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all speeches in front of AIPAC, Arkansas Bill, Ws and Obama. I wonder why the last 4 presidents since 1992 (maybe even before that) all pledge Jerusalem to AIPAC?
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Are you familiar with the term, “pander?”JC29856 said:all speeches in front of AIPAC, Arkansas Bill, Ws and Obama. I wonder why the last 4 presidents since 1992 (maybe even before that) all pledge Jerusalem to AIPAC?
The naïveté is thick.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Are we forgetting that such a move was conditional on compromises with the Palestinians?JC29856 said:all speeches in front of AIPAC, Arkansas Bill, Ws and Obama. I wonder why the last 4 presidents since 1992 (maybe even before that) all pledge Jerusalem to AIPAC?
Now it's simply been done unilaterally, without concessions from the Palestinians. In fact, served to inflame the region even.
It's almost as though you have no concept of perspective or context. With a short-term memory and tunnel vision to boot.
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Or that s/he voted Trump and owns this shit show but somehow is just a hurt Bernie Bro. I find it laughable. Actually, quite entertaining.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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1 dead already over there hey JC you still think nothing will come from this genious move on orange bafoon's part ?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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What did I misrepresent? Did I say they were moving the embassy? No I did not. I said they recognized Jerusalem as the capital and posted the link. It is not where an embassy is located that is critical...it is the recognition that the Jerusalem is the historical capital of Israel which is critical. It is that reality that rejectionists have trouble coping with. It is that reality which bursts the narrative. I am glad you have accepted the reality of Jerusalem being the Israeli capital though and are now only concerned with embassy location.mickeyrat said:
whatever HIS motive is , re-enforces the lesson to me to utilize critical thought with everything.Halifax2TheMax said:
The Professor re-educating and misrepresenting? You don't say?mickeyrat said:from the j post bs provided...
In a statement on its Foreign Ministry’s web site, it said, “The Czech Republic currently, before the peace between Israel and Palestine is signed, recognizes Jerusalem to be in fact the capital of Israel in the borders of the demarcation line from 1967.”
“The Czech Republic together with other EU member states, following the EU Foreign Affaires Council Conclusions, considers Jerusalem to be future capital of both states, meaning the State of Israel and the future State of Palestine.”
In so doing, it took an unusual step of breaking with EU member states who hold Jerusalem should not recognized as Israel’s capital until a final status agreement is reached.
But unlike the US, the Czech Foreign Ministry also said that it would only consider relocating its embassy based on results of negotiations.
so yes, back to 67 lines, capital of both states and no moving UNTIL negotiations are finished to reflect the 2 state solution.0 -
Nice to see you’ve learned Afrikaans. Being pro apartheid and all.BS44325 said:
What did I misrepresent? Did I say they were moving the embassy? No I did not. I said they recognized Jerusalem as the capital and posted the link. It is not where an embassy is located that is critical...it is the recognition that the Jerusalem is the historical capital of Israel which is critical. It is that reality that rejectionists have trouble coping with. It is that reality which bursts the narrative. I am glad you have accepted the reality of Jerusalem being the Israeli capital though and are now only concerned with embassy location.mickeyrat said:
whatever HIS motive is , re-enforces the lesson to me to utilize critical thought with everything.Halifax2TheMax said:
The Professor re-educating and misrepresenting? You don't say?mickeyrat said:from the j post bs provided...
In a statement on its Foreign Ministry’s web site, it said, “The Czech Republic currently, before the peace between Israel and Palestine is signed, recognizes Jerusalem to be in fact the capital of Israel in the borders of the demarcation line from 1967.”
“The Czech Republic together with other EU member states, following the EU Foreign Affaires Council Conclusions, considers Jerusalem to be future capital of both states, meaning the State of Israel and the future State of Palestine.”
In so doing, it took an unusual step of breaking with EU member states who hold Jerusalem should not recognized as Israel’s capital until a final status agreement is reached.
But unlike the US, the Czech Foreign Ministry also said that it would only consider relocating its embassy based on results of negotiations.
so yes, back to 67 lines, capital of both states and no moving UNTIL negotiations are finished to reflect the 2 state solution.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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Lieflike DagHalifax2TheMax said:
Nice to see you’ve learned Afrikaans. Being pro apartheid and all.BS44325 said:
What did I misrepresent? Did I say they were moving the embassy? No I did not. I said they recognized Jerusalem as the capital and posted the link. It is not where an embassy is located that is critical...it is the recognition that the Jerusalem is the historical capital of Israel which is critical. It is that reality that rejectionists have trouble coping with. It is that reality which bursts the narrative. I am glad you have accepted the reality of Jerusalem being the Israeli capital though and are now only concerned with embassy location.mickeyrat said:
whatever HIS motive is , re-enforces the lesson to me to utilize critical thought with everything.Halifax2TheMax said:
The Professor re-educating and misrepresenting? You don't say?mickeyrat said:from the j post bs provided...
In a statement on its Foreign Ministry’s web site, it said, “The Czech Republic currently, before the peace between Israel and Palestine is signed, recognizes Jerusalem to be in fact the capital of Israel in the borders of the demarcation line from 1967.”
“The Czech Republic together with other EU member states, following the EU Foreign Affaires Council Conclusions, considers Jerusalem to be future capital of both states, meaning the State of Israel and the future State of Palestine.”
In so doing, it took an unusual step of breaking with EU member states who hold Jerusalem should not recognized as Israel’s capital until a final status agreement is reached.
But unlike the US, the Czech Foreign Ministry also said that it would only consider relocating its embassy based on results of negotiations.
so yes, back to 67 lines, capital of both states and no moving UNTIL negotiations are finished to reflect the 2 state solution.0 -
I accept they claim Jerusalem as their capital. I dont accept it as a foregone conclusion as a starting point in negotiations.BS44325 said:
What did I misrepresent? Did I say they were moving the embassy? No I did not. I said they recognized Jerusalem as the capital and posted the link. It is not where an embassy is located that is critical...it is the recognition that the Jerusalem is the historical capital of Israel which is critical. It is that reality that rejectionists have trouble coping with. It is that reality which bursts the narrative. I am glad you have accepted the reality of Jerusalem being the Israeli capital though and are now only concerned with embassy location.mickeyrat said:
whatever HIS motive is , re-enforces the lesson to me to utilize critical thought with everything.Halifax2TheMax said:
The Professor re-educating and misrepresenting? You don't say?mickeyrat said:from the j post bs provided...
In a statement on its Foreign Ministry’s web site, it said, “The Czech Republic currently, before the peace between Israel and Palestine is signed, recognizes Jerusalem to be in fact the capital of Israel in the borders of the demarcation line from 1967.”
“The Czech Republic together with other EU member states, following the EU Foreign Affaires Council Conclusions, considers Jerusalem to be future capital of both states, meaning the State of Israel and the future State of Palestine.”
In so doing, it took an unusual step of breaking with EU member states who hold Jerusalem should not recognized as Israel’s capital until a final status agreement is reached.
But unlike the US, the Czech Foreign Ministry also said that it would only consider relocating its embassy based on results of negotiations.
so yes, back to 67 lines, capital of both states and no moving UNTIL negotiations are finished to reflect the 2 state solution.
Palestinians have an equal claim that in fairness should be recognised as well. only difference is Palestinians claim East Jerusalm as their capital. not the entire city.
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Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
Yep no violence like BS & JC believe nothing will happen ...
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I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
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Off course you believe that his decision to proclaim it the capital would result on both sides coming to the peace table , I guess a few bombs will get the talks to start ...BS44325 said:
I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
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No, this is what you said, “So the idea that this decision will trigger anything is simply ridiculous.” Man, are you slippery. Can you ever say what you really mean and not express your opinions in double speak?BS44325 said:
I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
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The peace process has been dead for a long time Jose. It has been dead because the rejectionists refuse to embrace reality. This is a much needed dose of reality. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be violence but it does put pressure on some to capitulate as with time a new status quo develops and negotiating opportunities disappear. Silently the leaders of the Sunni world are embracing Israel under threat from Iran and the Palestinian cause is being left behind. A new normal is beginning and this decision symbolizes that.josevolution said:
Off course you believe that his decision to proclaim it the capital would result on both sides coming to the peace table , I guess a few bombs will get the talks to start ...BS44325 said:
I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
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oh so you are saying the Palestinians should placidly subjugate themselves into Aparthied.BS44325 said:
The peace process has been dead for a long time Jose. It has been dead because the rejectionists refuse to embrace reality. This is a much needed dose of reality. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be violence but it does put pressure on some to capitulate as with time a new status quo develops and negotiating opportunities disappear. Silently the leaders of the Sunni world are embracing Israel under threat from Iran and the Palestinian cause is being left behind. A new normal is beginning and this decision symbolizes that.josevolution said:
Off course you believe that his decision to proclaim it the capital would result on both sides coming to the peace table , I guess a few bombs will get the talks to start ...BS44325 said:
I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
Yep no violence like BS & JC believe nothing will happen ...
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No. I am saying there is no Apartheid.mickeyrat said:
oh so you are saying the Palestinians should placidly subjugate themselves into Aparthied.BS44325 said:
The peace process has been dead for a long time Jose. It has been dead because the rejectionists refuse to embrace reality. This is a much needed dose of reality. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be violence but it does put pressure on some to capitulate as with time a new status quo develops and negotiating opportunities disappear. Silently the leaders of the Sunni world are embracing Israel under threat from Iran and the Palestinian cause is being left behind. A new normal is beginning and this decision symbolizes that.josevolution said:
Off course you believe that his decision to proclaim it the capital would result on both sides coming to the peace table , I guess a few bombs will get the talks to start ...BS44325 said:
I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
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oh, acquiesce to the drip drip drip of ethinc cleaning/BS44325 said:
No. I am saying there is no Apartheid.mickeyrat said:
oh so you are saying the Palestinians should placidly subjugate themselves into Aparthied.BS44325 said:
The peace process has been dead for a long time Jose. It has been dead because the rejectionists refuse to embrace reality. This is a much needed dose of reality. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be violence but it does put pressure on some to capitulate as with time a new status quo develops and negotiating opportunities disappear. Silently the leaders of the Sunni world are embracing Israel under threat from Iran and the Palestinian cause is being left behind. A new normal is beginning and this decision symbolizes that.josevolution said:
Off course you believe that his decision to proclaim it the capital would result on both sides coming to the peace table , I guess a few bombs will get the talks to start ...BS44325 said:
I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
Yep no violence like BS & JC believe nothing will happen ...
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There is no ethnic cleansing either.mickeyrat said:
oh, acquiesce to the drip drip drip of ethinc cleaning/BS44325 said:
No. I am saying there is no Apartheid.mickeyrat said:
oh so you are saying the Palestinians should placidly subjugate themselves into Aparthied.BS44325 said:
The peace process has been dead for a long time Jose. It has been dead because the rejectionists refuse to embrace reality. This is a much needed dose of reality. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be violence but it does put pressure on some to capitulate as with time a new status quo develops and negotiating opportunities disappear. Silently the leaders of the Sunni world are embracing Israel under threat from Iran and the Palestinian cause is being left behind. A new normal is beginning and this decision symbolizes that.josevolution said:
Off course you believe that his decision to proclaim it the capital would result on both sides coming to the peace table , I guess a few bombs will get the talks to start ...BS44325 said:
I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
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You must be an investor in those West Bank and Gaza Strip toxic waste dumps and landfills.BS44325 said:
There is no ethnic cleansing either.mickeyrat said:
oh, acquiesce to the drip drip drip of ethinc cleaning/BS44325 said:
No. I am saying there is no Apartheid.mickeyrat said:
oh so you are saying the Palestinians should placidly subjugate themselves into Aparthied.BS44325 said:
The peace process has been dead for a long time Jose. It has been dead because the rejectionists refuse to embrace reality. This is a much needed dose of reality. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be violence but it does put pressure on some to capitulate as with time a new status quo develops and negotiating opportunities disappear. Silently the leaders of the Sunni world are embracing Israel under threat from Iran and the Palestinian cause is being left behind. A new normal is beginning and this decision symbolizes that.josevolution said:
Off course you believe that his decision to proclaim it the capital would result on both sides coming to the peace table , I guess a few bombs will get the talks to start ...BS44325 said:
I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
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Ok tell us what reality you speak of ? As far as I see it the Palestinians have been treated like subhumans for a while ! So if your idea of new normal is to just take take take from them to just swallow it ..BS44325 said:
The peace process has been dead for a long time Jose. It has been dead because the rejectionists refuse to embrace reality. This is a much needed dose of reality. This doesn’t mean that there won’t be violence but it does put pressure on some to capitulate as with time a new status quo develops and negotiating opportunities disappear. Silently the leaders of the Sunni world are embracing Israel under threat from Iran and the Palestinian cause is being left behind. A new normal is beginning and this decision symbolizes that.josevolution said:
Off course you believe that his decision to proclaim it the capital would result on both sides coming to the peace table , I guess a few bombs will get the talks to start ...BS44325 said:
I didn’t say there wouldn’t be violence. I said that there was violence before and that there will be violence after. The sillyness is to suggest that this decision will result in violence that was previously absent. The violence will always be and governments should act based on what they belive is right and not cower under threat of an already violent and rejectionist opposition.josevolution said:Israel Carries Out Airstrikes on Hamas Following Fire From Gaza - The Wall Street Journal https://apple.news/AHR6GBnwbQoaTsI2EYTSOLg
Yep no violence like BS & JC believe nothing will happen ...jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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