And I also heard that Jason P, in real life, likes chucking grenades at rebels from his whirlly copter in the video game Far Cry 4, even though Jason P supports regulation such as background checks and mental evaluation for fire arm purchases.
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Thank you to everyone who thought about this 4 a minute and contributed. I am sure most of you will be happy to hear I lost a bet I made with a few cats on my team about this topic.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
in my opinion, to star in a movie glorifying guns and gun violence then vocalize how terrible guns are, is part of that anti gun mindset that it doesn't matter what you do, believe or say, if you're anti gun, that's a good thing. an example, the anti gun movement not wanting people to carry concealed, which is basically saying, people shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves, but that's ok, because less guns on the street is a good thing. or acknowledging that banning handguns won't get rid of handguns or handgun violence, but so what, less guns on the street is a good thing. being anti gun has got peoples minds so distorted that you can actually say, I don't care if laws don't work, I don't care if people can't defend themselves against armed criminals, let's do it anyways, and be completely content with yourselves because at the end of the day, you don't like guns. I do agree with whoever said it, that neeson is worse than penn. it's comical when you sit back and look at it. hey everybody, guns are so terrible, they're the worst thing in the world responsible for all this death and mayhem. oh by the way come check out my new movie where I play my usual badass self, kicking ass and taking names with all sorts of guns. I show in my movies that guns are awesome, cool, save lives, and are a completely necessary part of life........but don't forget..... guns are bad!!!!
if I was an actor, and I publicly vocalized how disturbed I was about how women are treated, that women are precious and we really need to honor and cherish them, and in the same breath told you to come check out my new movie where I play my usual role of a pimp. where i'll be slappin bitches pimpin out hoes for money and just doing my pimp thing. no one would see that as hypocritical or at the very least counter productive? i'd just be an artist exploring difficult roles?? bull shit. but again, it goes back to that anti gun mindset, it's ok to glorify guns and gun violence as long as you're against guns at the end of the day.
if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
I am going to leave that one alone...wouldn't want everyone heads to spin off their bodies. And goingtoverina...where were you a few days ago?? Now I am stuck wearing this stupid Rham pin. Someone is going to kick my ass at the Southside Irish parade on Sunday...
I am going to leave that one alone...wouldn't want everyone heads to spin off their bodies. And goingtoverina...where were you a few days ago?? Now I am stuck wearing this stupid Rham pin. Someone is going to kick my ass at the Southside Irish parade on Sunday...
I'd keep your confidence in PM. You got me curious now!!!
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
in my opinion, to star in a movie glorifying guns and gun violence then vocalize how terrible guns are, is part of that anti gun mindset that it doesn't matter what you do, believe or say, if you're anti gun, that's a good thing. an example, the anti gun movement not wanting people to carry concealed, which is basically saying, people shouldn't be allowed to defend themselves, but that's ok, because less guns on the street is a good thing. or acknowledging that banning handguns won't get rid of handguns or handgun violence, but so what, less guns on the street is a good thing. being anti gun has got peoples minds so distorted that you can actually say, I don't care if laws don't work, I don't care if people can't defend themselves against armed criminals, let's do it anyways, and be completely content with yourselves because at the end of the day, you don't like guns. I do agree with whoever said it, that neeson is worse than penn. it's comical when you sit back and look at it. hey everybody, guns are so terrible, they're the worst thing in the world responsible for all this death and mayhem. oh by the way come check out my new movie where I play my usual badass self, kicking ass and taking names with all sorts of guns. I show in my movies that guns are awesome, cool, save lives, and are a completely necessary part of life........but don't forget..... guns are bad!!!!
if I was an actor, and I publicly vocalized how disturbed I was about how women are treated, that women are precious and we really need to honor and cherish them, and in the same breath told you to come check out my new movie where I play my usual role of a pimp. where i'll be slappin bitches pimpin out hoes for money and just doing my pimp thing. no one would see that as hypocritical or at the very least counter productive? i'd just be an artist exploring difficult roles?? bull shit. but again, it goes back to that anti gun mindset, it's ok to glorify guns and gun violence as long as you're against guns at the end of the day.
Interesting. Do you really see that in the people who have written in the many gun thread here on AMT or are you talking about the public in general? The way you describe those people here is as if you think they are somewhat mindless or just shoot from the hip (pun intended, haha.) I say that because it surely seems to me that the average person who posts here on AMT is, in general more intelligent and informed than that.
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@blux, talking about people in general. take the carry conceal as a good example. the anti gun crowd does not want the general public to be able to carry around pistols. now if you take a step back and ask, who else, what other group of people wants the general public to be disarmed? the answer is criminals..... murderers, rapists and armed robbers want the exact same thing as the anti gun peeps, that people don't have the means to defend themselves. I think a regular normal person would look at that and say damn that's messed up, there has to be a compromise that allows people to defend themselves against criminal activity while simultaneously reducing gun deaths. whereas an anti gunner will say, so what, less guns on the street is a good thing. some people are gonna have to get murdered, some women are gonna have to get raped, some people are gonna have to be robbed at gun point, and that's all acceptable, because we're trying to keep guns off the street.
and I really liked your pun, I chuckled.
edited to say, when I have brought this up before, the replies I got were, that the group of people that defended themselves against getting murdered, raped and robbed are a smaller group than those who are being killed by guns. that's it, just majority rules, no ideas or thoughts on how to protect that minority, just this groups bigger so this groups better. and my personal favorite, that having a gun for protection will "escalate" the situation if you're a victim of a crime. as if people out there don't get murdered, robbed and raped if they just sit there, close there eyes and click their heels three times saying there's no place like home. for some reason, people think that if you just cross your fingers and pray, it'll be all good in the neighborhood because criminals only want to hurt you if you defend yourself against the crime they're perpetuating against you.
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if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
@blux, talking about people in general. take the carry conceal as a good example. the anti gun crowd does not want the general public to be able to carry around pistols. now if you take a step back and ask, who else, what other group of people wants the general public to be disarmed? the answer is criminals..... murderers, rapists and armed robbers want the exact same thing as the anti gun peeps, that people don't have the means to defend themselves. I think a regular normal person would look at that and say damn that's messed up, there has to be a compromise that allows people to defend themselves against criminal activity while simultaneously reducing gun deaths. whereas an anti gunner will say, so what, less guns on the street is a good thing. some people are gonna have to get murdered, some women are gonna have to get raped, some people are gonna have to be robbed at gun point, and that's all acceptable, because we're trying to keep guns off the street.
and I really liked your pun, I chuckled.
edited to say, when I have brought this up before, the replies I got were, that the group of people that defended themselves against getting murdered, raped and robbed are a smaller group than those who are being killed by guns. that's it, just majority rules, no ideas or thoughts on how to protect that minority, just this groups bigger so this groups better. and my personal favorite, that having a gun for protection will "escalate" the situation if you're a victim of a crime. as if people out there don't get murdered, robbed and raped if they just sit there, close there eyes and click their heels three times saying there's no place like home. for some reason, people think that if you just cross your fingers and pray, it'll be all good in the neighborhood because criminals only want to hurt you if you defend yourself against the crime they're perpetuating against you.
you have to make gun laws strict enough to deter criminals from carrying too. that's what people don't want to hear and that's why getting handguns off of American streets will never happen. too much lobbying power by the NRA. if you passed a law (stating that if you are caught with a handgun, you get an automatic life sentence or the death penalty) you would eventually see handgun crimes decrease to very small levels. the deterrent is not there. I don't believe arming everyone is the solution. remember- the only purpose of a concealed weapon is to harm/murder a human being. you don't need a concealed weapon to hunt wild animals.
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@blux, talking about people in general. take the carry conceal as a good example. the anti gun crowd does not want the general public to be able to carry around pistols. now if you take a step back and ask, who else, what other group of people wants the general public to be disarmed? the answer is criminals..... murderers, rapists and armed robbers want the exact same thing as the anti gun peeps, that people don't have the means to defend themselves. I think a regular normal person would look at that and say damn that's messed up, there has to be a compromise that allows people to defend themselves against criminal activity while simultaneously reducing gun deaths. whereas an anti gunner will say, so what, less guns on the street is a good thing. some people are gonna have to get murdered, some women are gonna have to get raped, some people are gonna have to be robbed at gun point, and that's all acceptable, because we're trying to keep guns off the street.
and I really liked your pun, I chuckled.
edited to say, when I have brought this up before, the replies I got were, that the group of people that defended themselves against getting murdered, raped and robbed are a smaller group than those who are being killed by guns. that's it, just majority rules, no ideas or thoughts on how to protect that minority, just this groups bigger so this groups better. and my personal favorite, that having a gun for protection will "escalate" the situation if you're a victim of a crime. as if people out there don't get murdered, robbed and raped if they just sit there, close there eyes and click their heels three times saying there's no place like home. for some reason, people think that if you just cross your fingers and pray, it'll be all good in the neighborhood because criminals only want to hurt you if you defend yourself against the crime they're perpetuating against you.
you have to make gun laws strict enough to deter criminals from carrying too. that's what people don't want to hear and that's why getting handguns off of American streets will never happen. too much lobbying power by the NRA. if you passed a law (stating that if you are caught with a handgun, you get an automatic life sentence or the death penalty) you would eventually see handgun crimes decrease to very small levels. the deterrent is not there. I don't believe arming everyone is the solution. remember- the only purpose of a concealed weapon is to harm/murder a human being. you don't need a concealed weapon to hunt wild animals.
Different topic, but we could shut ISIS down too if we were willing to cut their weapon source (US) at the knees...no profit there though
@blux, talking about people in general. take the carry conceal as a good example. the anti gun crowd does not want the general public to be able to carry around pistols. now if you take a step back and ask, who else, what other group of people wants the general public to be disarmed? the answer is criminals..... murderers, rapists and armed robbers want the exact same thing as the anti gun peeps, that people don't have the means to defend themselves. I think a regular normal person would look at that and say damn that's messed up, there has to be a compromise that allows people to defend themselves against criminal activity while simultaneously reducing gun deaths. whereas an anti gunner will say, so what, less guns on the street is a good thing. some people are gonna have to get murdered, some women are gonna have to get raped, some people are gonna have to be robbed at gun point, and that's all acceptable, because we're trying to keep guns off the street.
and I really liked your pun, I chuckled.
edited to say, when I have brought this up before, the replies I got were, that the group of people that defended themselves against getting murdered, raped and robbed are a smaller group than those who are being killed by guns. that's it, just majority rules, no ideas or thoughts on how to protect that minority, just this groups bigger so this groups better. and my personal favorite, that having a gun for protection will "escalate" the situation if you're a victim of a crime. as if people out there don't get murdered, robbed and raped if they just sit there, close there eyes and click their heels three times saying there's no place like home. for some reason, people think that if you just cross your fingers and pray, it'll be all good in the neighborhood because criminals only want to hurt you if you defend yourself against the crime they're perpetuating against you.
you have to make gun laws strict enough to deter criminals from carrying too. that's what people don't want to hear and that's why getting handguns off of American streets will never happen. too much lobbying power by the NRA. if you passed a law (stating that if you are caught with a handgun, you get an automatic life sentence or the death penalty) you would eventually see handgun crimes decrease to very small levels. the deterrent is not there. I don't believe arming everyone is the solution. remember- the only purpose of a concealed weapon is to harm/murder a human being. you don't need a concealed weapon to hunt wild animals.
Different topic, but we could shut ISIS down too if we were willing to cut their weapon source (US) at the knees...no profit there though
AGREED.... too much $$$$ in weapons... too much $$$ in lobbying
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Never been a fan on this jerk/commie Sean Penn, other than when he played Jeff Spicole of course, but was wondering what people thought of his decision to be in this Gunman movie. Perhaps he is having rough times financially and needs a big payday?? Or Is he coming to the reality that he really is becoming irrelevant and needs to get his name back out there... A la his dumb ass "inside joke" comment at the Oscars . I love shoot em up movies like the next guy, but Hollywood phonies like him need to be called out when they so blatantly contradict themselves.
like many others have said, it's an acting role. should someone who is white playing a slave owner be called a racist bigot?
I can't blame the guy for giving in and making a gun totting action flick. Besides, my theory is that a good nature d guy like Penn will do some good with the wealth he garners. He does seem to put his money where his mouth is. Hey maybe Eddie will be a bad guy or a cop and blow a few dudes away in the flick and then we'll really have something to discuss then, now won't we.
why would it be considered giving in? he's not using a real gun and shooting real bullets. he's playing a role. most actors love playing roles that are as far from themselves as possible. that's the joy and challenge of acting.
Never been a fan on this jerk/commie Sean Penn, other than when he played Jeff Spicole of course, but was wondering what people thought of his decision to be in this Gunman movie. Perhaps he is having rough times financially and needs a big payday?? Or Is he coming to the reality that he really is becoming irrelevant and needs to get his name back out there... A la his dumb ass "inside joke" comment at the Oscars . I love shoot em up movies like the next guy, but Hollywood phonies like him need to be called out when they so blatantly contradict themselves.
why a jerk/commie? because he criticizes the american government and their domestic and foreign policies?
@lolo, i see what you're saying, but would have to argue that it doesn't matter. laws are for the law abiding. if you make it so guns are completely illegal, the same people that were criminals before are still criminals now, they're gonna find a black market gun to commit crimes with. the only thing you've done is make it so regular ordinary citizens that want to be able to defend themselves are now criminals too. and what's their crime? that they want to be able to defend themselves against armed criminals. i don't understand how you could say to someone that they should be executed or spend life in jail for just wanting to survive. yeah you could execute every single person caught with a gun, there's still gonna be gun violence, there's still gonna be guns. so personally, i don't think life in prison or the death penalty is an acceptable punishment to minimize gun violence, hell i don't think executing innocent people is worth it even if it actually did work and completely eliminated gun violence.
@Paulo, they do use real guns in movies. they don't use real bullets but they do use real guns. and if an actor glorified being a slave owner in the majority of his movies, then told everyone how horrible and despicable slavery is, but to make sure to come to his new movie where he beats, kills, rapes, and humiliates his slaves....i would say he's a counter productive worthless asshole not to be taken seriously.
if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
@lolo, i see what you're saying, but would have to argue that it doesn't matter. laws are for the law abiding. if you make it so guns are completely illegal, the same people that were criminals before are still criminals now, they're gonna find a black market gun to commit crimes with. the only thing you've done is make it so regular ordinary citizens that want to be able to defend themselves are now criminals too. and what's their crime? that they want to be able to defend themselves against armed criminals. i don't understand how you could say to someone that they should be executed or spend life in jail for just wanting to survive. yeah you could execute every single person caught with a gun, there's still gonna be gun violence, there's still gonna be guns. so personally, i don't think life in prison or the death penalty is an acceptable punishment to minimize gun violence, hell i don't think executing innocent people is worth it even if it actually did work and completely eliminated gun violence.
@Paulo, they do use real guns in movies. they don't use real bullets but they do use real guns. and if an actor glorified being a slave owner in the majority of his movies, then told everyone how horrible and despicable slavery is, but to make sure to come to his new movie where he beats, kills, rapes, and humiliates his slaves....i would say he's a counter productive worthless asshole not to be taken seriously.
yes, death penalty is an extreme example. as I said, this will never happen anyway because of the gun lobby. I just wanted to make the point that the deterrent has to be extreme enough before anything changes. if murder wasn't (potentially)punishable by death or life imprisonment then I guarantee you that the murder rate would go up exponentially. so applying this logic to banning handguns is the same idea. now you might not think it is correct but under this law no one with a handgun would be "innocent". I see handguns as having one purpose- to kill humans. keep your rifles and shotguns.... but we need to ban handguns.
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@lolo, i see what you're saying, but would have to argue that it doesn't matter. laws are for the law abiding. if you make it so guns are completely illegal, the same people that were criminals before are still criminals now, they're gonna find a black market gun to commit crimes with. the only thing you've done is make it so regular ordinary citizens that want to be able to defend themselves are now criminals too. and what's their crime? that they want to be able to defend themselves against armed criminals. i don't understand how you could say to someone that they should be executed or spend life in jail for just wanting to survive. yeah you could execute every single person caught with a gun, there's still gonna be gun violence, there's still gonna be guns. so personally, i don't think life in prison or the death penalty is an acceptable punishment to minimize gun violence, hell i don't think executing innocent people is worth it even if it actually did work and completely eliminated gun violence.
@Paulo, they do use real guns in movies. they don't use real bullets but they do use real guns. and if an actor glorified being a slave owner in the majority of his movies, then told everyone how horrible and despicable slavery is, but to make sure to come to his new movie where he beats, kills, rapes, and humiliates his slaves....i would say he's a counter productive worthless asshole not to be taken seriously.
yes, death penalty is an extreme example. as I said, this will never happen anyway because of the gun lobby. I just wanted to make the point that the deterrent has to be extreme enough before anything changes. if murder wasn't (potentially)punishable by death or life imprisonment then I guarantee you that the murder rate would go up exponentially. so applying this logic to banning handguns is the same idea. now you might not think it is correct but under this law no one with a handgun would be "innocent". I see handguns as having one purpose- to kill humans. keep your rifles and shotguns.... but we need to ban handguns.
Two points to refute your statement. First, it's well established that the murder rate is currently and historically much lower in countries that don't have the death penalty compared to the US, which does. Second, the vast majority of murders are committed by people who are not thinking through the consequences and making a reasoned choice; thus, the threat of eventual punishment, whether it be life in prison or death penalty, is never going to be an effective deterrence for murder. With the rather small exception of things like gang-related killings, most murders are very in-the-moment and due to rage.
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@lolo, i see what you're saying, but would have to argue that it doesn't matter. laws are for the law abiding. if you make it so guns are completely illegal, the same people that were criminals before are still criminals now, they're gonna find a black market gun to commit crimes with. the only thing you've done is make it so regular ordinary citizens that want to be able to defend themselves are now criminals too. and what's their crime? that they want to be able to defend themselves against armed criminals. i don't understand how you could say to someone that they should be executed or spend life in jail for just wanting to survive. yeah you could execute every single person caught with a gun, there's still gonna be gun violence, there's still gonna be guns. so personally, i don't think life in prison or the death penalty is an acceptable punishment to minimize gun violence, hell i don't think executing innocent people is worth it even if it actually did work and completely eliminated gun violence.
@Paulo, they do use real guns in movies. they don't use real bullets but they do use real guns. and if an actor glorified being a slave owner in the majority of his movies, then told everyone how horrible and despicable slavery is, but to make sure to come to his new movie where he beats, kills, rapes, and humiliates his slaves....i would say he's a counter productive worthless asshole not to be taken seriously.
actually, I would say he's doing good work, showing people how awful slave owners were and how fucking stupid you have to be to be racist. I've never seen a movie where being a slave owner was "glorified".
@lolo, i see what you're saying, but would have to argue that it doesn't matter. laws are for the law abiding. if you make it so guns are completely illegal, the same people that were criminals before are still criminals now, they're gonna find a black market gun to commit crimes with. the only thing you've done is make it so regular ordinary citizens that want to be able to defend themselves are now criminals too. and what's their crime? that they want to be able to defend themselves against armed criminals. i don't understand how you could say to someone that they should be executed or spend life in jail for just wanting to survive. yeah you could execute every single person caught with a gun, there's still gonna be gun violence, there's still gonna be guns. so personally, i don't think life in prison or the death penalty is an acceptable punishment to minimize gun violence, hell i don't think executing innocent people is worth it even if it actually did work and completely eliminated gun violence.
@Paulo, they do use real guns in movies. they don't use real bullets but they do use real guns. and if an actor glorified being a slave owner in the majority of his movies, then told everyone how horrible and despicable slavery is, but to make sure to come to his new movie where he beats, kills, rapes, and humiliates his slaves....i would say he's a counter productive worthless asshole not to be taken seriously.
yes, death penalty is an extreme example. as I said, this will never happen anyway because of the gun lobby. I just wanted to make the point that the deterrent has to be extreme enough before anything changes. if murder wasn't (potentially)punishable by death or life imprisonment then I guarantee you that the murder rate would go up exponentially. so applying this logic to banning handguns is the same idea. now you might not think it is correct but under this law no one with a handgun would be "innocent". I see handguns as having one purpose- to kill humans. keep your rifles and shotguns.... but we need to ban handguns.
Two points to refute your statement. First, it's well established that the murder rate is currently and historically much lower in countries that don't have the death penalty compared to the US, which does. Second, the vast majority of murders are committed by people who are not thinking through the consequences and making a reasoned choice; thus, the threat of eventual punishment, whether it be life in prison or death penalty, is never going to be an effective deterrence for murder. With the rather small exception of things like gang-related killings, most murders are very in-the-moment and due to rage.
Not to disagree totally.... and not to shift blame.. but the US is a different animal. just look at the gun culture. our country was created with violence, taking people's land, infecting the natives with smallpox, overthrowing the government. take away the death penalty in America and I assure you- the murder rate would skyrocket. look at Zimmerman and the guy who shot those kids because he didn't like their music. there are a lot of "americans" out there armed to the teeth ready to use "self defense" against people that they don't like.
for the record I support the death penalty only for Pre-meditated murder and child rapists.
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
I do agree with whoever said it, that neeson is worse than penn. it's comical when you sit back and look at it. hey everybody, guns are so terrible, they're the worst thing in the world responsible for all this death and mayhem. oh by the way come check out my new movie where I play my usual badass self, kicking ass and taking names with all sorts of guns. I show in my movies that guns are awesome, cool, save lives, and are a completely necessary part of life........but don't forget..... guns are bad!!!!
if I was an actor, and I publicly vocalized how disturbed I was about how women are treated, that women are precious and we really need to honor and cherish them, and in the same breath told you to come check out my new movie where I play my usual role of a pimp. where i'll be slappin bitches pimpin out hoes for money and just doing my pimp thing. no one would see that as hypocritical or at the very least counter productive? i'd just be an artist exploring difficult roles?? bull shit. but again, it goes back to that anti gun mindset, it's ok to glorify guns and gun violence as long as you're against guns at the end of the day.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
and I really liked your pun, I chuckled.
edited to say, when I have brought this up before, the replies I got were, that the group of people that defended themselves against getting murdered, raped and robbed are a smaller group than those who are being killed by guns. that's it, just majority rules, no ideas or thoughts on how to protect that minority, just this groups bigger so this groups better. and my personal favorite, that having a gun for protection will "escalate" the situation if you're a victim of a crime. as if people out there don't get murdered, robbed and raped if they just sit there, close there eyes and click their heels three times saying there's no place like home. for some reason, people think that if you just cross your fingers and pray, it'll be all good in the neighborhood because criminals only want to hurt you if you defend yourself against the crime they're perpetuating against you.
that's what people don't want to hear and that's why getting handguns off of American streets will never happen. too much lobbying power by the NRA. if you passed a law (stating that if you are caught with a handgun, you get an automatic life sentence or the death penalty) you would eventually see handgun crimes decrease to very small levels. the deterrent is not there. I don't believe arming everyone is the solution. remember- the only purpose of a concealed weapon is to harm/murder a human being. you don't need a concealed weapon to hunt wild animals.
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@Paulo, they do use real guns in movies. they don't use real bullets but they do use real guns. and if an actor glorified being a slave owner in the majority of his movies, then told everyone how horrible and despicable slavery is, but to make sure to come to his new movie where he beats, kills, rapes, and humiliates his slaves....i would say he's a counter productive worthless asshole not to be taken seriously.
keep your rifles and shotguns.... but we need to ban handguns.
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but the US is a different animal. just look at the gun culture. our country was created with violence, taking people's land, infecting the natives with smallpox, overthrowing the government. take away the death penalty in America and I assure you- the murder rate would skyrocket. look at Zimmerman and the guy who shot those kids because he didn't like their music. there are a lot of "americans" out there armed to the teeth ready to use "self defense" against people that they don't like.
for the record I support the death penalty only for Pre-meditated murder and child rapists.
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but the ones who think twice about it and don't go thru with it are.
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2010- Bristow, VA
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