Hillary won more votes for President

mrussel1

Free said:

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2016/12/18/snl-parodies-'love-actually'-hillary-clinton/95582864/

So wait... the meme's presumption is that Hillary and Huma are lesbians and that this parody on SNL is confirmation.. Or am I missing something funny in here?

JC29856

mrussel1 said:

Free said:

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/2016/12/18/snl-parodies-'love-actually'-hillary-clinton/95582864/

So wait... the meme's presumption is that Hillary and Huma are lesbians and that this parody on SNL is confirmation.. Or am I missing something funny in here?

Meme makes no reference to lesbianism, vanity fair states that Hilliary inner circle this week are blaming Huma.

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/12/huma-abedin-life-after-clinton

HughFreakingDillon

one source talking to vanity fair doesn't mean shit. the "source" obviously sounds bitter, so take it with a grain or two.

JC29856

HughFreakingDillon said:

one source talking to vanity fair doesn't mean shit. the "source" obviously sounds bitter, so take it with a grain or two.

Agreed but it seems like every week their is another scapegoat. Sometimes I don't even believe Hilliary lost to a game show host.

HughFreakingDillon

http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/18/politics/electoral-college-donald-trump-monday/index.html

HughFreakingDillon

Bush, too, lost the popular vote -- but Trump lost by a larger margin. He will become the worst-performing president in the popular vote relative to his closest rival aside from Rutherford B. Hayes in 1876 and John Quincy Adams in 1824, an election that featured four candidates and was decided by the House of Representatives.

JimmyV

Wasn't it Mark Penn's fault when she lost 8 years ago? When do we get to blam

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

one source talking to vanity fair doesn't mean shit. the "source" obviously sounds bitter, so take it with a grain or two.

Agreed but it seems like every week their is another scapegoat. Sometimes I don't even believe Hilliary lost to a game show host.

8 years ago when she lost it was all Mark Penn's fault. I agree with Hugh that any of these postmortems should be taken with a grain of salt, particularly if they are anonymously sourced. But we've been here before with Clinton campaigns. The fact will always be that there is plenty of blame to go around and much of it rests on the shoulders at the very top.

JC29856

has anyone seen this?

what dreams

Why is it with the election over, there are still people obsessed with tearing Hillary Clinton down?

oftenreading

what dreams said:

Why is it with the election over, there are still people obsessed with tearing Hillary Clinton down?

Because they insist that it's those who voted Dem who can't let it go.

JimmyV

what dreams said:

Why is it with the election over, there are still people obsessed with tearing Hillary Clinton down?

Because she lost a winnable election and doomed us all to four years of Donald Trump?

Because the Democratic Party first put its fingers on the scale for her, and is now pointing those same fingers in dozens of different directions as part of a blame game?

Because not hurting Hillary Clinton's feelings is far less important than making sure this debacle doesn't happen again?

"Russia! Comey! Wiki!" is a mantra to avoid blame, not one to learn and grow from. Learning, growing, and getting better is what this party needs to do right now.

JC29856

what dreams

JimmyV said:

what dreams said:

Why is it with the election over, there are still people obsessed with tearing Hillary Clinton down?

Because she lost a winnable election and doomed us all to four years of Donald Trump?

Because the Democratic Party first put its fingers on the scale for her, and is now pointing those same fingers in dozens of different directions as part of a blame game?

Because not hurting Hillary Clinton's feelings is far less important than making sure this debacle doesn't happen again?

"Russia! Comey! Wiki!" is a mantra to avoid blame, not one to learn and grow from. Learning, growing, and getting better is what this party needs to do right now.

I don't think that everyone in the Democratic party is crying "Russa! Comey! Wiki!" Sure, there is a group of people making those issues public, including some Republicans who want to investigate so that part of the debacle doesn't happen again. But as far as Clinton is concerned, I'm pretty sure most Democrats understand she was a problem candidate. Most Democrats know there is a problem with the DNC. Most Democrats are interested in conversing about these problems and dealing with them. But we can do it without all the ugly talk about the human being. She is a human being, after all.

JC29856

what dreams said:

JimmyV said:

what dreams said:

Why is it with the election over, there are still people obsessed with tearing Hillary Clinton down?

Because she lost a winnable election and doomed us all to four years of Donald Trump?

Because the Democratic Party first put its fingers on the scale for her, and is now pointing those same fingers in dozens of different directions as part of a blame game?

Because not hurting Hillary Clinton's feelings is far less important than making sure this debacle doesn't happen again?

"Russia! Comey! Wiki!" is a mantra to avoid blame, not one to learn and grow from. Learning, growing, and getting better is what this party needs to do right now.

I don't think that everyone in the Democratic party is crying "Russa! Comey! Wiki!" Sure, there is a group of people making those issues public, including some Republicans who want to investigate so that part of the debacle doesn't happen again. But as far as Clinton is concerned, I'm pretty sure most Democrats understand she was a problem candidate. Most Democrats know there is a problem with the DNC. Most Democrats are interested in conversing about these problems and dealing with them. But we can do it without all the ugly talk about the human being. She is a human being, after all.

Ugly talk? From AMT or somewhere else?

HughFreakingDillon

I wonder how much money she spent on this election and the 2008 primary.

what dreams

JC29856 said:

what dreams said:

JimmyV said:

what dreams said:

Why is it with the election over, there are still people obsessed with tearing Hillary Clinton down?

Because she lost a winnable election and doomed us all to four years of Donald Trump?

Because the Democratic Party first put its fingers on the scale for her, and is now pointing those same fingers in dozens of different directions as part of a blame game?

Because not hurting Hillary Clinton's feelings is far less important than making sure this debacle doesn't happen again?

"Russia! Comey! Wiki!" is a mantra to avoid blame, not one to learn and grow from. Learning, growing, and getting better is what this party needs to do right now.

I don't think that everyone in the Democratic party is crying "Russa! Comey! Wiki!" Sure, there is a group of people making those issues public, including some Republicans who want to investigate so that part of the debacle doesn't happen again. But as far as Clinton is concerned, I'm pretty sure most Democrats understand she was a problem candidate. Most Democrats know there is a problem with the DNC. Most Democrats are interested in conversing about these problems and dealing with them. But we can do it without all the ugly talk about the human being. She is a human being, after all.

Ugly talk? From AMT or somewhere else?

Both. People on AMT who recycle what they read somewhere else

JC29856

what dreams said:

JC29856 said:

what dreams said:

JimmyV said:

what dreams said:

Why is it with the election over, there are still people obsessed with tearing Hillary Clinton down?

Because she lost a winnable election and doomed us all to four years of Donald Trump?

Because the Democratic Party first put its fingers on the scale for her, and is now pointing those same fingers in dozens of different directions as part of a blame game?

Because not hurting Hillary Clinton's feelings is far less important than making sure this debacle doesn't happen again?

"Russia! Comey! Wiki!" is a mantra to avoid blame, not one to learn and grow from. Learning, growing, and getting better is what this party needs to do right now.

I don't think that everyone in the Democratic party is crying "Russa! Comey! Wiki!" Sure, there is a group of people making those issues public, including some Republicans who want to investigate so that part of the debacle doesn't happen again. But as far as Clinton is concerned, I'm pretty sure most Democrats understand she was a problem candidate. Most Democrats know there is a problem with the DNC. Most Democrats are interested in conversing about these problems and dealing with them. But we can do it without all the ugly talk about the human being. She is a human being, after all.

Ugly talk? From AMT or somewhere else?

Both. People on AMT who recycle what they read somewhere else

Certainly no need for ugly talk.

Free

what dreams said:

JimmyV said:

what dreams said:

Why is it with the election over, there are still people obsessed with tearing Hillary Clinton down?

Because she lost a winnable election and doomed us all to four years of Donald Trump?

Because the Democratic Party first put its fingers on the scale for her, and is now pointing those same fingers in dozens of different directions as part of a blame game?

Because not hurting Hillary Clinton's feelings is far less important than making sure this debacle doesn't happen again?

"Russia! Comey! Wiki!" is a mantra to avoid blame, not one to learn and grow from. Learning, growing, and getting better is what this party needs to do right now.

I don't think that everyone in the Democratic party is crying "Russa! Comey! Wiki!" Sure, there is a group of people making those issues public, including some Republicans who want to investigate so that part of the debacle doesn't happen again. But as far as Clinton is concerned, I'm pretty sure most Democrats understand she was a problem candidate. Most Democrats know there is a problem with the DNC. Most Democrats are interested in conversing about these problems and dealing with them. But we can do it without all the ugly talk about the human being. She is a human being, after all.

Not so at all. All the Dems I know are still in denial. They still blame everyone else for their problems and the loss of the election.

what dreams

Free said:

what dreams said:

JimmyV said:

what dreams said:

Why is it with the election over, there are still people obsessed with tearing Hillary Clinton down?

Because she lost a winnable election and doomed us all to four years of Donald Trump?

Because the Democratic Party first put its fingers on the scale for her, and is now pointing those same fingers in dozens of different directions as part of a blame game?

Because not hurting Hillary Clinton's feelings is far less important than making sure this debacle doesn't happen again?

"Russia! Comey! Wiki!" is a mantra to avoid blame, not one to learn and grow from. Learning, growing, and getting better is what this party needs to do right now.

I don't think that everyone in the Democratic party is crying "Russa! Comey! Wiki!" Sure, there is a group of people making those issues public, including some Republicans who want to investigate so that part of the debacle doesn't happen again. But as far as Clinton is concerned, I'm pretty sure most Democrats understand she was a problem candidate. Most Democrats know there is a problem with the DNC. Most Democrats are interested in conversing about these problems and dealing with them. But we can do it without all the ugly talk about the human being. She is a human being, after all.

Not so at all. All the Dems I know are still in denial. They still blame everyone else for their problems and the loss of the election.

You and I hang out in different circles.

JimmyV

Somewhere as I type this the Lady Rothschilds of the world are deciding who their next champion will be. When they do that person will instantly become the odds on favorite to be the Democratic nominee in 2020. There is blame for everyone but themselves.