Hillary won more votes for President
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Or they're just trying to scoop each other. Every channel out there wants to be the first to call the race correctly.Free said:Come on. The media called the 2000 election early, the media called Clinton the nominee the day before *5* states voted, so attempting to excuse the media as a factual and honest medium is mind-blowing. I have to look back and see what this is in reference to, but of course! The media will attempt to call the results (in fact, it is a running competition who will be the first channel to call it, and that goes for every election) early as soon as they think they can get away with it. AP was the one to call Clinton the nominee back in June before those 5 states voted. They got blasted by the voters yet to vote and the observant public for it.
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You're in Canada? Oh man. let's stop wasting each other's time.HughFreakingDillon said:
no I'm not. I just think all this rigged talk is funny. that's all.tonifig8 said:
Your so passive agressive. One moment your talking about how neutral you are and how you're not excited about Clinton, but then lash out with all kinds of crazy comments.HughFreakingDillon said:
but, gern, RIGGED!!!!Gern Blansten said:
The graphic even shows "Wayback Machine" on it...HughFreakingDillon said:
this is exactly the explanation I was about to give. this shit happens all the time and people freak out.CM189191 said:
Or maybe they were just testing their on-air graphics with the results from their latest polls to make sure they worked properly on election night....pjalive21 said:
....I guess when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
RIIGGED!!!!!
We're posting facts. Not acting like conspiracy nuts.
I'm only neutral in the sense I think both parties suck. BUT I don't want Trump to win. But I am not affiliated with any particular party (in Canada I have voted across the board) if that's what you mean.
with all the nonsense with this election, sometimes you just need to have some fun. nothing more than that.
Keep it on the substance as the moderator suggested.0 -
I honestly don't know what "crazy comments" you are referring to, but again, I was just trying to be light hearted. My apologies if it came off as passive agressive. I sincerely was not trying to flame anyone.tonifig8 said:
Your so passive agressive. One moment your talking about how neutral you are and how you're not excited about Clinton, but then lash out with all kinds of crazy comments.HughFreakingDillon said:
but, gern, RIGGED!!!!Gern Blansten said:
The graphic even shows "Wayback Machine" on it...HughFreakingDillon said:
this is exactly the explanation I was about to give. this shit happens all the time and people freak out.CM189191 said:
Or maybe they were just testing their on-air graphics with the results from their latest polls to make sure they worked properly on election night....pjalive21 said:
....I guess when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
RIIGGED!!!!!
We're posting facts. Not acting like conspiracy nuts.
Maybe it's time for a break for me. I think I have US Election Fatigue.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Anyone see this?JC29856 said:Laura Silsby, former director of The New Life Children's Refuge. She was caught trying to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families.
Hillary has a LONG history of interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO. Laura had claimed she planned to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but authorities in the country said she never submitted an application for this purpose. They instead located to Haiti.
Sources:
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10BUENOSAIRES166_a.html
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman's organization:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
One of the first things Hillary did when she took over the scene in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread541416/pg6
http://harvardhrj.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/King.pdf
And the attorney who represented Laura Silsby? A man who was himself convicted as a sex trafficker:
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/32/323249_-os-haiti-us-legal-adviser-to-u-s-haiti-missionaries.html
Wikileaks where they are literally pricing how much it costs to transport children:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Haitian Authorities trying to Traffic kids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children's_Refuge_case
They're in the Clinton Emails;
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Pitch for funding
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
This looks like Mills & co are drafting statements following extradition.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
This factual information is jaw dropping.0 -
omg news flash. Haiti is kind of shitshow and a lot of crazy stuff goes on down there.tonifig8 said:
Anyone see this?JC29856 said:Laura Silsby, former director of The New Life Children's Refuge. She was caught trying to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families.
Hillary has a LONG history of interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO. Laura had claimed she planned to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but authorities in the country said she never submitted an application for this purpose. They instead located to Haiti.
Sources:
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10BUENOSAIRES166_a.html
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman's organization:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
One of the first things Hillary did when she took over the scene in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread541416/pg6
http://harvardhrj.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/King.pdf
And the attorney who represented Laura Silsby? A man who was himself convicted as a sex trafficker:
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/32/323249_-os-haiti-us-legal-adviser-to-u-s-haiti-missionaries.html
Wikileaks where they are literally pricing how much it costs to transport children:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Haitian Authorities trying to Traffic kids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children's_Refuge_case
They're in the Clinton Emails;
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Pitch for funding
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
This looks like Mills & co are drafting statements following extradition.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
This factual information is jaw dropping.0 -
OMG!! OMG!! HahahahaCM189191 said:
omg news flash. Haiti is kind of shitshow and a lot of crazy stuff goes on down there.tonifig8 said:
Anyone see this?JC29856 said:Laura Silsby, former director of The New Life Children's Refuge. She was caught trying to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families.
Hillary has a LONG history of interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO. Laura had claimed she planned to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but authorities in the country said she never submitted an application for this purpose. They instead located to Haiti.
Sources:
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10BUENOSAIRES166_a.html
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman's organization:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
One of the first things Hillary did when she took over the scene in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread541416/pg6
http://harvardhrj.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/King.pdf
And the attorney who represented Laura Silsby? A man who was himself convicted as a sex trafficker:
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/32/323249_-os-haiti-us-legal-adviser-to-u-s-haiti-missionaries.html
Wikileaks where they are literally pricing how much it costs to transport children:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Haitian Authorities trying to Traffic kids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children's_Refuge_case
They're in the Clinton Emails;
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Pitch for funding
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
This looks like Mills & co are drafting statements following extradition.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
This factual information is jaw dropping.
Just glad that someone besides me read it.
Thank You for the exceptional work, JC!0 -
It's a tease, a preface for what's to come.tonifig8 said:
Anyone see this?JC29856 said:Laura Silsby, former director of The New Life Children's Refuge. She was caught trying to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families.
Hillary has a LONG history of interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO. Laura had claimed she planned to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but authorities in the country said she never submitted an application for this purpose. They instead located to Haiti.
Sources:
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10BUENOSAIRES166_a.html
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman's organization:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
One of the first things Hillary did when she took over the scene in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread541416/pg6
http://harvardhrj.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/King.pdf
And the attorney who represented Laura Silsby? A man who was himself convicted as a sex trafficker:
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/32/323249_-os-haiti-us-legal-adviser-to-u-s-haiti-missionaries.html
Wikileaks where they are literally pricing how much it costs to transport children:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Haitian Authorities trying to Traffic kids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children's_Refuge_case
They're in the Clinton Emails;
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Pitch for funding
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
This looks like Mills & co are drafting statements following extradition.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
This factual information is jaw dropping.0 -
...I'm on the most boring conference call ever....tonifig8 said:
OMG!! OMG!! HahahahaCM189191 said:
omg news flash. Haiti is kind of shitshow and a lot of crazy stuff goes on down there.tonifig8 said:
Anyone see this?JC29856 said:Laura Silsby, former director of The New Life Children's Refuge. She was caught trying to steal 33 children from the country, most of whom were not even orphans and had families.
Hillary has a LONG history of interest in Ms. Silsby. Wikileak emails dating back till at least 2001 have been found in her archives discussing Laura's NGO. Laura had claimed she planned to build an orphanage in the Dominican Republic, but authorities in the country said she never submitted an application for this purpose. They instead located to Haiti.
Sources:
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/10BUENOSAIRES166_a.html
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
Huma Abedin was constantly forwarding Hillary articles on this woman's organization:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
One of the first things Hillary did when she took over the scene in Haiti was to get Laura off the hook:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread541416/pg6
http://harvardhrj.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/King.pdf
And the attorney who represented Laura Silsby? A man who was himself convicted as a sex trafficker:
https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/32/323249_-os-haiti-us-legal-adviser-to-u-s-haiti-missionaries.html
Wikileaks where they are literally pricing how much it costs to transport children:
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Haitian Authorities trying to Traffic kids.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Life_Children's_Refuge_case
They're in the Clinton Emails;
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3741
Pitch for funding
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/3465
This looks like Mills & co are drafting statements following extradition.
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/2772
This factual information is jaw dropping.
Just glad that someone besides me read it.
Thank You for the exceptional work, JC!0 -
I'll take the bait on that.Vitalogensia said:PJ_Soul said:
Ahaha, always nice to see that high road being taken, lol.
I would also like to not lose anyone else, and would be thrilled if more people would join in... I wonder how many lurkers there are on the AMT? If any of you are reading this, speak up, we need some people to shake up our AMT bubble of aggression and low blows.
Quick summary: longtime lurker, first time responder; mid-30s, socially liberal, Red Catholic upbringing, moderately conservative network of friends/co-workers. I try to vote third party simply based on principle of believing we need more voices in the arena, I've never been particularly swayed by any presidential candidate in my life (kinda doubt that's possible, honestly), but voting Democratic this year mostly against Trump, but also somewhat in support of Hillary. I don't feel great voting for her, though I don't mind her, yet I also don't think Armageddon is on the horizon if Trump wins. I think a lot of people that bash Trump (which they may have a valid points for) vastly misinterpret his supporters. The majority of people I know voting for Trump are not stupid, they aren't hateful; they're good people and they work hard and care. Most of them don't necessarily care about big political issues (or, perhaps, the things that put his haters into a rage don't register with them, so they seem clueless?). They are apathetic to the system. Trump has somehow invigorated them into caring (obviously in different degrees), and I've seen some people get swept up in the euphoria of caring. I think anti-Trump people have so much emotion towards him as a person that they have a mental block when it comes to people that don't back away from supporting him. They see him as a person that will change a system that seems fucked up every presidential election, and honestly I respect that mentality and desire. But I think there could be someone smarter and better fit to fuck up the system.
Hope this hasn't angered anyone, not trying to get into one-on-one debates with you all at all. I enjoy reading these threads because I get exposed to lots of voices and idea and sources of information I wouldn't find otherwise, which makes me somewhat wiser, so thank you all for that. I also like the random moments I see one of AMT peeps make a Pearl Jam comment or two. Okay, rant over; America!
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Hello, nice to see a new person's perspective!
And so level-headed too, haha, quite refreshing to read amongst all the emotion regulars tend to bring. Would love to see you and others who don't normally post contribute more.
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yes, Winnipeg is in canada.tonifig8 said:
You're in Canada? Oh man. let's stop wasting each other's time.HughFreakingDillon said:
no I'm not. I just think all this rigged talk is funny. that's all.tonifig8 said:
Your so passive agressive. One moment your talking about how neutral you are and how you're not excited about Clinton, but then lash out with all kinds of crazy comments.HughFreakingDillon said:
but, gern, RIGGED!!!!Gern Blansten said:
The graphic even shows "Wayback Machine" on it...HughFreakingDillon said:
this is exactly the explanation I was about to give. this shit happens all the time and people freak out.CM189191 said:
Or maybe they were just testing their on-air graphics with the results from their latest polls to make sure they worked properly on election night....pjalive21 said:
....I guess when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
RIIGGED!!!!!
We're posting facts. Not acting like conspiracy nuts.
I'm only neutral in the sense I think both parties suck. BUT I don't want Trump to win. But I am not affiliated with any particular party (in Canada I have voted across the board) if that's what you mean.
with all the nonsense with this election, sometimes you just need to have some fun. nothing more than that.
Keep it on the substance as the moderator suggested.
sorry for being a canadian with an opinion on world affairs that people outside of your borders actually have a vested interest in. By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
more passive aggressive stuff, huh?HughFreakingDillon said:
yes, Winnipeg is in canada.tonifig8 said:
You're in Canada? Oh man. let's stop wasting each other's time.HughFreakingDillon said:
no I'm not. I just think all this rigged talk is funny. that's all.tonifig8 said:
Your so passive agressive. One moment your talking about how neutral you are and how you're not excited about Clinton, but then lash out with all kinds of crazy comments.HughFreakingDillon said:
but, gern, RIGGED!!!!Gern Blansten said:
The graphic even shows "Wayback Machine" on it...HughFreakingDillon said:
this is exactly the explanation I was about to give. this shit happens all the time and people freak out.CM189191 said:
Or maybe they were just testing their on-air graphics with the results from their latest polls to make sure they worked properly on election night....pjalive21 said:
....I guess when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
RIIGGED!!!!!
We're posting facts. Not acting like conspiracy nuts.
I'm only neutral in the sense I think both parties suck. BUT I don't want Trump to win. But I am not affiliated with any particular party (in Canada I have voted across the board) if that's what you mean.
with all the nonsense with this election, sometimes you just need to have some fun. nothing more than that.
Keep it on the substance as the moderator suggested.
sorry for being a canadian with an opinion on world affairs that people outside of your borders actually have a vested interest in.
I'm not sure when I suggested you not have an opinion on world affairs. More power to you in that regard.
I never even bothered to look at your location. Just kept seeing your user name. My bad.
Moving on.Post edited by Boxes&Books on0 -
That's what Russia saidHughFreakingDillon said:
yes, Winnipeg is in canada.tonifig8 said:
You're in Canada? Oh man. let's stop wasting each other's time.HughFreakingDillon said:
no I'm not. I just think all this rigged talk is funny. that's all.tonifig8 said:
Your so passive agressive. One moment your talking about how neutral you are and how you're not excited about Clinton, but then lash out with all kinds of crazy comments.HughFreakingDillon said:
but, gern, RIGGED!!!!Gern Blansten said:
The graphic even shows "Wayback Machine" on it...HughFreakingDillon said:
this is exactly the explanation I was about to give. this shit happens all the time and people freak out.CM189191 said:
Or maybe they were just testing their on-air graphics with the results from their latest polls to make sure they worked properly on election night....pjalive21 said:
....I guess when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
RIIGGED!!!!!
We're posting facts. Not acting like conspiracy nuts.
I'm only neutral in the sense I think both parties suck. BUT I don't want Trump to win. But I am not affiliated with any particular party (in Canada I have voted across the board) if that's what you mean.
with all the nonsense with this election, sometimes you just need to have some fun. nothing more than that.
Keep it on the substance as the moderator suggested.
sorry for being a canadian with an opinion on world affairs that people outside of your borders actually have a vested interest in.0 -
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/the-economist-endorsement-endorses-backs-supports-hillary-clinton-for-president
Another endorsement....I agree with them.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
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That's just one magazine.Gern Blansten said:http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/the-economist-endorsement-endorses-backs-supports-hillary-clinton-for-president
Another endorsement....I agree with them.
How about these guys:
370 Economists, including eight Nobel Prize winners : ‘Do Not Vote For Donald Trump’
http://time.com/4555032/economists-against-donald-trump/0 -
I'm still fascinated by the support being thrown to Hillary- by people who previously were against her- who either are voting for "lesser of two evils" or now somehow are convinced that all the things they didn't like about Hillary are "not so bad after all"- I believe this is what is known as cognitive dissonance."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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I was just responding to your "you're in canada? let's stop wasting each other's time then" comment. which to me meant, as I see quite often on these boards, that my opinion is of no consequence.tonifig8 said:
more passive aggressive stuff, huh?HughFreakingDillon said:
yes, Winnipeg is in canada.tonifig8 said:
You're in Canada? Oh man. let's stop wasting each other's time.HughFreakingDillon said:
no I'm not. I just think all this rigged talk is funny. that's all.tonifig8 said:
Your so passive agressive. One moment your talking about how neutral you are and how you're not excited about Clinton, but then lash out with all kinds of crazy comments.HughFreakingDillon said:
but, gern, RIGGED!!!!Gern Blansten said:
The graphic even shows "Wayback Machine" on it...HughFreakingDillon said:
this is exactly the explanation I was about to give. this shit happens all the time and people freak out.CM189191 said:
Or maybe they were just testing their on-air graphics with the results from their latest polls to make sure they worked properly on election night....pjalive21 said:
....I guess when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
RIIGGED!!!!!
We're posting facts. Not acting like conspiracy nuts.
I'm only neutral in the sense I think both parties suck. BUT I don't want Trump to win. But I am not affiliated with any particular party (in Canada I have voted across the board) if that's what you mean.
with all the nonsense with this election, sometimes you just need to have some fun. nothing more than that.
Keep it on the substance as the moderator suggested.
sorry for being a canadian with an opinion on world affairs that people outside of your borders actually have a vested interest in.
I'm not sure when I suggested you not have an opinion on world affairs. More power to you in that regard.
I never even bothered to look at your location. Just kept seeing your user name. My bad.
Moving on.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
LOLPJPOWER said:
That's what Russia saidHughFreakingDillon said:
yes, Winnipeg is in canada.tonifig8 said:
You're in Canada? Oh man. let's stop wasting each other's time.HughFreakingDillon said:
no I'm not. I just think all this rigged talk is funny. that's all.tonifig8 said:
Your so passive agressive. One moment your talking about how neutral you are and how you're not excited about Clinton, but then lash out with all kinds of crazy comments.HughFreakingDillon said:
but, gern, RIGGED!!!!Gern Blansten said:
The graphic even shows "Wayback Machine" on it...HughFreakingDillon said:
this is exactly the explanation I was about to give. this shit happens all the time and people freak out.CM189191 said:
Or maybe they were just testing their on-air graphics with the results from their latest polls to make sure they worked properly on election night....pjalive21 said:
....I guess when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
RIIGGED!!!!!
We're posting facts. Not acting like conspiracy nuts.
I'm only neutral in the sense I think both parties suck. BUT I don't want Trump to win. But I am not affiliated with any particular party (in Canada I have voted across the board) if that's what you mean.
with all the nonsense with this election, sometimes you just need to have some fun. nothing more than that.
Keep it on the substance as the moderator suggested.
sorry for being a canadian with an opinion on world affairs that people outside of your borders actually have a vested interest in.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
The Supreme Court hangs in the balance.brianlux said:I'm still fascinated by the support being thrown to Hillary- by people who previously were against her- who either are voting for "lesser of two evils" or now somehow are convinced that all the things they didn't like about Hillary are "not so bad after all"- I believe this is what is known as cognitive dissonance.
What does the EPA look like under a Trump/Pence admin?
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unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487Probably better than the EPA that destroys rivers in Colorado.0 -
Why has the FBI Files thread been closed? There was no fighting or rules being broken on that thread.0
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