I have to say, this news made me throw up. I don't think the Pope's a liberal, but - sheesh, it's like he met with Kim Kardashian. I was really into the Pope. And sure, I wish women were more active in the Catholic church and he didn't hate gay marriage, etc. But it's cool he cares about global warming and poor people.
I have to say, this news made me throw up. I don't think the Pope's a liberal, but - sheesh, it's like he met with Kim Kardashian. I was really into the Pope. And sure, I wish women were more active in the Catholic church and he didn't hate gay marriage, etc. But it's cool he cares about global warming and poor people.
But Kim Davis. *shudders*
A good smorgasbord of beliefs to try and connect with as many as possible: a good business practice.
I have to say, this news made me throw up. I don't think the Pope's a liberal, but - sheesh, it's like he met with Kim Kardashian. I was really into the Pope. And sure, I wish women were more active in the Catholic church and he didn't hate gay marriage, etc. But it's cool he cares about global warming and poor people.
I liked this from the article "Francis touched on the issue during a press conference as he flew back to Rome on Sunday, the Associated Press reported. He told reporters that he wasn’t familiar with details of the case but called conscientious objection a human right, even for government officials.
Ah, excuse the fuck me. Government officials follow the current law period. If not leave and change it.
Conscientious objection is a term traditionally referring to refusal to engage in conscripted military service due to personal beliefs. It doesn't apply here because no-one forced Davis to accept this particular job, and there are no penalties to her for leaving the job, other than financial. She's staying in a job for the money and objecting to completing parts of it; some conscientious objection.
my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
Agreed, government employees don't have the luxury of conscientious objection. Leave your crazy religious beliefs at the door or find yourself a new line of work
i understand conscientious objection if you refuse to go to war because you refuse to kill someone a la muhammad ali. he was drafted and refused, was stripped of his championship and his livelihood, and went to jail.
kim davis is an elected official who willingly ran for the position then decided not to do her job. which she has somehow managed to hang on to.
#popefail
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"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
I liked this from the article "Francis touched on the issue during a press conference as he flew back to Rome on Sunday, the Associated Press reported. He told reporters that he wasn’t familiar with details of the case but called conscientious objection a human right, even for government officials.
Ah, excuse the fuck me. Government officials follow the current law period. If not leave and change it.
except when anohter law says you can C.O. , so since that law requiring the signature of the elected clerk on the document, we wait til the states legislature reconvenes in January to address this discrepancy that occured after they were out of session for the year when SCOTUS handed down their ruling.
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i understand conscientious objection if you refuse to go to war because you refuse to kill someone a la muhammad ali. he was drafted and refused, was stripped of his championship and his livelihood, and went to jail.
kim davis is an elected official who willingly ran for the position then decided not to do her job. which she has somehow managed to hang on to.
#popefail
Ky RFRA allows gov officials to object and be covered. So until they make the necessary changes to the requirement of that officials sig on a document........like it or not , for the time being she IS following the law.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I have to say, this news made me throw up. I don't think the Pope's a liberal, but - sheesh, it's like he met with Kim Kardashian. I was really into the Pope. And sure, I wish women were more active in the Catholic church and he didn't hate gay marriage, etc. But it's cool he cares about global warming and poor people.
But Kim Davis. *shudders*
I agree. When I heard this on the news, I was in disbelief. If he was a more modern Pope he would have avoided her altogether. It is so crazy to me how there could still be that much intolerance in the world for gay marriage.
I liked this from the article "Francis touched on the issue during a press conference as he flew back to Rome on Sunday, the Associated Press reported. He told reporters that he wasn’t familiar with details of the case but called conscientious objection a human right, even for government officials.
Ah, excuse the fuck me. Government officials follow the current law period. If not leave and change it.
There is a pretty strong reaction to this news, which I'm sure the Pope will be made aware of... Perhaps this will be a lesson for him. Know exactly what the fuck is going on before meeting with random people who have a religious cause, because this guy is working so hard on the Church's PR campaign, and this has dragged it backwards. Whoopsie-daisies! What's next? Is he going to have tea with the Westboro gang? Anyway, I was not even a little bit surprised to hear this news. Not even a little bit. This Pope has everyone wrapped around his little finger, but you can only hide the truth for so long.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
I liked this from the article "Francis touched on the issue during a press conference as he flew back to Rome on Sunday, the Associated Press reported. He told reporters that he wasn’t familiar with details of the case but called conscientious objection a human right, even for government officials.
Ah, excuse the fuck me. Government officials follow the current law period. If not leave and change it.
There is a pretty strong reaction to this news, which I'm sure the Pope will be made aware of... Perhaps this will be a lesson for him. Know exactly what the fuck is going on before meeting with random people who have a religious cause, because this guy is working so hard on the Church's PR campaign, and this has dragged it backwards. Whoopsie-daisies! What's next? Is he going to have tea with the Westboro gang? Anyway, I was not even a little bit surprised to hear this news. Not even a little bit. This Pope has everyone wrapped around his little finger, but you can only hide the truth for so long.
Ha, I'm with you here. It has been funny watching people (even on this board) fawn over him like he himself was a messiah. He fucked up here. No surprise to me, he did a pretty good PR job for an organization that has been losing ground by being stuck in the past. He said some good things, but obviously still has some catching up to do. Like I've said previously, he's the most progressive pope I've seen in my lifetime, but that bar is pretty low.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Oh damn. I almost managed to forget about this beeotch.
Still spewing hate towards a good woman.
She's not a beach like you say. She was doing gods work, many others agree. There's a reason she's now free and back at work.. Because she didn't break a single law.
Pope Francis Met With Kim Davis, Kentucky County Clerk, in Washington
Sounds like the popes a good man. He told them they can't be married where he's from, shits still illegal there. But no one understood what he said. They just smiled and nodded. Heard this on msnbc this morning.
Oh damn. I almost managed to forget about this beeotch.
Still spewing hate towards a good woman.
She's not a beach like you say. She was doing gods work, many others agree. There's a reason she's now free and back at work.. Because she didn't break a single law.
Still say she's braver than mlk
You are right, there is a reason she's now free and back to work. That is because she agreed to stay out of the way of people legally getting married. She actually did violate a court order, and was rightly jailed for contempt of court. She's out now because she agreed that she wouldn't obstruct the other clerks from carrying out their duties. She was doing god's work? Perhaps she should have been doing the work for which she was hired/elected. If she wants to do god's work full time then she should quit her public job and become a full time missionary or evangelist.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Oh damn. I almost managed to forget about this beeotch.
Still spewing hate towards a good woman.
She's not a beach like you say. She was doing gods work, many others agree. There's a reason she's now free and back at work.. Because she didn't break a single law.
Still say she's braver than mlk
You are right, there is a reason she's now free and back to work. That is because she agreed to stay out of the way of people legally getting married. She actually did violate a court order, and was rightly jailed for contempt of court. She's out now because she agreed that she wouldn't obstruct the other clerks from carrying out their duties. She was doing god's work? Perhaps she should have been doing the work for which she was hired/elected. If she wants to do god's work full time then she should quit her public job and become a full time missionary or evangelist.
How dare you bring reason and the law into this, jeff.
PS to Enkidu - I was reading the linked article and an Ultimate Sex Guide via Esquire ad popped up. I shall continue my perusal of said article - later from home
Oh damn. I almost managed to forget about this beeotch.
Still spewing hate towards a good woman.
She's not a beach like you say. She was doing gods work, many others agree. There's a reason she's now free and back at work.. Because she didn't break a single law.
Still say she's braver than mlk
She is a raving lunatic of a megalomaniac and she isn't even in the same orbit as MLK and you should seriously be ashamed of yourself for stating that. At no time is she in danger of severe beatings/death because of a struggle to bring civil rights to people. She is using her biased bigotry to try and remove them. She is about as brave as the guy who shot MLK.
#current
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Anything you lose from being honest You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Oh damn. I almost managed to forget about this beeotch.
Still spewing hate towards a good woman.
She's not a beach like you say. She was doing gods work, many others agree. There's a reason she's now free and back at work.. Because she didn't break a single law.
Still say she's braver than mlk
She is a raving lunatic of a megalomaniac and she isn't even in the same orbit as MLK and you should seriously be ashamed of yourself for stating that. At no time is she in danger of severe beatings/death because of a struggle to bring civil rights to people. She is using her biased bigotry to try and remove them. She is about as brave as the guy who shot MLK.
Oh damn. I almost managed to forget about this beeotch.
Still spewing hate towards a good woman.
She's not a beach like you say. She was doing gods work, many others agree. There's a reason she's now free and back at work.. Because she didn't break a single law.
Still say she's braver than mlk
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
Still have not been answered by a particular poster. I guess it takes being a "bully" to elicit a response. Maybe I should go post in the victim thread.
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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http://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0930/731552-pope-gay-marriage/
But Kim Davis. *shudders*
"Francis touched on the issue during a press conference as he flew back to Rome on Sunday, the Associated Press reported. He told reporters that he wasn’t familiar with details of the case but called conscientious objection a human right, even for government officials.
Ah, excuse the fuck me. Government officials follow the current law period. If not leave and change it.
kim davis is an elected official who willingly ran for the position then decided not to do her job. which she has somehow managed to hang on to.
#popefail
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
See due process in action. Deal with it.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
http://9gag.com/gag/avLv2Ab?ref=fbp
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Anyway, I was not even a little bit surprised to hear this news. Not even a little bit. This Pope has everyone wrapped around his little finger, but you can only hide the truth for so long.
She's not a beach like you say. She was doing gods work, many others agree. There's a reason she's now free and back at work.. Because she didn't break a single law.
Still say she's braver than mlk
See even the pope agrees!!!
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a38440/pope-francis-swindled-kim-davis-meeting/
PS to Enkidu - I was reading the linked article and an Ultimate Sex Guide via Esquire ad popped up. I shall continue my perusal of said article - later from home
#current
You never really had to begin with.
Sometimes it's not the song that makes you emotional it's the people and things that come to your mind when you hear it.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."