I had a whole thing written and just pushed 'delete'. Callen, you're right: I come here to learn about topics, not about board members (no offence). It'd be nice to see this return to the topic at hand.
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EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Yeah it seems true there is a clique that has developed here ...
A clique might have also been assigned. Most so-called members of Team Conservative didn't even know there was such a thing until the assignments were made by various posters not on said team. I haven't seen the roster yet, so I'm not sure who exactly is on the team, but surely somebody making the assignments can publish the list. And if there's a Team Conservative, there are probably other teams, especially if we've got some sort of AMT league competition happening.
I'd personally like to see any cliques go away, and judge each post on its own merits. But almost every post in this forum carries with it the baggage of the poster, and all of that poster's previous posts. So it is inevitable that labels get created, healthy or not.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
Hmmm a clique? I dunno about that. I would say that those of us who frequent the Lounge Car tend to stick up for each other, we have real friendships happening. That being said, Brian and I are very liberal, RR and Hedo are more conservative, and other folks are in between. If it's a clique it's a diverse one, and I am proud to be in it.
Hmmm a clique? I dunno about that. I would say that those of us who frequent the Lounge Car tend to stick up for each other, we have real friendships happening. That being said, Brian and I are very liberal, RR and Hedo are more conservative, and other folks are in between. If it's a clique it's a diverse one, and I am proud to be in it.
Amen, brother.
And, I'd say that my conservatism is more inclined toward fiscal, criminal, etc. - if that makes sense. I'm pretty liberal on the social front - believe rr is as well (but won't presume to speak on his behalf).
Hmmm a clique? I dunno about that. I would say that those of us who frequent the Lounge Car tend to stick up for each other, we have real friendships happening. That being said, Brian and I are very liberal, RR and Hedo are more conservative, and other folks are in between. If it's a clique it's a diverse one, and I am proud to be in it.
Amen, brother.
And, I'd say that my conservatism is more inclined toward fiscal, criminal, etc. - if that makes sense. I'm pretty liberal on the social front - believe rr is as well (but won't presume to speak on his behalf).
Hmmm a clique? I dunno about that. I would say that those of us who frequent the Lounge Car tend to stick up for each other, we have real friendships happening. That being said, Brian and I are very liberal, RR and Hedo are more conservative, and other folks are in between. If it's a clique it's a diverse one, and I am proud to be in it.
Amen, brother.
And, I'd say that my conservatism is more inclined toward fiscal, criminal, etc. - if that makes sense. I'm pretty liberal on the social front - believe rr is as well (but won't presume to speak on his behalf).
No you both are socially liberal for sure
Can't we all just be labelled as fiscally, criminally and socially human?
As an aside, I'm curious as to where on the spectrum you'd place me - I feel liberal but never really thought much about it.
'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Hmmm a clique? I dunno about that. I would say that those of us who frequent the Lounge Car tend to stick up for each other, we have real friendships happening. That being said, Brian and I are very liberal, RR and Hedo are more conservative, and other folks are in between. If it's a clique it's a diverse one, and I am proud to be in it.
To each their own rgambs. The only issue I have with it is "tend to stick up for each other". That can be both good or bad. I don't want anyone to be offended by me pointing that out but at times it could be isolating to other members. Food for thought.
Hmmm a clique? I dunno about that. I would say that those of us who frequent the Lounge Car tend to stick up for each other, we have real friendships happening. That being said, Brian and I are very liberal, RR and Hedo are more conservative, and other folks are in between. If it's a clique it's a diverse one, and I am proud to be in it.
To each their own rgambs. The only issue I have with it is "tend to stick up for each other". That can be both good or bad. I don't want anyone to be offended by me pointing that out but at times it could be isolating to other members. Food for thought.
Please keep in mind it's not done blindly or thoughtlessly - and I wouldn't even call it a clique. That's never been my thing, even as a kid...just drawn to different kinds of folks, usually with a similar core.
So many people here whom I hold in high regard and genuinely like, yet we are able to exchange different thoughts respectfully, and perhaps, in the end, disagree in the same manner.
Hmmm a clique? I dunno about that. I would say that those of us who frequent the Lounge Car tend to stick up for each other, we have real friendships happening. That being said, Brian and I are very liberal, RR and Hedo are more conservative, and other folks are in between. If it's a clique it's a diverse one, and I am proud to be in it.
To each their own rgambs. The only issue I have with it is "tend to stick up for each other". That can be both good or bad. I don't want anyone to be offended by me pointing that out but at times it could be isolating to other members. Food for thought.
Um, the term that I believe Callen or gambs coined it was "gang bang" because the said clique has ganged up on me before. This has become a constant thing, kind of like a certain clique denying reality (as in the gang bang). Wasn't that supposed to be republicans? Oh, wait…
Hedonist said:
Please keep in mind it's not done blindly or thoughtlessly - and I wouldn't even call it a clique.
Riiiiiight. Should I go and post all the times you've piggybacked someone else's (of your clique) attempt at insulting me?
Yeah it seems true there is a clique that has developed here ...
I'd personally like to see any cliques go away, and judge each post on its own merits. But almost every post in this forum carries with it the baggage of the poster, and all of that poster's previous posts. So it is inevitable that labels get created, healthy or not.
Yeah it seems true there is a clique that has developed here ...
I'd personally like to see any cliques go away, and judge each post on its own merits. But almost every post in this forum carries with it the baggage of the poster, and all of that poster's previous posts. So it is inevitable that labels get created, healthy or not.
I think it's safe to say most of us, except the clique, would like that.
This is getting silly. Despite what you may think you observe, many of us defend posts, not posters. Few of us unequivocally accept what even our best friends say, and I can honestly say that I don't think I've observed two members here who are 100% aligned in all opinions - friendship or not.
A clique excludes people - everyone on here encouraged me to speak up. I haven't been active on AMT for more than a year, yet have felt welcomed with open arms from day one.
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'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Yeah it seems true there is a clique that has developed here ...
A clique might have also been assigned. Most so-called members of Team Conservative didn't even know there was such a thing until the assignments were made by various posters not on said team. I haven't seen the roster yet, so I'm not sure who exactly is on the team, but surely somebody making the assignments can publish the list. And if there's a Team Conservative, there are probably other teams, especially if we've got some sort of AMT league competition happening.
I'd personally like to see any cliques go away, and judge each post on its own merits. But almost every post in this forum carries with it the baggage of the poster, and all of that poster's previous posts. So it is inevitable that labels get created, healthy or not.
I am a proud member of the Freedom Sheep. This was made clear a long time ago.
Yeah it seems true there is a clique that has developed here ...
A clique might have also been assigned. Most so-called members of Team Conservative didn't even know there was such a thing until the assignments were made by various posters not on said team. I haven't seen the roster yet, so I'm not sure who exactly is on the team, but surely somebody making the assignments can publish the list. And if there's a Team Conservative, there are probably other teams, especially if we've got some sort of AMT league competition happening.
I'd personally like to see any cliques go away, and judge each post on its own merits. But almost every post in this forum carries with it the baggage of the poster, and all of that poster's previous posts. So it is inevitable that labels get created, healthy or not.
I am a proud member of the Freedom Sheep. This was made clear a long time ago.
Yeah it seems true there is a clique that has developed here ...
A clique might have also been assigned. Most so-called members of Team Conservative didn't even know there was such a thing until the assignments were made by various posters not on said team. I haven't seen the roster yet, so I'm not sure who exactly is on the team, but surely somebody making the assignments can publish the list. And if there's a Team Conservative, there are probably other teams, especially if we've got some sort of AMT league competition happening.
I'd personally like to see any cliques go away, and judge each post on its own merits. But almost every post in this forum carries with it the baggage of the poster, and all of that poster's previous posts. So it is inevitable that labels get created, healthy or not.
I am a proud member of the Freedom Sheep. This was made clear a long time ago.
Yeah it seems true there is a clique that has developed here ...
A clique might have also been assigned. Most so-called members of Team Conservative didn't even know there was such a thing until the assignments were made by various posters not on said team. I haven't seen the roster yet, so I'm not sure who exactly is on the team, but surely somebody making the assignments can publish the list. And if there's a Team Conservative, there are probably other teams, especially if we've got some sort of AMT league competition happening.
I'd personally like to see any cliques go away, and judge each post on its own merits. But almost every post in this forum carries with it the baggage of the poster, and all of that poster's previous posts. So it is inevitable that labels get created, healthy or not.
I am a proud member of the Freedom Sheep. This was made clear a long time ago.
Well, since those who have a problem with me won't step up to the plate, I will just continue to post and wait for the next personal dig...
I have agreed with you. I have disagreed with you. What I take issue with is the trolling. The baiting. The "are you getting defensive", calling people names, telling people to wake the fuck up, , labelling people, making it seem as tho everyone who disagrees with you is an ignorant dumbass. all that disrespectful bullshit. That is the definition of trolling, seriously, looking to get a rise out of someone, and when it failed, and you were owned, you turned tail and ran. It was funny to me. because you deserved it. You play the victim when almost always you are the instigator.
You even admitted a while back that you will argue any side just to argue. That is the very definition of trolling.
I never agree with anyone on here 100% of the time. There are no cliques on the train. Maybe on the porch and on lost dogs, but not on amt, in my opinion. At least not with me. I dont give a fuck who you or anyone insults, i will always take issue with it.
I was kind of a hothead on here long ago, and i learned my lesson. A few time outs will do that. A few more self imposed also worked wonders.
Just discuss the issue and stop acting like an ass. You seem very intelligent. So use it to your advantage. Youd be amazed at the discussions you can have when its respectful. People listen to people they respect. Just saying, that im not certain as to how much of that you currently have right now. We all lose our cool now and then. Just keep it the exception and not the norm.
Hmmm a clique? I dunno about that. I would say that those of us who frequent the Lounge Car tend to stick up for each other, we have real friendships happening. That being said, Brian and I are very liberal, RR and Hedo are more conservative, and other folks are in between. If it's a clique it's a diverse one, and I am proud to be in it.
Amen, brother.
And, I'd say that my conservatism is more inclined toward fiscal, criminal, etc. - if that makes sense. I'm pretty liberal on the social front - believe rr is as well (but won't presume to speak on his behalf).
100% correct Hedo.(Great minds.lol)
And I would say the lounge is the Clique.Its hard not to feel close to fellow loungers since it's the one place on the Train that's just all about truth and openness and good vibes with genuine sincerity.An oasis from all the other noise.Its def my favorite.
But I also think we all belong to same Clique.Of all the destinations on the interwebs,we all come here,to a rock bands web site forum.When you think about it ,it really does give us all very much in common,no matter what our differences in opinion on individual issues or conversations.
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EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
I'd personally like to see any cliques go away, and judge each post on its own merits. But almost every post in this forum carries with it the baggage of the poster, and all of that poster's previous posts. So it is inevitable that labels get created, healthy or not.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
I dunno about that. I would say that those of us who frequent the Lounge Car tend to stick up for each other, we have real friendships happening. That being said, Brian and I are very liberal, RR and Hedo are more conservative, and other folks are in between.
If it's a clique it's a diverse one, and I am proud to be in it.
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I'm also on board with the preceding posts.
And, I'd say that my conservatism is more inclined toward fiscal, criminal, etc. - if that makes sense. I'm pretty liberal on the social front - believe rr is as well (but won't presume to speak on his behalf).
As an aside, I'm curious as to where on the spectrum you'd place me - I feel liberal but never really thought much about it.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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I'm outta here. Check in tomorrow to see if I again am able to debate issues.
So many people here whom I hold in high regard and genuinely like, yet we are able to exchange different thoughts respectfully, and perhaps, in the end, disagree in the same manner.
No rancor.
Hedonist said: Riiiiiight. Should I go and post all the times you've piggybacked someone else's (of your clique) attempt at insulting me?
Just thought I would step up to the plate to say that.
A clique excludes people - everyone on here encouraged me to speak up. I haven't been active on AMT for more than a year, yet have felt welcomed with open arms from day one.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
Baaaaaa
You even admitted a while back that you will argue any side just to argue. That is the very definition of trolling.
I never agree with anyone on here 100% of the time. There are no cliques on the train. Maybe on the porch and on lost dogs, but not on amt, in my opinion. At least not with me. I dont give a fuck who you or anyone insults, i will always take issue with it.
I was kind of a hothead on here long ago, and i learned my lesson. A few time outs will do that. A few more self imposed also worked wonders.
Just discuss the issue and stop acting like an ass. You seem very intelligent. So use it to your advantage. Youd be amazed at the discussions you can have when its respectful. People listen to people they respect. Just saying, that im not certain as to how much of that you currently have right now. We all lose our cool now and then. Just keep it the exception and not the norm.
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And I would say the lounge is the Clique.Its hard not to feel close to fellow loungers since it's the one place on the Train that's just all about truth and openness and good vibes with genuine sincerity.An oasis from all the other noise.Its def my favorite.
But I also think we all belong to same Clique.Of all the destinations on the interwebs,we all come here,to a rock bands web site forum.When you think about it ,it really does give us all very much in common,no matter what our differences in opinion on individual issues or conversations.
Also everyone you do realize that it takes two to tango right.
Okay just have to get this train back on the rails. Okay.
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