Vitalogy Foundation eBay auctions going forward....

Santos L. Halper

Howdy,
As of today, the weekly Vitalogy Foundtion eBay auctions will be found here under the Pearljam_Vitalogyfoundation user name :

http://www.ebay.com/sch/pearljam_vitalogyfoundation/m.html?item=251885827816&ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

Cheers,
slh

elwayvedder

AWESOME. Continue the great work of making cool and rare items available all while helping others in need.

demetrios

Cool.

Horse2345

Please get rid of the global shipping program it is a complete ripoff. It doesn't cost $62 to ship the backpack to Canada and tax isn't 20%

on2legs

demetrios said:

Cool.

They need to give you a cut of the proceeds for staying on top of all the auctions and posting them here for us to see.

badbrains

Horse2345 said:

Please get rid of the global shipping program it is a complete ripoff. It doesn't cost $62 to ship the backpack to Canada and tax isn't 20%

Wow, if that's what they're charging, that's crazy.

lolobugg

badbrains said:

Horse2345 said:

Please get rid of the global shipping program it is a complete ripoff. It doesn't cost $62 to ship the backpack to Canada and tax isn't 20%

Wow, if that's what they're charging, that's crazy.

no wonder that one guy... can't remember his name... started with a S
refused to make good on his side.

Horse2345

badbrains said:

Horse2345 said:

Please get rid of the global shipping program it is a complete ripoff. It doesn't cost $62 to ship the backpack to Canada and tax isn't 20%

Wow, if that's what they're charging, that's crazy.

Current bid $305, shipping $68.79 import fees $57.93 its a joke.

scott nowland

$105 quoted shipping to australia. No thank you.

drsluggo

Great cause - bring on the insanity!

PP193448

How about setting a fair market price, listing it for ten club members to submit request to buy if interested over a 2 week period, then doing lottery for whomever entered. Some fan club member gets a holy grail and Vitalogy Foundation gets money. Win...win for all.
Or do raffles here for it, since money goes to charity. Bet you could raise more money in Tenclub raffles than on Ebay. Lots of peeps would shell out $10 here and there for chances at holy grails. Come on... Try it.

Horse2345

drsluggo said:

Great cause - bring on the insanity!

Great cause but horrible marketing. You lose out on potential buyers plus Ebay charges 10% of winning bid plus 10% of shipping cost.

Nami

lolobugg said:

badbrains said:

Horse2345 said:

Please get rid of the global shipping program it is a complete ripoff. It doesn't cost $62 to ship the backpack to Canada and tax isn't 20%

Wow, if that's what they're charging, that's crazy.

no wonder that one guy... can't remember his name... started with a S
refused to make good on his side.

Hmmm guy? Lol

demetrios

PP193448 said:

How about setting a fair market price, listing it for ten club members to submit request to buy if interested over a 2 week period, then doing lottery for whomever entered. Some fan club member gets a holy grail and Vitalogy Foundation gets money. Win...win for all.
Or do raffles here for it, since money goes to charity. Bet you could raise more money in Tenclub raffles than on Ebay. Lots of peeps would shell out $10 here and there for chances at holy grails. Come on... Try it.

I love that idea. And I'm sure they would make A LOT of mula with any single item they raffle off here. And it doesn't have to be 10 bucks. 2-5 bucks would be suitable.

on2legs said:

demetrios said:

Cool.

They need to give you a cut of the proceeds for staying on top of all the auctions and posting them here for us to see.

It's alright. I'm just glad that ALL fan's living around the world are able to bid on these Pearl Jam items where 90% of the items were exclusive to USA shipping addresses only.

demetrios

Less then 5 hours left .. 2011 PEARL JAM PJ20 PATAGONIA REFUGIO BACKPACK TWENTY http://www.ebay.com/itm/2011-PEARL-JAM-PJ20-PATAGONIA-REFUGIO-BACKPACK-TWENTY-/251885827816?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa590b6e8

PP193448

Damn. I should've kept mine new in bag and listed on the bay. $472. That's nuts.

Poncier

Nuts for sure.

PJ_Soul

I am not a fan of the eBay auctions as a way for the Vitalogy Foundation to make money. It fucks up the estimated market value of the items. I really like the suggestion someone else had: RAFFLES. It would get WAY more money for charity out of 10c members. We love raffles!

lolobugg

PJ_Soul said:

I am not a fan of the eBay auctions as a way for the Vitalogy Foundation to make money. It fucks up the estimated market value of the items. I really like the suggestion someone else had: RAFFLES. It would get WAY more money for charity out of 10c members. We love raffles!

+1

lotsalemon

Estimated market value on stuff is already fucked up because of eBay. It's been that way for a long time.
I'm assuming using eBay is way easier than organizing a raffle. International shipping can be a major PITA as well. Too many "lost" shipments can really ruin your trust in people.

At least this stuff is for charity, and not feeding bootleggers and flippers*.


*yes I know this is a sensitive word around here!

SD48277

PJ_Soul said:

I am not a fan of the eBay auctions as a way for the Vitalogy Foundation to make money. It fucks up the estimated market value of the items. I really like the suggestion someone else had: RAFFLES. It would get WAY more money for charity out of 10c members. We love raffles!

Agreed.

my2hands

inflated market value helps sell more merch... and they know it... plus it is really to raise money for charity when all you have to do is hold back a few "limited" items, wait a few months, and put it up for auction

Their merch is like their setlists now... easily accessible hits for the masses, and rarities for the die hards... hopefully keeping everyone happy

PJ_Soul

Yeah, but raffles would bring a hundred times more money for the charity. If they had done a raffle at $5 per entry, open to all 10c members, for the PJ20 backpack (or Benny Hall, or soldier field, or any other album that hasn't been reissued), they would have probably made $20,000 for one item!

100 Pacer

Very rarely, if ever, will a guitar signed by the band that fetches anywhere between $15,000-$20,000 end up leaving the buyer's hands. Similarly a fan that doles out large dollars for a PJ20 backpack or Benaroya Hall LP at a charity auction will rarely get his/her money back on the secondary market. People are willing to pay a premium to secure these items directly knowing funds are going to a good cause. I don't imagine it would be too long before these items, had they been raffled, were offered up in Lost Dogs. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but I imagine the band wouldn't want to see someone who shelled out $5 or $50 or $500 on raffle tickets turn around and make large coin on a resale. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of selling 1,000 or 10,000 raffle tickets online only to see even a small percentage file charge back claims with their credit card providers for any number of fraudulent reasons.

eBay is just the most functional approach.

PJ_Soul

100 Pacer said:

Very rarely, if ever, will a guitar signed by the band that fetches anywhere between $15,000-$20,000 end up leaving the buyer's hands. Similarly a fan that doles out large dollars for a PJ20 backpack or Benaroya Hall LP at a charity auction will rarely get his/her money back on the secondary market. People are willing to pay a premium to secure these items directly knowing funds are going to a good cause. I don't imagine it would be too long before these items, had they been raffled, were offered up in Lost Dogs. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but I imagine the band wouldn't want to see someone who shelled out $5 or $50 or $500 on raffle tickets turn around and make large coin on a resale. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of selling 1,000 or 10,000 raffle tickets online only to see even a small percentage file charge back claims with their credit card providers for any number of fraudulent reasons.

eBay is just the most functional approach.

None of that matters. I don't see why the band or anyone else would care if an item stays with the buyer/winner or not. I'm talking about the difference between them getting $400 for charity vs getting $20,000 for charity with the same item. I think the better option is obvious, so I am surprised they don't do it. I don't see why the logistics of it would be difficult at all. It would simply involve taking donations and keeping a list of names. The Vitalogy Foundation is already set up to accept donations, so it shouldn't be any problem.

pdalowsky

100 Pacer said:

Very rarely, if ever, will a guitar signed by the band that fetches anywhere between $15,000-$20,000 end up leaving the buyer's hands. Similarly a fan that doles out large dollars for a PJ20 backpack or Benaroya Hall LP at a charity auction will rarely get his/her money back on the secondary market. People are willing to pay a premium to secure these items directly knowing funds are going to a good cause. I don't imagine it would be too long before these items, had they been raffled, were offered up in Lost Dogs. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but I imagine the band wouldn't want to see someone who shelled out $5 or $50 or $500 on raffle tickets turn around and make large coin on a resale. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of selling 1,000 or 10,000 raffle tickets online only to see even a small percentage file charge back claims with their credit card providers for any number of fraudulent reasons.

eBay is just the most functional approach.

Absolutely dead on

Caught-A-Bolt-Of-Lightning

pdalowsky said:

100 Pacer said:

Very rarely, if ever, will a guitar signed by the band that fetches anywhere between $15,000-$20,000 end up leaving the buyer's hands. Similarly a fan that doles out large dollars for a PJ20 backpack or Benaroya Hall LP at a charity auction will rarely get his/her money back on the secondary market. People are willing to pay a premium to secure these items directly knowing funds are going to a good cause. I don't imagine it would be too long before these items, had they been raffled, were offered up in Lost Dogs. Now there's nothing inherently wrong with that, but I imagine the band wouldn't want to see someone who shelled out $5 or $50 or $500 on raffle tickets turn around and make large coin on a resale. Not to mention the logistical nightmare of selling 1,000 or 10,000 raffle tickets online only to see even a small percentage file charge back claims with their credit card providers for any number of fraudulent reasons.

eBay is just the most functional approach.

Absolutely dead on

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This...

demetrios

I wish there was a way 10club was auctioning off Pearl Jam items here @ the 10club website & not on eBay.

What I mean is a dedicated page over @ http://pearljam.com/auctions .

10club members could have a chance to bid on items with ease. If management doesn't want the public to show the names of 10club members bidding, make them invisible. But only the 10club will know the user names who are bidding.

If they offer this service they would save a lot of money & make a lot of money if they offer this kind of service, IMO. You don't pay eBay service fee charges & PayPal service fee charges. 10club members who are interested that don't have eBay accounts or PayPal accounts can bid and pay at the end with a credit card.

I don't know about you, but I really like this option if 10club offered this kind of service to their 10club members.

pdalowsky

Think charities are exempt from fees D

drsluggo

pdalowsky said:

Think charities are exempt from fees D

Yeah -- any auctions set up with donations have whatever portion of ending value is donated refunded. So if you donate 50%, you get 50% of your fees back etc.

demetrios

drsluggo said:

pdalowsky said:

Think charities are exempt from fees D

Yeah -- any auctions set up with donations have whatever portion of ending value is donated refunded. So if you donate 50%, you get 50% of your fees back etc.

Ah. So eBay doesn't make a single penny when you sell an item that's for charity. No charge when you upload photos of your items & there won't be any added PayPal transaction fees for both the seller & the buyer. That's great then. All non profit charitable organizations should just use eBay & PayPal's free service. You would be crazy not to take advantage of their free service.

The only thing I don't like about the eBay auctions from the 10club is they add the Import charges which is estimated and based on current bid, on top of the high shipping cost. I'm sure if this same item was auctioned / sold @ http://pearljam.com/auctions .. there won't be an import charge and the shipment of that poster won't be $43.55 but $15.49 shipped to Canada.