@blux, thanks for that article. i actually didn't even know penn was anti gun. neeson and marky mark are the only ones i knew of that consistently use guns in their movies but are vocally against the public owning guns. if the situation is as you think it might be and we won't see anymore movies of him mowing down people with guns, then i'd respect his opinion and not think he's completely full of shit or a hypocrite.
gonna melt down my cowardly killing machines almost made me fall out of my chair laughing.
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if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
@blux, thanks for that article. i actually didn't even know penn was anti gun. neeson and marky mark are the only ones i knew of that consistently use guns in their movies but are vocally against the public owning guns. if the situation is as you think it might be and we won't see anymore movies of him mowing down people with guns, then i'd respect his opinion and not think he's completely full of shit or a hypocrite.
gonna melt down my cowardly killing machines almost made me fall out of my chair laughing.
Good! This thread need a little humor goingtoverona!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Oh boy did I really enjoy Bill Maher stroke off Our favorite woman beater Sean Penn tonight on Real Time. These 2 guys are a perfect fit in being full of shit. But some of you guys are right, I do think Sean Penn is a fabulous actor who is just challenging himself in his role in the Gunman. Hope you make a ton of Dough Sean....
Oh boy did I really enjoy Bill Maher stroke off Our favorite woman beater Sean Penn tonight on Real Time. These 2 guys are a perfect fit in being full of shit. But some of you guys are right, I do think Sean Penn is a fabulous actor who is just challenging himself in his role in the Gunman. Hope you make a ton of Dough Sean....
How about a link, por favor? The weather hasn't been right for my TV reception. I do miss seeing Bill Maher's show. I do adore him so!
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Been watching this thread from the start and gotta say it's silly as fuck. If Sean Penn, in REAL LIFE, shot some people for fun, revenge, or any other reason, this thread would have some solid footing. BUT the man's a fucking actor. Christ!
@earl, I think what the argument is, is that some people from the anti gun side have said in the past that games like call of duty and movies like taken, glorify guns and violence and if we are to make a conscientious effort as a society to stop gun violence, we should stop making these games and movies. I guess it really boils down to your personal opinion. if you believe that games and movies encourage violence and the lack of those games and movies would save lives and change mindsets regarding guns, then thinking these people are hypocrites is a fair assessment. if you don't believe that games and movies contribute to gun violence, then I would say that I see where you're coming from on the, they're just actors attitude.
if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
I don't care at all, but a highly principled person would likely not assume a role that conflicts with their ideals if they strongly believed in them. It's the 'walk the walk' versus 'talk the talk' notion.
Been watching this thread from the start and gotta say it's silly as fuck. If Sean Penn, in REAL LIFE, shot some people for fun, revenge, or any other reason, this thread would have some solid footing. BUT the man's a fucking actor. Christ!
Wouldn't someone who is a Neo-CON be a hypocrite for watching bill mahar? Just saying.
Haha! Touche, bb.
But on the other hand, I have to admit I listened to the Rush Limbaugh show once. Well, damn, now I guess I have to turn in my secret decoder ring.
Hahaha i tune in to him now and then, good for a deep belly laugh...last time he was decrying how liberals use fear to influence people (climate alarmist rant) and how that is "downright deplorable" then it cuts to 2 commercials using his voice, one to sell guns after lamenting on home invasions and personal protection, the next for lifelock to protect yourself from identity theft lol Talk about a hypocrite!
@earl, I think what the argument is, is that some people from the anti gun side have said in the past that games like call of duty and movies like taken, glorify guns and violence and if we are to make a conscientious effort as a society to stop gun violence, we should stop making these games and movies. I guess it really boils down to your personal opinion. if you believe that games and movies encourage violence and the lack of those games and movies would save lives and change mindsets regarding guns, then thinking these people are hypocrites is a fair assessment. if you don't believe that games and movies contribute to gun violence, then I would say that I see where you're coming from on the, they're just actors attitude.
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considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Damn, gimme. Why does right/left always have to enter into things? You're smarter than that, yes?
(as an aside - what a life to live by "pretending". I'd like to do this too and maybe elevate the perception of my views in the process. They ARE actors. Well-paid and sometimes revered, but pretenders nonetheless.)
Damn, gimme. Why does right/left always have to enter into things? You're smarter than that, yes?
(as an aside - what a life to live by "pretending". I'd like to do this too and maybe elevate the perception of my views in the process. They ARE actors. Well-paid and sometimes revered, but pretenders nonetheless.)
Everyone is a fucking Napoleon.
because right/left is always a part of things. it does not "enter into things" when one of the two wings initiates the debate by stating it's case. it is there from the beginning.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
You are so desperate to see liberals as the hypocrites that ole Rush makes them out to be that you honestly expect someone to defend this. Cognitive disonance is the entree of cons sir, you won't find us partaking of it quite as much. I don't pay attention to tabloid news, so I never heard of this, but if true, it sounds pretty despicable.
Nah I don't think he's being a Hypocrite...I mean he's not one of my favourite Actors and what ever he's motives are this is just a Movie and it's acting.
Damn, gimme. Why does right/left always have to enter into things? You're smarter than that, yes?
(as an aside - what a life to live by "pretending". I'd like to do this too and maybe elevate the perception of my views in the process. They ARE actors. Well-paid and sometimes revered, but pretenders nonetheless.)
Everyone is a fucking Napoleon.
Muskydan made this a right/left issue from the start.
Right/left does enter into most discussions, particularly political ones...I understand not liking it, but you can't just dismiss it out of hand because you don't like the dichotomy. This country is sharply divided between ideals which have been lumped to one side or the other, most people fall in between but the politicians they elect don't. I just watched the doc Citizen Koch (obviously about citzens united and money in politics) and these dumbass Wisconsin voters were lamenting Walker's union shakedowns saying "I'm a proud Republican and I voted for him with confidence, but this isn't what I expected from him, these aren't my values." Duhhhhhh what the fuck did you think? That he would uphold your conservative Christian social values but not attack your police union? Cognitive disonance at its finest.
Never been a fan on this jerk/commie Sean Penn, other than when he played Jeff Spicole of course, but was wondering what people thought of his decision to be in this Gunman movie. Perhaps he is having rough times financially and needs a big payday?? Or Is he coming to the reality that he really is becoming irrelevant and needs to get his name back out there... A la his dumb ass "inside joke" comment at the Oscars . I love shoot em up movies like the next guy, but Hollywood phonies like him need to be called out when they so blatantly contradict themselves.
I haven't followed this thread for just this reason.. these guy's are "actors" and I really don't see the point of bashing anybody that plays the part of a gunman, tom hanks played the part of a dieing gay attorney once...so what. this is also the reason I don't think guys like EV should involve thier music with politics. have we become so critical of another person that we fault them for rolls they accept ...unfortunatly we have so change the channel ,don't go see the movie or don't buy the DVD...why upset yourself ? and like I said I have not followed this thread but has it turned into one of those "anti gun threads" again ?...Lord knows this place is all about gun restrictions and gay rights so I'm outta this thread now, see ya !
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010 provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
You sure are missing a few more...how about the one when Mr. Wonderful tied up Madonna for hours w/ a extension cord, beat her countless times, left the house for a bit to get more booze and beat her again. She was able to break free after he passed out before performing a sex act for the husband of the year. Can't wait to hear you guys defend those actions. That might be a bit tricky for some of you liberals, but I have faith someone will compromise their values to defend this dick's actions.
You are so desperate to see liberals as the hypocrites that ole Rush makes them out to be that you honestly expect someone to defend this. Cognitive disonance is the entree of cons sir, you won't find us partaking of it quite as much. I don't pay attention to tabloid news, so I never heard of this, but if true, it sounds pretty despicable.
Well pay attention to this, this activist of the year in question has beaten and done terrible acts to woman wether you want to believe it or not. But as many have pointed out he is just an actor and roles like this never influence anyone..Yikes!!!!! Enjoy the movie and someone please give a review.
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gonna melt down my cowardly killing machines almost made me fall out of my chair laughing.
I do miss seeing Bill Maher's show. I do adore him so!
But on the other hand, I have to admit I listened to the Rush Limbaugh show once. Well, damn, now I guess I have to turn in my secret decoder ring.
Talk about a hypocrite!
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/sean-penn-reveals-obsession-bachelor/story?id=29615330
Desensitize? Absolutely.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
considering that "acting" is essentially "pretending", i can't be bothered by this. straight actors pretend to be gay and vice versa all the time. a person who supports tighter gun laws can use a fake gun in a pretend movie.
it is not like chuck norris is trying to be in a pro choice movie or something...
people on the right just seem bitter that sean penn has done the following, while most of them have sat on their butts and complained about him:
attended protests and marches against the iraq war
visited Iran as a journalist in 2005 and attended friday prayers there
played harvey milk and has been out front in the gay marriage fight
beat the government response into louisiana and rescued people following katrina
founded a relief organization for those affected by the haiti quake in 2010
provided direct aid to the victims of the pakistan flood
i am sure there are a few more that i am forgetting.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
(as an aside - what a life to live by "pretending". I'd like to do this too and maybe elevate the perception of my views in the process. They ARE actors. Well-paid and sometimes revered, but pretenders nonetheless.)
Everyone is a fucking Napoleon.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Honestly, it's not "always". It's injected - and many times, unnecessarily.
No wing here.
maybe you should begin to care about sides. there is no middle anymore.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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Truth be told, sides can kiss my ass.
(I was gonna add "effort to" up there, but realized effort itself can be enough)
I don't pay attention to tabloid news, so I never heard of this, but if true, it sounds pretty despicable.
Right/left does enter into most discussions, particularly political ones...I understand not liking it, but you can't just dismiss it out of hand because you don't like the dichotomy. This country is sharply divided between ideals which have been lumped to one side or the other, most people fall in between but the politicians they elect don't.
I just watched the doc Citizen Koch (obviously about citzens united and money in politics) and these dumbass Wisconsin voters were lamenting Walker's union shakedowns saying "I'm a proud Republican and I voted for him with confidence, but this isn't what I expected from him, these aren't my values."
Duhhhhhh what the fuck did you think? That he would uphold your conservative Christian social values but not attack your police union? Cognitive disonance at its finest.
these guy's are "actors" and I really don't see the point of bashing anybody that plays the part of a gunman, tom hanks played the part of a dieing gay attorney once...so what.
this is also the reason I don't think guys like EV should involve thier music with politics.
have we become so critical of another person that we fault them for rolls they accept ...unfortunatly we have so change the channel ,don't go see the movie or don't buy the DVD...why upset yourself ?
and like I said I have not followed this thread but has it turned into one of those "anti gun threads" again ?...Lord knows this place is all about gun restrictions and gay rights so I'm outta this thread now, see ya !
Godfather.