Why Are Republicans At War With Reality?

rr165892

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

How and what Chinquia gets as a an entitlement is worthy of discussion and the crux of some of the divide at least in my leanings.

callen

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

Never said all were.


Many do. Look I know many republicans personally. Read republican literature. Read some republican leaning posts here. Come on. Really.

What's with all the light stepping around??? (Kat I edited myself on this line.).

rr165892

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Hypocricy!

rr165892

rgambs said:

I think this evasion of partisan politics is disingenuous. RR and Hedo, just because you don't like it, doesn't make it stop existing. There is a stark divide between the 2 parties and there is no viable middle option. You may not fall neatly into the Republican platform, but elected Republicans certainly do, anyone who votes for them empowers the party platform and votes for the things Gimme listed. You don't vote with your opinions, you vote with your vote.
It is also clear to anybody who is paying attention that there is a much greater diversity of ideas in the Democrat party than Republican. Republicans lockstep to the party line like lemmings.
We all know both parties suck, but they don't suck equally... Which sucks more depends on your worldview.
Interjecting the knowledge that people fall on a spectrum into every debate that involves the reality of partisan politics does nothing to further the discussion, and it hampers the flow of ideas around an issue.

Why do I have to fit neatly into one camp or the other Gambs? What we see and experience within our proffesional and personal lives shape these desciscions.Its going to look and feel different to all of us.I wouldn't say your wrong,it's what's right for you! So roll with it.Why do liberals leaning folks get their panties all wadded up over others doing the same?

jeffbr

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

Of course it is. But many of the extreme partisans here will not be able to recognize it, because they're, well, extreme partisans. It is funny the religious-like furvor some have adopted. It makes me question whether some dems really are able to be reasonable. I feel like we're at some sort of revival meeting and the dems are the path to salvation, and the reps are clearly the devil, and will lead to damnation and hell fire.

Me? I'll stick to principles and positions when making my decisions. I tend to vote more dem than rep these days, but dislike both parties, and if neither party puts up a candidate worth voting for I'm happy to throw my vote to the Libertarian candidate simply to send a message. These days the Republicans drive me crazy with their nutty platform, and their religious overtones, but it doesn't follow that voting for a candidate with an R next to his name means I support killing brown people. Insulting, irresponsible, and as crazy as anything Cruz has ever said.

callen

No not hypocrisy.

Sad truth.

JimmyV

People could say that Democrats and liberals just stand by and watch the administration they did vote for kill brown people. I know this because people have.

josevolution

All the points Gimmie posted are dead on there is no way the GOP can say otherwise it's been like this for the last 7 yrs ...they've opposed everything Obama has tried to put thru ...

rgambs

rr165892 said:

rgambs said:

I think this evasion of partisan politics is disingenuous. RR and Hedo, just because you don't like it, doesn't make it stop existing. There is a stark divide between the 2 parties and there is no viable middle option. You may not fall neatly into the Republican platform, but elected Republicans certainly do, anyone who votes for them empowers the party platform and votes for the things Gimme listed. You don't vote with your opinions, you vote with your vote.
It is also clear to anybody who is paying attention that there is a much greater diversity of ideas in the Democrat party than Republican. Republicans lockstep to the party line like lemmings.
We all know both parties suck, but they don't suck equally... Which sucks more depends on your worldview.
Interjecting the knowledge that people fall on a spectrum into every debate that involves the reality of partisan politics does nothing to further the discussion, and it hampers the flow of ideas around an issue.

Why do I have to fit neatly into one camp or the other Gambs? What we see and experience within our proffesional and personal lives shape these desciscions.Its going to look and feel different to all of us.I wouldn't say your wrong,it's what's right for you! So roll with it.Why do liberals leaning folks get their panties all wadded up over others doing the same?

You don't have to, and I wasn't suggesting so. What I am saying, is that if you vote for candidate who does fit neatly into one camp, you have to recognize what it is you are voting to support. Like I said, your vote is your vote, your opinion is not your vote.
Jeb is relatively moderate and not crazy like Cruz, but if he is put in power it empowers his party, Cruz included. Hillary is shite, but Hillary in power empowers folks like Kucinich and Warren as opposed to Cruz and Cotton.

Gern Blansten

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans...bet on it

Gern Blansten

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E48QqcTOXeY

lest we forget...

jeffbr

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans...bet on it

http://mediatrackers.org/national/2013/06/20/6-horribly-racist-comments-from-obama-admin-officials

rr165892

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans...bet on it

Cmon Gern,you know better then that.No rascist Dems huh? How about reverse rascism? Does that count.Or is rascism only Whites toward minorities?

Are there no southern Christians who are dems?Im sure they are all for gay marraige and immigration reform.
I know of Black folks who hate whites,Koreans and Haitians.I know Columbians who hate Cubans,Etc,etc.A lot of them are Obama followers.

So that statement is just plain ass wrong.And typical of the do no wrong attitude of many libs.

JimmyV

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans...bet on it

It wasn't too long ago that even some Democrats were implying other Democrats were racist:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7845.html

A series of comments from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, her husband and her supporters are spurring a racial backlash and adding a divisive edge to the presidential primary as the candidates head south to heavily African-American South Carolina.

The comments, which ranged from the New York senator appearing to diminish the role of Martin Luther King Jr. in the civil rights movement — an aide later said she misspoke — to Bill Clinton dismissing Sen. Barack Obama’s image in the media as a “fairy tale” — generated outrage on black radio, black blogs and cable television. And now they've drawn the attention of prominent African-American politicians.

“A cross-section of voters are alarmed at the tenor of some of these statements,” said Obama spokeswoman Candice Tolliver, who said that Clinton would have to decide whether she owed anyone an apology.

“There’s a groundswell of reaction to these comments — and not just these latest comments but really a pattern, or a series of comments that we’ve heard for several months,” she said. “Folks are beginning to wonder: Is this really an isolated situation, or is there something bigger behind all of this?”

HughFreakingDillon

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans...bet on it

any time someone says that "100% of (group A) has (insert behaviour/ideology)", it is always wrong.

Gern Blansten

rr165892 said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans...bet on it

Cmon Gern,you know better then that.No rascist Dems huh? How about reverse rascism? Does that count.Or is rascism only Whites toward minorities?

Are there no southern Christians who are dems?Im sure they are all for gay marraige and immigration reform.
I know of Black folks who hate whites,Koreans and Haitians.I know Columbians who hate Cubans,Etc,etc.A lot of them are Obama followers.

So that statement is just plain ass wrong.And typical of the do no wrong attitude of many libs.

I shouldn't have said "all"....maybe 99.9%

Jason P

Gern Blansten

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans...bet on it

It wasn't too long ago that even some Democrats were implying other Democrats were racist:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7845.html

A series of comments from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, her husband and her supporters are spurring a racial backlash and adding a divisive edge to the presidential primary as the candidates head south to heavily African-American South Carolina.

The comments, which ranged from the New York senator appearing to diminish the role of Martin Luther King Jr. in the civil rights movement — an aide later said she misspoke — to Bill Clinton dismissing Sen. Barack Obama’s image in the media as a “fairy tale” — generated outrage on black radio, black blogs and cable television. And now they've drawn the attention of prominent African-American politicians.

“A cross-section of voters are alarmed at the tenor of some of these statements,” said Obama spokeswoman Candice Tolliver, who said that Clinton would have to decide whether she owed anyone an apology.

“There’s a groundswell of reaction to these comments — and not just these latest comments but really a pattern, or a series of comments that we’ve heard for several months,” she said. “Folks are beginning to wonder: Is this really an isolated situation, or is there something bigger behind all of this?”

That article is an example of racist dems? That's laughable....piss your pants laughable

JimmyV

Gern Blansten said:

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans...bet on it

It wasn't too long ago that even some Democrats were implying other Democrats were racist:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7845.html

A series of comments from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, her husband and her supporters are spurring a racial backlash and adding a divisive edge to the presidential primary as the candidates head south to heavily African-American South Carolina.

The comments, which ranged from the New York senator appearing to diminish the role of Martin Luther King Jr. in the civil rights movement — an aide later said she misspoke — to Bill Clinton dismissing Sen. Barack Obama’s image in the media as a “fairy tale” — generated outrage on black radio, black blogs and cable television. And now they've drawn the attention of prominent African-American politicians.

“A cross-section of voters are alarmed at the tenor of some of these statements,” said Obama spokeswoman Candice Tolliver, who said that Clinton would have to decide whether she owed anyone an apology.

“There’s a groundswell of reaction to these comments — and not just these latest comments but really a pattern, or a series of comments that we’ve heard for several months,” she said. “Folks are beginning to wonder: Is this really an isolated situation, or is there something bigger behind all of this?”

That article is an example of racist dems? That's laughable....piss your pants laughable

Piss away.

This thread is not doing the Democratic Party any favors.

jeffbr

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

JimmyV said:

Gern Blansten said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

callen said:

BS44325 said:

callen said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

callen said:

rgambs said:

Dirtie_Frank said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

hedonist said:

Are you talking about Republicans as politicians or as the average Joe?

Likely a big difference, gimme.

And hopefully you're not talking about all, either way.

does it matter?

when i talk about "republicans" i refer to the elected ones. but those who vote for them are just as wrong because they are still on the wrong side of the issue.

do your average rank and file republican still vote for incumbent republicans?

yes they do.

care to address the contrast between the positions, or just try to discredit my post by pointing out a generalization?

So unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong? Isn't that a constructive point of view. Hey let's just get rid of the the Republican party and let the Democrats run everything? The democrats have a delusion of reality just as much as the republicans.

Yes, in a way, unless you are a liberal democrat you are wrong... Do you know why?
Because this is supposed to be a democracy, the majority of the people are supposed to be represented by their elected officials. If the people have a will, it is the job of our government to enact that will.
In all the issues Gimme mentioned, there is a consensus, a majority opinion which should be upheld by the people we elect to do so. They aren't doing so because of money in politics, and because of a regressive, neolithic, greed driven group of individuals who have hijacked one of our parties, and use the checks and balances of government to oppose all progress.

And democrats/liberals don't go to the polls like those that want to kill brown people, impose their belief system on rest of us, export all the illegals that support republican business's(though republican politicians have no real interest of doing so) and ensure Chiniqua doesn't get that entitlement.

So now if you don't vote liberal/democrat you want to kill brown people? What the fuck are you people on?

Come on now you're really surprised?

Many do.

Iran. Iraq. Evil doers. Only good Muslim is a dead Muslim.

This is beyond juvenile.

Really BS? Heck who's wanting to bomb Iran? Middle East?

saying all republicans are racist is a stretch to say the least. i'd call it irresponsible.

not all republicans are racist but all racists are republicans...bet on it

It wasn't too long ago that even some Democrats were implying other Democrats were racist:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7845.html

A series of comments from Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, her husband and her supporters are spurring a racial backlash and adding a divisive edge to the presidential primary as the candidates head south to heavily African-American South Carolina.

The comments, which ranged from the New York senator appearing to diminish the role of Martin Luther King Jr. in the civil rights movement — an aide later said she misspoke — to Bill Clinton dismissing Sen. Barack Obama’s image in the media as a “fairy tale” — generated outrage on black radio, black blogs and cable television. And now they've drawn the attention of prominent African-American politicians.

“A cross-section of voters are alarmed at the tenor of some of these statements,” said Obama spokeswoman Candice Tolliver, who said that Clinton would have to decide whether she owed anyone an apology.

“There’s a groundswell of reaction to these comments — and not just these latest comments but really a pattern, or a series of comments that we’ve heard for several months,” she said. “Folks are beginning to wonder: Is this really an isolated situation, or is there something bigger behind all of this?”

That article is an example of racist dems? That's laughable....piss your pants laughable

Piss away.

This thread is not doing the Democratic Party any favors.

I suspect it is similar to a skunk not being able to smell its own scent. Or a bunch of people all eating garlic, won't be offended by others' garlic breath. Perhaps dogmatic Dems are not able to recognize or acknowledge racism in other Dems. As far as I can tell racism isn't a partisan issue. It is alive and well in both parties, and likely has more to do with demographics in terms of geography and upbringing. As RR pointed out, Southern Christian Democrats were about as racist as they came, and it was pretty institutionalized.