would give PJ pretty good mix of festivals, ballpark shows and arena dates in 2016. If nothing else, it's fun to speculate!
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  • nothinasitseemsnothinasitseems New Jersey Posts: 1,514
    derbydave said:

    100 Pacer said:

    Reading about so many people doing 5, 10, 15 shows...that's exactly what this tour affords the people who can seize the opportunity. Won't be seeing this itinerary again for a while so it's great for all these folks to do.

    10 for me...it's going to be a GREAT year!! :rock_on:
    10! that's amazing. :clap: i'm stoked with my 5. :lol: would love to add fenway 1 to my list but i think my boyfriend would kill me...
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  • nothinasitseemsnothinasitseems New Jersey Posts: 1,514

    I can't believe there are 580 new posts since the last time I read this thread. WTF?

    there were 1000 for me but i haven't been on the boards in a month...
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  • freecandy44freecandy44 Pittsburghish Posts: 90
    Since im in Pittsburgh and late summer date isnt looking good, im pondering either Lexington or ugh...Philly.
  • FrankieGFrankieG Abingdon MD Posts: 9,100

    FrankieG said:

    radar said:

    We have 24 shows planned for 2016. One more And we will have 25. PJ25

    Wow. I am going to 5 out of 24 shows = 20.8%, that's crazy!
    29% for me. That's absurd :lol:.

    Oh know I'm realizing adding one more show would made it exactly one third :smiley:
    Fenway is starting to look more and more realistic if I can find a ticket.. Atleast my work schedule has sorta worked itself out that I can get time off in August now.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,901
    I'm only doing 1
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 17,053

    I'm only doing 1

    2 for me.
    This weekend we rock Portland
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117
    edited March 2016
    8 so far this year... a new personal record

    I think I've lost my mind lol
    Post edited by my2hands on
  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,298
    Poncier said:

    I'm only doing 1

    2 for me.
    2 for me as well.
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  • AT268546AT268546 Posts: 2
    edited March 2016
    ......
  • on2legson2legs Posts: 15,265

    I'm only doing 1

    Get with it... that's 4.2%.
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  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818

    I'm only doing 1

    2 for me and that broke the bank between tickets, the travel, and lodging...oh how you have to pay to play :)

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