considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
no one can or will condone those actions. but that's not what this thread was about. you posted something about him being a hypocrite SOLELY because he is anti-gun and an actor who is playing in a movie about a gunman, not because of other actions in his life. you can't just change up your own plot at will. it's weak and cries for desperation of hate on this man.
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
You are so desperate to see liberals as the hypocrites that ole Rush makes them out to be that you honestly expect someone to defend this. Cognitive disonance is the entree of cons sir, you won't find us partaking of it quite as much. I don't pay attention to tabloid news, so I never heard of this, but if true, it sounds pretty despicable.
Well pay attention to this, this activist of the year in question has beaten and done terrible acts to woman wether you want to believe it or not. But as many have pointed out he is just an actor and roles like this never influence anyone..Yikes!!!!! Enjoy the movie and someone please give a review.
Musky, you should have just started a "I hate Sean Penn because he beats women" thread then. You got your ass handed to you on the hypocrite attack so now you side step by saying "but, but, but....he's a bad guy"
Damn, gimme. Why does right/left always have to enter into things? You're smarter than that, yes?
(as an aside - what a life to live by "pretending". I'd like to do this too and maybe elevate the perception of my views in the process. They ARE actors. Well-paid and sometimes revered, but pretenders nonetheless.)
Everyone is a fucking Napoleon.
Muskydan made this a right/left issue from the start.
Right/left does enter into most discussions, particularly political ones...I understand not liking it, but you can't just dismiss it out of hand because you don't like the dichotomy. This country is sharply divided between ideals which have been lumped to one side or the other, most people fall in between but the politicians they elect don't. I just watched the doc Citizen Koch (obviously about citzens united and money in politics) and these dumbass Wisconsin voters were lamenting Walker's union shakedowns saying "I'm a proud Republican and I voted for him with confidence, but this isn't what I expected from him, these aren't my values." Duhhhhhh what the fuck did you think? That he would uphold your conservative Christian social values but not attack your police union? Cognitive disonance at its finest.
but the point is, it shouldn't, regardless "who started it". so be the one to stop it. I'm not left or right. I'm pro-choice, pro-orientation rights, but tough on crime at the same time as being anti-death penalty. that doesn't fit in any neat little box.
I have my own ideals based on what I believe to be right and how I was raised. that doesn't fall neatly into one colour or the other. I think it's incredibly limiting to oneself to identify as any particular political leaning. as soon as you do that, you close the doors of discussion. my in laws, for example, are New Democrat to the death. Doesn't matter what the party does or says. I find that unbelievably stupid. And they aren't stupid people. just unflinchingly loyal.
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
You are so desperate to see liberals as the hypocrites that ole Rush makes them out to be that you honestly expect someone to defend this. Cognitive disonance is the entree of cons sir, you won't find us partaking of it quite as much. I don't pay attention to tabloid news, so I never heard of this, but if true, it sounds pretty despicable.
Well pay attention to this, this activist of the year in question has beaten and done terrible acts to woman wether you want to believe it or not. But as many have pointed out he is just an actor and roles like this never influence anyone..Yikes!!!!! Enjoy the movie and someone please give a review.
so you believe that him being in a movie about guns will influence others to tie up and beat people during sex? is that the leap you are making here?
not condoning any actions. if he did those things, he should be punished for them. but let me ask...was he ever convicted of any of this? was he even charged? did he admit it? or was it all mentioned in a book by madonna? a book she wanted to be successful and controversial and a money-maker?
I have my own ideals based on what I believe to be right and how I was raised. that doesn't fall neatly into one colour or the other. I think it's incredibly limiting to oneself to identify as any particular political leaning. as soon as you do that, you close the doors of discussion.
Damn, gimme. Why does right/left always have to enter into things? You're smarter than that, yes?
(as an aside - what a life to live by "pretending". I'd like to do this too and maybe elevate the perception of my views in the process. They ARE actors. Well-paid and sometimes revered, but pretenders nonetheless.)
Everyone is a fucking Napoleon.
Muskydan made this a right/left issue from the start.
Right/left does enter into most discussions, particularly political ones...I understand not liking it, but you can't just dismiss it out of hand because you don't like the dichotomy. This country is sharply divided between ideals which have been lumped to one side or the other, most people fall in between but the politicians they elect don't. I just watched the doc Citizen Koch (obviously about citzens united and money in politics) and these dumbass Wisconsin voters were lamenting Walker's union shakedowns saying "I'm a proud Republican and I voted for him with confidence, but this isn't what I expected from him, these aren't my values." Duhhhhhh what the fuck did you think? That he would uphold your conservative Christian social values but not attack your police union? Cognitive disonance at its finest.
but the point is, it shouldn't, regardless "who started it". so be the one to stop it. I'm not left or right. I'm pro-choice, pro-orientation rights, but tough on crime at the same time as being anti-death penalty. that doesn't fit in any neat little box.
I have my own ideals based on what I believe to be right and how I was raised. that doesn't fall neatly into one colour or the other. I think it's incredibly limiting to oneself to identify as any particular political leaning. as soon as you do that, you close the doors of discussion. my in laws, for example, are New Democrat to the death. Doesn't matter what the party does or says. I find that unbelievably stupid. And they aren't stupid people. just unflinchingly loyal.
Like I said, most people fall in between, but individual viewpoints tend to lean one way or another because everything has been split down ththee middle. I,don't like it any more than you guys, but I recognize it as the reality we live in. Like your in-laws, many people in this county align to one side or the other, but more importantly, the politicians and policies align this way, making centrists essentially non-effective.
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
no one can or will condone those actions. but that's not what this thread was about. you posted something about him being a hypocrite SOLELY because he is anti-gun and an actor who is playing in a movie about a gunman, not because of other actions in his life. you can't just change up your own plot at will. it's weak and cries for desperation of hate on this man.
Nice Try....what part of my original post didnt indicate I think he is a asshole and an obvious hypocrite? Regardless, Its evident that many of you adore this guy, but just wanted to make sure y'all knew what he is really about. I am old enough to remember all the shit this prick used to pull. He often broke the #1 law of Pearl Jamness...."don't be an asshole" And the woman beating is unforgivable how I was brought up, but hey different temperaments, talents, and convictions makes the world go around. Have fun at the movies
Never been a fan on this jerk/commie Sean Penn, other than when he played Jeff Spicole of course, but was wondering what people thought of his decision to be in this Gunman movie. Perhaps he is having rough times financially and needs a big payday?? Or Is he coming to the reality that he really is becoming irrelevant and needs to get his name back out there... A la his dumb ass "inside joke" comment at the Oscars . I love shoot em up movies like the next guy, but Hollywood phonies like him need to be called out when they so blatantly contradict themselves.
your entire point shown above was based on his choice of movie role. when that point was shown to be incredibly weak, you changed gears and went for this wife-beating angle.
now, had you started a thread about him taking on a role of a doctor at a battered women's shelter, then you'd have something there. I just read that he was charged and convicted of battery against madonna. yes, that is sickening. I did not know that. I knew he had been accused, but I didn't know about his pleading guilty to it. Nasty.
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
no one can or will condone those actions. but that's not what this thread was about. you posted something about him being a hypocrite SOLELY because he is anti-gun and an actor who is playing in a movie about a gunman, not because of other actions in his life. you can't just change up your own plot at will. it's weak and cries for desperation of hate on this man.
Nice Try....what part of my original post didnt indicate I think he is a asshole and an obvious hypocrite? Regardless, Its evident that many of you adore this guy, but just wanted to make sure y'all knew what he is really about. I am old enough to remember all the shit this prick used to pull. He often broke the #1 law of Pearl Jamness...."don't be an asshole" And the woman beating is unforgivable how I was brought up, but hey different temperaments, talents, and convictions makes the world go around. Have fun at the movies
I don't "adore this guy". I think he's a talented actor, but beyond that, I don't know the guy personally. I don't like him any more than I don't understand why you think you hate him. You know one detail about his life, and you think you know him?
I do my best not to judge those I don't personally know.
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
You are so desperate to see liberals as the hypocrites that ole Rush makes them out to be that you honestly expect someone to defend this. Cognitive disonance is the entree of cons sir, you won't find us partaking of it quite as much. I don't pay attention to tabloid news, so I never heard of this, but if true, it sounds pretty despicable.
Well pay attention to this, this activist of the year in question has beaten and done terrible acts to woman wether you want to believe it or not. But as many have pointed out he is just an actor and roles like this never influence anyone..Yikes!!!!! Enjoy the movie and someone please give a review.
so you believe that him being in a movie about guns will influence others to tie up and beat people during sex? is that the leap you are making here?
not condoning any actions. if he did those things, he should be punished for them. but let me ask...was he ever convicted of any of this? was he even charged? did he admit it? or was it all mentioned in a book by madonna? a book she wanted to be successful and controversial and a money-maker?
Take a look for yourself, but beware if you adore this creep you might not like what you will find if you delve into his antics in the 80's and 90's....but perhaps some people will....who knows anymore really..
Never been a fan on this jerk/commie Sean Penn, other than when he played Jeff Spicole of course, but was wondering what people thought of his decision to be in this Gunman movie. Perhaps he is having rough times financially and needs a big payday?? Or Is he coming to the reality that he really is becoming irrelevant and needs to get his name back out there... A la his dumb ass "inside joke" comment at the Oscars . I love shoot em up movies like the next guy, but Hollywood phonies like him need to be called out when they so blatantly contradict themselves.
your entire point shown above was based on his choice of movie role. when that point was shown to be incredibly weak, you changed gears and went for this wife-beating angle.
now, had you started a thread about him taking on a role of a doctor at a battered women's shelter, then you'd have something there. I just read that he was charged and convicted of battery against madonna. yes, that is sickening. I did not know that. I knew he had been accused, but I didn't know about his pleading guilty to it. Nasty.
Unless I'm mistaken, the wife beating incident was offered after somebody posted a list of things Sean Penn has done that we should be impressed about.
Never been a fan on this jerk/commie Sean Penn, other than when he played Jeff Spicole of course, but was wondering what people thought of his decision to be in this Gunman movie. Perhaps he is having rough times financially and needs a big payday?? Or Is he coming to the reality that he really is becoming irrelevant and needs to get his name back out there... A la his dumb ass "inside joke" comment at the Oscars . I love shoot em up movies like the next guy, but Hollywood phonies like him need to be called out when they so blatantly contradict themselves.
your entire point shown above was based on his choice of movie role. when that point was shown to be incredibly weak, you changed gears and went for this wife-beating angle.
now, had you started a thread about him taking on a role of a doctor at a battered women's shelter, then you'd have something there. I just read that he was charged and convicted of battery against madonna. yes, that is sickening. I did not know that. I knew he had been accused, but I didn't know about his pleading guilty to it. Nasty.
Unless I'm mistaken, the wife beating incident was offered after somebody posted a list of things Sean Penn has done that we should be impressed about.
no, he mentioned it on the first page "he better not beat Charlize like he beat the rest of his girlfriends".
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
You are so desperate to see liberals as the hypocrites that ole Rush makes them out to be that you honestly expect someone to defend this. Cognitive disonance is the entree of cons sir, you won't find us partaking of it quite as much. I don't pay attention to tabloid news, so I never heard of this, but if true, it sounds pretty despicable.
Well pay attention to this, this activist of the year in question has beaten and done terrible acts to woman wether you want to believe it or not. But as many have pointed out he is just an actor and roles like this never influence anyone..Yikes!!!!! Enjoy the movie and someone please give a review.
so you believe that him being in a movie about guns will influence others to tie up and beat people during sex? is that the leap you are making here?
not condoning any actions. if he did those things, he should be punished for them. but let me ask...was he ever convicted of any of this? was he even charged? did he admit it? or was it all mentioned in a book by madonna? a book she wanted to be successful and controversial and a money-maker?
Take a look for yourself, but beware if you adore this creep you might not like what you will find if you delve into his antics in the 80's and 90's....but perhaps some people will....who knows anymore really..
as I said, I don't adore anyone I don't know personally. I like his acting skills. it ends there. just like I think Tom Cruise is a great actor. Just like I think Billy Corgan is a great songwriter. I don't give a flying fuck what they do outside of their craft.
I've always found it fascinating that people come into a thread they think is no longer worth discussing, make a comment, thus bumping that thread, and ironically, effectively promoting further discussion of said topic no longer worth discussing.
Never been a fan on this jerk/commie Sean Penn, other than when he played Jeff Spicole of course, but was wondering what people thought of his decision to be in this Gunman movie. Perhaps he is having rough times financially and needs a big payday?? Or Is he coming to the reality that he really is becoming irrelevant and needs to get his name back out there... A la his dumb ass "inside joke" comment at the Oscars . I love shoot em up movies like the next guy, but Hollywood phonies like him need to be called out when they so blatantly contradict themselves.
your entire point shown above was based on his choice of movie role. when that point was shown to be incredibly weak, you changed gears and went for this wife-beating angle.
now, had you started a thread about him taking on a role of a doctor at a battered women's shelter, then you'd have something there. I just read that he was charged and convicted of battery against madonna. yes, that is sickening. I did not know that. I knew he had been accused, but I didn't know about his pleading guilty to it. Nasty.
Unless I'm mistaken, the wife beating incident was offered after somebody posted a list of things Sean Penn has done that we should be impressed about.
no, he mentioned it on the first page "he better not beat Charlize like he beat the rest of his girlfriends".
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I would say no matter what side you are on, who cares what Sean Penn thinks about anything? Or his personal life. Dude is an actor and has zero impact on my life one way or another.
I've always found it fascinating that people come into a thread they think is no longer worth discussing, make a comment, thus bumping that thread, and ironically, effectively promoting further discussion of said topic no longer worth discussing.
why?
Why? He's an actor. What more is there to be discussed. As far as bumping it, it was already on the top. From last night when I went to bed to the time I posted that, there like 13 new posts. I just didn't think it would go on this long.
I've always found it fascinating that people come into a thread they think is no longer worth discussing, make a comment, thus bumping that thread, and ironically, effectively promoting further discussion of said topic no longer worth discussing.
why?
Why? He's an actor. What more is there to be discussed. As far as bumping it, it was already on the top. From last night when I went to bed to the time I posted that, there like 13 new posts. I just didn't think it would go on this long.
you have been here long enough to know that we do not just beat topics into the ground around here. we beat them another 10 feet under the ground.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
So there is no conservative actors who beat their girls , yeah Sean can be a great actor but shit personality , hell remember Bing Crosby with the great soothing voice he was a prick to all his kids ....In other words who cares
So there is no conservative actors who beat their girls , yeah Sean can be a great actor but shit personality , hell remember Bing Crosby with the great soothing voice he was a prick to all his kids ....In other words who cares
can you imagine chuck norris trying to negotiate and settle things without violence? the outrage that would cause....or charlton heston playing an anti-gun liberal?? oh the humanity....
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What a stupid thread.
I have my own ideals based on what I believe to be right and how I was raised. that doesn't fall neatly into one colour or the other. I think it's incredibly limiting to oneself to identify as any particular political leaning. as soon as you do that, you close the doors of discussion. my in laws, for example, are New Democrat to the death. Doesn't matter what the party does or says. I find that unbelievably stupid. And they aren't stupid people. just unflinchingly loyal.
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not condoning any actions. if he did those things, he should be punished for them. but let me ask...was he ever convicted of any of this? was he even charged? did he admit it? or was it all mentioned in a book by madonna? a book she wanted to be successful and controversial and a money-maker?
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(And gah! Whole lotta quotin goin on)
now, had you started a thread about him taking on a role of a doctor at a battered women's shelter, then you'd have something there. I just read that he was charged and convicted of battery against madonna. yes, that is sickening. I did not know that. I knew he had been accused, but I didn't know about his pleading guilty to it. Nasty.
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I do my best not to judge those I don't personally know.
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I don't pay attention to thos sorts of things
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
not I. i actually find him pretty annoying.
I saw the agenda in the OP and just listed some good things he has done with the money he has made pretending.
why not just call this thread "fuck sean penn" and be done with it??
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"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."