A few things about this: 1. She was never indicted, tried or convicted 2. It has nothing to do with the fact that Trump clearly fat shamed her on national TV with reporters. 3. Trump has not denied any of it. When he went on Fox and Friends yesterday, he defended why he did it. He didn't deny.
Are you implying because of this situation (of which she wasn't indicted) that she deserved to be fat shamed? I'm not clear what you are trying to accomplish other than smearing someone for Trump's benefit.
Ok you're against fat shaming, me too, I'm alittle overweight myself. Do you have a position on slut shaming?
Oh don't you try to walk someone into the "Hillary was angry at Gennifer Flowers" trap. How many wives out there would not be furious and lash out against their husband's mistress>? That's a pretty natural human reaction.
A few things about this: 1. She was never indicted, tried or convicted 2. It has nothing to do with the fact that Trump clearly fat shamed her on national TV with reporters. 3. Trump has not denied any of it. When he went on Fox and Friends yesterday, he defended why he did it. He didn't deny.
Are you implying because of this situation (of which she wasn't indicted) that she deserved to be fat shamed? I'm not clear what you are trying to accomplish other than smearing someone for Trump's benefit.
Ok you're against fat shaming, me too, I'm alittle overweight myself. Do you have a position on slut shaming?
You really are a piece of work. So, are you:
A: Racist B: an islamophobe C: a misogyst all of the above?
A few things about this: 1. She was never indicted, tried or convicted 2. It has nothing to do with the fact that Trump clearly fat shamed her on national TV with reporters. 3. Trump has not denied any of it. When he went on Fox and Friends yesterday, he defended why he did it. He didn't deny.
Are you implying because of this situation (of which she wasn't indicted) that she deserved to be fat shamed? I'm not clear what you are trying to accomplish other than smearing someone for Trump's benefit.
Ok you're against fat shaming, me too, I'm alittle overweight myself. Do you have a position on slut shaming?
You really are a piece of work. So, are you:
A: Racist B: an islamophobe C: a misogyst all of the above?
I think this was a trap about Hillary and Gennifer Flowers...
"Since The Arizona Republic began publication in 1890, we have never endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for president. Never. This reflects a deep philosophical appreciation for conservative ideals and Republican principles.
This year is different.
The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified.
That’s why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president."
This is big news- very alarming.
The crazy thing is that Clinton and Trump are still neck and neck. What does that say about our candidates? The majority of us around here can agree that trump is garbage, we seem to agree there, however many of us around here don't seem to hold Clinton to the same standards. Are we that much different?
I think the truth is that we're taking a step backwards, in terms of the quality of individual we're about to elect.
"Since The Arizona Republic began publication in 1890, we have never endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for president. Never. This reflects a deep philosophical appreciation for conservative ideals and Republican principles.
This year is different.
The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified.
That’s why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president."
This is big news- very alarming.
The crazy thing is that Clinton and Trump are still neck and neck. What does that say about our candidates? The majority of us around here can agree that trump is garbage, we seem to agree there, however many of us around here don't seem to hold Clinton to the same standards. Are we that much different?
I think the truth is that we're taking a step backwards, in terms of the quality of individual we're about to elect.
You could interpret that, but you could also say it's not really a 'change' election and people are retreating to their party of choice. Romney pulled ahead of Obama after debate one in 2012 and they were neck and neck until election day.
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"Since The Arizona Republic began publication in 1890, we have never endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for president. Never. This reflects a deep philosophical appreciation for conservative ideals and Republican principles.
This year is different.
The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified.
That’s why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president."
This is big news- very alarming.
The crazy thing is that Clinton and Trump are still neck and neck. What does that say about our candidates? The majority of us around here can agree that trump is garbage, we seem to agree there, however many of us around here don't seem to hold Clinton to the same standards. Are we that much different?
I think the truth is that we're taking a step backwards, in terms of the quality of individual we're about to elect.
Many of us will exercise our right to vote 3rd party, Tonigig. We do have that option and this year more than ever, to me at least, it makes sense to do so- especially because I do not live in a swing state!
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"Since The Arizona Republic began publication in 1890, we have never endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for president. Never. This reflects a deep philosophical appreciation for conservative ideals and Republican principles.
This year is different.
The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified.
That’s why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president."
This is big news- very alarming.
The crazy thing is that Clinton and Trump are still neck and neck. What does that say about our candidates? The majority of us around here can agree that trump is garbage, we seem to agree there, however many of us around here don't seem to hold Clinton to the same standards. Are we that much different?
I think the truth is that we're taking a step backwards, in terms of the quality of individual we're about to elect.
Many of us will exercise our right to vote 3rd party, Tonigig. We do have that option and this year more than ever, to me at least, it makes sense to do so- especially because I do not live in a swing state!
Which are considered swing states? I thought there were only 4 swing states that ultimately decide the election.
"Since The Arizona Republic began publication in 1890, we have never endorsed a Democrat over a Republican for president. Never. This reflects a deep philosophical appreciation for conservative ideals and Republican principles.
This year is different.
The 2016 Republican candidate is not conservative and he is not qualified.
That’s why, for the first time in our history, The Arizona Republic will support a Democrat for president."
This is big news- very alarming.
The crazy thing is that Clinton and Trump are still neck and neck. What does that say about our candidates? The majority of us around here can agree that trump is garbage, we seem to agree there, however many of us around here don't seem to hold Clinton to the same standards. Are we that much different?
I think the truth is that we're taking a step backwards, in terms of the quality of individual we're about to elect.
You could interpret that, but you could also say it's not really a 'change' election and people are retreating to their party of choice. Romney pulled ahead of Obama after debate one in 2012 and they were neck and neck until election day.
I would definitely say it's a change election. Change in terms of going away from establisment politicians. The rise of trump and the questionable results of Sanders. I think that's real significant change. We ultimately have two choices, and for many of us it really is the lesser of two evils. I would say that the two third party candidates are going to get a significant amount of votes. Tons of dems/republicans aren't happy with their candidates, hence the consistent unfavorable ratings for these two candidates. But you're right at the end of the day people will probably vote along party lines. That was the case at my debate party. The republicans in the house, who were Cruz supporters and are constitutionalist, said they were going to vote for the clown because Clinton was worse.
This is Change in the sense that next time around we're going to see a different process, assuming progressives can actually influence a prez Clinton.
This election is far from over- and I think Trump still has a chance, how in hell can any politician survive his current campaign is beyond me, but they're still close and Clinton is very much disliked for her politics and her personal issues. It's Going to be very interesting to watch
I really don't understand how anyone thinks a Trump win would get government moving away from establishment politicians or politics. For whoever actually believes that, how do you figure that's actually going to happen? What's Trump going to do to do that, and why would he? I know why he's saying that to voters, but why do people think he would actually do it, when he's never even hinted at how he might go about that. I don't think he's even managed to verbalize why that would be important. Does he know why?? Or is it just another mindless talking point that he knows his supporters gobble up without applying critical thought?
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Remember all that reddit bullshit about the guy trying to cover up an email address....here's why
The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file, FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday. Republican lawmakers have suggested that the July 2014 Reddit post from a user believed to be Platte River Networks specialist Paul Combetta showed an effort to hide Clinton's emails from investigators. However, at a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public. "Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said. Raising the issue with Comey, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said he believed it was obviously part of a cover-up. "This clearly demonstrates an action to destroy evidence by people operating Clinton's private server and her staff," Goodlatte said. In the 2014 Reddit post, user "Stonetear" described "a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP’s (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file." The posting continued: "Basically, they don’t want the VIP’s email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out." Comey said he wasn't sure whether the FBI knew about the Reddit posting when prosecutors granted Combetta immunity to get statements from him about what transpired. However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said.
Remember all that reddit bullshit about the guy trying to cover up an email address....here's why
The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file, FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday. Republican lawmakers have suggested that the July 2014 Reddit post from a user believed to be Platte River Networks specialist Paul Combetta showed an effort to hide Clinton's emails from investigators. However, at a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public. "Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said. Raising the issue with Comey, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said he believed it was obviously part of a cover-up. "This clearly demonstrates an action to destroy evidence by people operating Clinton's private server and her staff," Goodlatte said. In the 2014 Reddit post, user "Stonetear" described "a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP’s (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file." The posting continued: "Basically, they don’t want the VIP’s email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out." Comey said he wasn't sure whether the FBI knew about the Reddit posting when prosecutors granted Combetta immunity to get statements from him about what transpired. However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said.
do any of these media or political endorsements have any significant impact on the voting public? has anyone been able to quantify its effect, if any?
I dunno. Kim Kardashian has "endorsed" Hillary now. Maybe that will be the key to Clinton's success!
haha, I was more meaning endorsements from politically affiliated entities.
Lol, I know. I don't think there is any way of really knowing this right now. Maybe post-election polls would say more. But my guess is that Bernie's endorsement probably brought a lot of voters over to Hillary, despite what Free says. I know some are of course refusing, but I seriously doubt a majority will at the end of the day. I think that was one of her most powerful endorsements. Not to mention the Obamas. And then there are the defectors like the Bushes and the Mark Cuban types. Yeah, I think these kind of people's endorsements, especially the Republican ones, would certainly make most critical thinkers who were humouring the idea of voting Trump reconsider (the non-critical thinkers sure won't be changing their minds. I doubt it would matter if God himself came down from the Heavens and told them to vote Hillary, lol). But as to your actual question... besides being able to see what famous people are doing or people we know personally, no, I don't think there is any reliable way to know one way or the other before election day.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Remember all that reddit bullshit about the guy trying to cover up an email address....here's why
The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file, FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday. Republican lawmakers have suggested that the July 2014 Reddit post from a user believed to be Platte River Networks specialist Paul Combetta showed an effort to hide Clinton's emails from investigators. However, at a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public. "Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said. Raising the issue with Comey, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said he believed it was obviously part of a cover-up. "This clearly demonstrates an action to destroy evidence by people operating Clinton's private server and her staff," Goodlatte said. In the 2014 Reddit post, user "Stonetear" described "a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP’s (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file." The posting continued: "Basically, they don’t want the VIP’s email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out." Comey said he wasn't sure whether the FBI knew about the Reddit posting when prosecutors granted Combetta immunity to get statements from him about what transpired. However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said.
Remember all that reddit bullshit about the guy trying to cover up an email address....here's why
The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file, FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday. Republican lawmakers have suggested that the July 2014 Reddit post from a user believed to be Platte River Networks specialist Paul Combetta showed an effort to hide Clinton's emails from investigators. However, at a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public. "Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said. Raising the issue with Comey, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said he believed it was obviously part of a cover-up. "This clearly demonstrates an action to destroy evidence by people operating Clinton's private server and her staff," Goodlatte said. In the 2014 Reddit post, user "Stonetear" described "a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP’s (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file." The posting continued: "Basically, they don’t want the VIP’s email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out." Comey said he wasn't sure whether the FBI knew about the Reddit posting when prosecutors granted Combetta immunity to get statements from him about what transpired. However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said.
Remember all that reddit bullshit about the guy trying to cover up an email address....here's why
The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file, FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday. Republican lawmakers have suggested that the July 2014 Reddit post from a user believed to be Platte River Networks specialist Paul Combetta showed an effort to hide Clinton's emails from investigators. However, at a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public. "Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said. Raising the issue with Comey, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said he believed it was obviously part of a cover-up. "This clearly demonstrates an action to destroy evidence by people operating Clinton's private server and her staff," Goodlatte said. In the 2014 Reddit post, user "Stonetear" described "a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP’s (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file." The posting continued: "Basically, they don’t want the VIP’s email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out." Comey said he wasn't sure whether the FBI knew about the Reddit posting when prosecutors granted Combetta immunity to get statements from him about what transpired. However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said.
do any of these media or political endorsements have any significant impact on the voting public? has anyone been able to quantify its effect, if any?
Hillary has Katie Perry stripping, she has the entire Democratic establishment working overtime for her- She has newspapers who haven't endorsed a Dem in a century or ever, she has big time celebrities endorsing her and raising millions- she has corporations donating money in truckloads, she has a former republican president, she has endorsement of everyone and their moms, etc..etc.. Trump has his family (not sure if all of them are supporting him) and I think the former mayor of NY city.
Yet the race is neck and neck. Isn't that FUCKING INSANE?!?! Haha... Seriously- if there is one truth here it's that the American people are getting screwed (polls 70% unfavorable consistently for both Candidates).No vaseline either. I get some of you guys like it rough, but I'm speaking to the rest of us.
Remember all that reddit bullshit about the guy trying to cover up an email address....here's why
The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file, FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday. Republican lawmakers have suggested that the July 2014 Reddit post from a user believed to be Platte River Networks specialist Paul Combetta showed an effort to hide Clinton's emails from investigators. However, at a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public. "Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said. Raising the issue with Comey, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said he believed it was obviously part of a cover-up. "This clearly demonstrates an action to destroy evidence by people operating Clinton's private server and her staff," Goodlatte said. In the 2014 Reddit post, user "Stonetear" described "a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP’s (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file." The posting continued: "Basically, they don’t want the VIP’s email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out." Comey said he wasn't sure whether the FBI knew about the Reddit posting when prosecutors granted Combetta immunity to get statements from him about what transpired. However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said.
do any of these media or political endorsements have any significant impact on the voting public? has anyone been able to quantify its effect, if any?
I dunno. Kim Kardashian has "endorsed" Hillary now. Maybe that will be the key to Clinton's success!
haha, I was more meaning endorsements from politically affiliated entities.
Lol, I know. I don't think there is any way of really knowing this right now. Maybe post-election polls would say more. But my guess is that Bernie's endorsement probably brought a lot of voters over to Hillary, despite what Free says. I know some are of course refusing, but I seriously doubt a majority will at the end of the day. I think that was one of her most powerful endorsements. Not to mention the Obamas. And then there are the defectors like the Bushes and the Mark Cuban types. Yeah, I think these kind of people's endorsements, especially the Republican ones, would certainly make most critical thinkers who were humouring the idea of voting Trump reconsider (the non-critical thinkers sure won't be changing their minds. I doubt it would matter if God himself came down from the Heavens and told them to vote Hillary, lol). But as to your actual question... besides being able to see what famous people are doing or people we know personally, no, I don't think there is any reliable way to know one way or the other before election day.
a girlfriend on facebook was one of the hardcore bernie supporters that will now not vote. I don't get it.
a vote not cast in apathy is a vote cast for insanity!
Remember all that reddit bullshit about the guy trying to cover up an email address....here's why
The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file, FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday. Republican lawmakers have suggested that the July 2014 Reddit post from a user believed to be Platte River Networks specialist Paul Combetta showed an effort to hide Clinton's emails from investigators. However, at a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public. "Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said. Raising the issue with Comey, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said he believed it was obviously part of a cover-up. "This clearly demonstrates an action to destroy evidence by people operating Clinton's private server and her staff," Goodlatte said. In the 2014 Reddit post, user "Stonetear" described "a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP’s (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file." The posting continued: "Basically, they don’t want the VIP’s email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out." Comey said he wasn't sure whether the FBI knew about the Reddit posting when prosecutors granted Combetta immunity to get statements from him about what transpired. However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said.
Remember all that reddit bullshit about the guy trying to cover up an email address....here's why
The FBI concluded that a computer technician working on Clinton's email was not engaged in an illicit cover-up when he asked on the Reddit website for a tool that could delete a "VIP" email address throughout a large file, FBI Director James Comey said Wednesday. Republican lawmakers have suggested that the July 2014 Reddit post from a user believed to be Platte River Networks specialist Paul Combetta showed an effort to hide Clinton's emails from investigators. However, at a House Judiciary Committee hearing Wednesday, Comey said FBI agents concluded that all the computer aide was trying to do was replace Clinton's email address so it wouldn't be revealed to the public. "Our team concluded that what he was trying to do was when they produced emails not have the actual address but have some name or placeholder instead of the actual dot-com address in the 'From:' line," Comey said. Raising the issue with Comey, Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte (R-Va.) said he believed it was obviously part of a cover-up. "This clearly demonstrates an action to destroy evidence by people operating Clinton's private server and her staff," Goodlatte said. In the 2014 Reddit post, user "Stonetear" described "a very interesting situation where I need to strip out a VIP’s (VERY VIP) email address from a bunch of archived email that I have both in a live Exchange mailbox, as well as a PST file." The posting continued: "Basically, they don’t want the VIP’s email address exposed to anyone, and want to be able to either strip out or replace the email address in the to/from fields in all of the emails we want to send out." Comey said he wasn't sure whether the FBI knew about the Reddit posting when prosecutors granted Combetta immunity to get statements from him about what transpired. However, he added that such a deletion wouldn't automatically be considered an effort to destroy evidence. "Not necessarily ... It would depend what his intention was and why he wanted to do it," the FBI director said.
FBI Director James Comey is passionately defending the integrity of the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email setup, arguing that critics are unfair to suggest that agents were biased or succumbed to political pressure. “You can call us wrong, but don’t call us weasels. We are not weasels,” Comey declared Wednesday at a House Judiciary Committee hearing. “We are honest people and … whether or not you agree with the result, this was done the way you want it to be done.”
The normally stoic FBI chief grew emotional and emphatic as he rejected claims from Republican lawmakers that the FBI was essentially in the tank for Clinton when it recommended that neither she nor any of her aides be prosecuted in connection with the presence of classified information on Clinton’s private email server. He acknowledged he has “no patience” for such allegations.
“I knew there were going to be all kinds of rocks thrown, but this organization and the people who did this are honest, independent people. We do not carry water for one side or the other — that’s hard for people to see because so much of our country, we see things through sides. … We are not on anybody’s side,” Comey said. “This was done exactly the way you would want it to do to be done.” It was at least Comey’s third appearance on Capitol Hill since the Clinton email probe was closed, but the FBI director’s assurances did not seem to satisfy House Republicans, who said the decision not to prosecute Clinton or her aides smacked of favoritism. “I would be in big trouble, and I should be in big trouble, if I did something like that,” said Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R-Wis.). “There seems to be different strokes for different folks. I think there’s a heavy hand coming from someplace else.” Comey insisted there is no double standard, though he said there would be serious consequences — short of criminal prosecution — if FBI personnel handled classified information as Clinton and her aides did. “Mary or Joe, if they did this in the FBI, would not be prosecuted,” the FBI director said. “They’d be in big trouble, but they would not be prosecuted. That wouldn’t be fair.” Republicans suggested there were numerous potential targets of prosecution in the case and repeatedly questioned prosecutors’ decisions to grant forms of immunity to at least five people in connection with the probe. “You cleaned the slate before you even knew. … You gave immunity to people that you were going to need to make a case if a case was to be made,” said Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-Texas). GOP lawmakers focused in particular on the Justice Department’s decision to give a form of immunity to Clinton lawyers Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson to obtain computers containing emails related to the case. “Laptops don’t go to the Bureau of Prisons,” Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) said. “The immunity was not for the laptop, it was for Cheryl Mills.” The FBI director repeated an explanation he gave for the first time at a Senate hearing Tuesday, that the deal to get the laptops was wise because subpoenaing computers from an attorney would be complex and time consuming. “Anytime you know you’re subpoenaing a laptop from a lawyer that involved a lawyer’s practice of law, you know you’re getting into a big megillah,” Comey said. Republicans also questioned why Mills and Samuelson were allowed to attend Clinton’s July 2 interview at FBI headquarters as her attorneys, given that they had been interviewed as witnesses in the email probe. “I don’t think there’s any reasonable prosecutor out there who would have allowed two immunized witnesses central to the prosecution and proving the case against her to sit in the room the FBI interview of the subject of that investigation,” said Rep. John Ratliffe (R-Ill.), a former U.S. attorney in Texas. He said those circumstances signaled that the decision not to prosecute Clinton was already made when she sat down for the interview. “If colleagues of ours believe I am lying about when I made this decision, please urge them to contact me privately so we can have a conversation about this,” Comey said. “The decision was made after that because I didn’t know what was going to happen during the interview. She would maybe lie in the interview in a way we could prove.” Comey also said it wasn’t the FBI’s role to dictate who could or couldn’t act as Clinton’s lawyers. “I would also urge you to tell me what tools we have as prosecutors and investigators to kick out of the interview someone that the subject says is their lawyer,” the FBI chief said, while acknowledging he’d never encountered such a situation before. Ratliffe said Clinton and the others should have been called to a grand jury, where no one is allowed to accompany the witness. Comey did say there was no chance of charges against Mills or Samuelson by the time of the Clinton interview. “We had already concluded we did not have prosecutable case against Cheryl Mills or Heather Samuelson at that point. If we they were targets of our investigation, maybe we would have canceled the interview,” the FBI director said. ‘Frankly, our focus was on the subject. The subject at that point was Hillary Clinton.” Despite the second-guessing from Republicans, Comey said he remained convinced that prosecution wasn’t even remotely appropriate given the facts. “As painful as this is for people, this was not a close call,” he said. “This was done by pros in the right way.”
If you want to debate trustworthiness, don't deny Trumps record, as limited info as we have on him. It seems like the near continual stream of lies out of his mouth should factor into trust. I may be talking crazy, though.
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The crazy thing is that Clinton and Trump are still neck and neck. What does that say about our candidates? The majority of us around here can agree that trump is garbage, we seem to agree there, however many of us around here don't seem to hold Clinton to the same standards. Are we that much different?
I think the truth is that we're taking a step backwards, in terms of the quality of individual we're about to elect.
Tons of dems/republicans aren't happy with their candidates, hence the consistent unfavorable ratings for these two candidates. But you're right at the end of the day people will probably vote along party lines. That was the case at my debate party. The republicans in the house, who were Cruz supporters and are constitutionalist, said they were going to vote for the clown because Clinton was worse.
This is Change in the sense that next time around we're going to see a different process, assuming progressives can actually influence a prez Clinton.
This election is far from over- and I think Trump still has a chance, how in hell can any politician survive his current campaign is beyond me, but they're still close and Clinton is very much disliked for her politics and her personal issues. It's Going to be very interesting to watch
Remember all that reddit bullshit about the guy trying to cover up an email address....here's why now shut up....
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
American public: we believe it, we really do, honest, trust us.
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I can now vote for Clinton.
Trump has his family (not sure if all of them are supporting him) and I think the former mayor of NY city.
Yet the race is neck and neck. Isn't that FUCKING INSANE?!?! Haha... Seriously- if there is one truth here it's that the American people are getting screwed (polls 70% unfavorable consistently for both Candidates).No vaseline either. I get some of you guys like it rough, but I'm speaking to the rest of us.
Now shut up! haha.. ( just had too)
a vote not cast in apathy is a vote cast for insanity!
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HUBBA HUBBA, lmao
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Chicago; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
CORRUPT BILLARY
But Enough about reality. Let's get back to policy.