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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    So, you admit that you're a war monger? Truth be told.

    How so?
    You rely on the warmongering rag Weekly Standard to "confirm" your beliefs. You know, the same publication that has been beating the war drums to bomb Iran. The same warmongering rag that beat the war drums for the war in Iraq. The same warmongering rag that has Neo-cons and Neo-con think tanks as contributors who also beat the war drums the loudest and incessantly for both the war in Iraq and now for a war with Iran. The same warmongering rag that probably gave George the term "Axis of Evil" and Condi, "we can't allow the smoking gun to be in the form of a mushroom cloud."

    What's the reason this week?
    By reporting on Hezbollah's perceptions of "the deal" the article confirms my belief that this will likely be seen as a sign of american capitulation and weakness. Hezbollah recognizes as much as I do that sanctions will pretty much be lifted without any changes in Iranian behaviour. They will use this as reason to be more aggressive in the region. Does this mean it is time for war? No. But it does mean "the deal" might not be as fantastic as you hope.
    Wow, you really are taken with propaganda. What was Hezbollah supposed to say? "Ah shit fuck, those Zionist, socialist, communist, Kenyan Americans and their western lackeys really beat us up bad, rubbed our noses in it and told us who's boss. Guess we're gonna have to comply with every western demand now an roll over because we really suck." Of course they're going to couch the outcome as one of "winning" and it benefitting them at home and in the region. Hezbollah has it's own separate agenda and has the most to loose with Iran working toward a nuclear agreement, eventual peace and joining the "western, 'civilized' world."

    To what end does "being more aggressive in the region" benefit Iran and to what end. Spare me the destruction of Israel mantra. Please.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:

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    Canada can also pick up the tab of the $3 billion a year the US sends to Israel anytime, please, we have budget deficits and a huge debt crisis over here south of your border.

    We send a lot to Israel. Harper and Bibi are tight.
    A lot like $3 billion or a lot like 70 advisors to Iraq? Or a lot like one ship?
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  • callen
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    BS44325 said:

    callen said:

    BS44325 said:

    . They are without a doubt sponsors of terror and they without a doubt do seek regional hegemony. Allowing this to proceed poses great risk.

    You have ZERO risk. Where is your fear derived? You have Canada, the US protecting your cushy little existence.

    In the history of man you BS are probably the least threatened by anything. Lowest risk ever by any human group. Opposing forces, disease, famine, country taking you out with a bomb. You fucking have it made.

    This is not the case for those in IRAN BTW.

    You are being threatened by NOBODY other than YOUR own fear.

    Get real.
    I don't feel scared so not really understanding this line of attack either.
    BS, I'm not attacking just trying to put some perspective in your personal safety, myself included. Interested in human history and look how fkn lucky we are and when I read posts on Iranian threat or risk I'm blown away at our lack of understanding that we have the best weapons, we have the money, we have the powerful friends. We are more Secure than any humans in history. Not The case for those in Middle East that are perceived to be the threat as pounded into our brains by the media. Imagine how you would feel if you were an Iranian ordinary citizen and had the threat of the US beat over your head.
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    So, you admit that you're a war monger? Truth be told.

    How so?
    You rely on the warmongering rag Weekly Standard to "confirm" your beliefs. You know, the same publication that has been beating the war drums to bomb Iran. The same warmongering rag that beat the war drums for the war in Iraq. The same warmongering rag that has Neo-cons and Neo-con think tanks as contributors who also beat the war drums the loudest and incessantly for both the war in Iraq and now for a war with Iran. The same warmongering rag that probably gave George the term "Axis of Evil" and Condi, "we can't allow the smoking gun to be in the form of a mushroom cloud."

    What's the reason this week?
    By reporting on Hezbollah's perceptions of "the deal" the article confirms my belief that this will likely be seen as a sign of american capitulation and weakness. Hezbollah recognizes as much as I do that sanctions will pretty much be lifted without any changes in Iranian behaviour. They will use this as reason to be more aggressive in the region. Does this mean it is time for war? No. But it does mean "the deal" might not be as fantastic as you hope.
    "American Weakness" boy wish I had a dollar for every time I heard this used to drum up the sheep. We have the bombs. We have the money we have the aircraft carriers. We have the special ops. We have the little remote control airplanes that can reach anywhere in the world and kill anyone. We have EVERYTHING. FUCK.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    So much for that looming threat of shutting down the Straight of Hormuz. Sure glad we didn't have the cowboy in office.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/world/middleeast/us-iran-tensions-appear-to-ease-in-strait-of-hormuz.html?ref=middleeast&_r=0

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  • badbrains
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    So much for that looming threat of shutting down the Straight of Hormuz. Sure glad we didn't have the cowboy in office.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/07/world/middleeast/us-iran-tensions-appear-to-ease-in-strait-of-hormuz.html?ref=middleeast&_r=0

    Hahahaha, bS is steaming right now
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,000
    bill passed the senate.

    only dissenter is....

    tom cotton.

    dimbulb of the senate.
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    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    He's got a rocking chair on a porch in Alaska with his name on it.
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  • gimmesometruth27
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    He's got a rocking chair on a porch in Alaska with his name on it.

    conventional wisdom tells me that this guy is carving out a nice one term political career.

    then again he is from arkansas, so he might be there for a few terms.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Saudi King not interested in going to Camp David. Just another Tom Cotton I guess?

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/11/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-king-wont-attend-camp-david-meeting.html?referrer=
  • callen
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    No worries once Bush back in White House the power circle will be back in place and we'll want to again bomb Iran and walk through the garden hand in hand.

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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    callen said:

    No worries once Bush back in White House the power circle will be back in place and we'll want to again bomb Iran and walk through the garden hand in hand.

    And he'll be cheering with his hard on all the way up in Canada.

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    Excuses turn to carbon walls
    Blame it all on chemical intercourse
    The swallowed seeds of arrogance
    Breeding in the thoughts of ten
    Thousand fools that fight irrelevance

    The full moon is dead skin
    The one down here's wearing thin
    So set up the ten pins
    As the human tide rolls in
    Like a ball that's spinning

    Bombs dropping down
    Overhead, on the ground
    It's instilled
    To want to live
    Bombs dropping down
    Please forgive our hometown
    In our insignificance

    "Turn the jukebox up," he said
    Dancing in irreverance
    Play C-3
    Let the song protest

    The plates began to shift
    Pefect lefts come rolling in
    I was alone and far away
    Hey
    When I heard the band start playing
    On the lip they take off

    Bombs dropping down
    Overhead, underground
    It's instilled
    To want to live
    Bombs dropping down
    Please forgive our hometown
    In our insignificance

    Feeling like resonance of distance
    In the blood the iron lies

    It's instilled
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    BS44325 said:

    Saudi King not interested in going to Camp David. Just another Tom Cotton I guess?

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/11/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-king-wont-attend-camp-david-meeting.html?referrer=

    No, because his untested 29 year old son as defense minister is going along with another appointee. Plus, the guy is 82 years old. Can't imagine he enjoys flying and the buggy woods. It's all about the future.

    Tom Cotton wouldn't have the balls to go to the White House, never mind Saudi Arabia. He's going to play it safe.
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  • BS44325
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Saudi King not interested in going to Camp David. Just another Tom Cotton I guess?

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/11/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-king-wont-attend-camp-david-meeting.html?referrer=

    No, because his untested 29 year old son as defense minister is going along with another appointee. Plus, the guy is 82 years old. Can't imagine he enjoys flying and the buggy woods. It's all about the future.

    Tom Cotton wouldn't have the balls to go to the White House, never mind Saudi Arabia. He's going to play it safe.
    Except he had the balls to serve in Afganistan and Iraq.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,981
    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Saudi King not interested in going to Camp David. Just another Tom Cotton I guess?

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/11/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-king-wont-attend-camp-david-meeting.html?referrer=

    No, because his untested 29 year old son as defense minister is going along with another appointee. Plus, the guy is 82 years old. Can't imagine he enjoys flying and the buggy woods. It's all about the future.

    Tom Cotton wouldn't have the balls to go to the White House, never mind Saudi Arabia. He's going to play it safe.
    Except he had the balls to serve in Afganistan and Iraq.
    I am a warrior, hear me roar. Can we view Tom Cotton's service record?
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  • badbrains
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    BS44325 said:

    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Saudi King not interested in going to Camp David. Just another Tom Cotton I guess?

    http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/05/11/world/middleeast/saudi-arabia-king-wont-attend-camp-david-meeting.html?referrer=

    No, because his untested 29 year old son as defense minister is going along with another appointee. Plus, the guy is 82 years old. Can't imagine he enjoys flying and the buggy woods. It's all about the future.

    Tom Cotton wouldn't have the balls to go to the White House, never mind Saudi Arabia. He's going to play it safe.
    Except he had the balls to serve in Afganistan and Iraq.
    But you didn't
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Iran still bellicose

    http://news.yahoo.com/iran-warns-us-against-stopping-yemen-bound-aid-110906555.html

    No reason for them not to go through the UN.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 41,981
    BS44325 said:

    Iran still bellicose

    http://news.yahoo.com/iran-warns-us-against-stopping-yemen-bound-aid-110906555.html

    No reason for them not to go through the UN.

    Are the Saudi's going through the UN? The same UN that John Bolton is quoted as saying that you could level the top 10 stories of the Headquarters and it would make it better? As the US Ambassador to the UN? That UN? Or the UN that Cheney and Bush discounted and ridiculed when they were in Iraq looking for WMDs? Or the UN that the current crop of republican presidential candidates want to defund?
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    BS44325 said:

    Iran still bellicose

    http://news.yahoo.com/iran-warns-us-against-stopping-yemen-bound-aid-110906555.html

    No reason for them not to go through the UN.

    I learned a new word .... Bellicose.

    So the administration has clearly pissed off our allied Arab nations, as evidenced by 4 out of 6 of them snubbing him on his Camp David summit invite (including the new "King" of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia), and we is pissing off a country, Iran, that we are trying to seduce (for reasons that are unclear).

    This administration has no idea how to maintain a power position in foreign diplomacy. We are getting played by a bunch of kings and supreme leaders.

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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Halifax2TheMax said:

    BS44325 said:

    Iran still bellicose

    http://news.yahoo.com/iran-warns-us-against-stopping-yemen-bound-aid-110906555.html

    No reason for them not to go through the UN.

    Are the Saudi's going through the UN? The same UN that John Bolton is quoted as saying that you could level the top 10 stories of the Headquarters and it would make it better? As the US Ambassador to the UN? That UN? Or the UN that Cheney and Bush discounted and ridiculed when they were in Iraq looking for WMDs? Or the UN that the current crop of republican presidential candidates want to defund?
    Yes...that UN. Thank you for proving my point yet again. It is the same UN that you are relying on to conduct inspections once "the deal" is reached. If they can't go through this UN now you shouldn't expect them to abide by this UN later.

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