Afroman punches girl on stage

Thirty Bills Unpaid

gimmesometruth27 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

paulonious said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

paulonious said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

you can sue anybody for anything in this country. it might get laughed out of court, but you can sue anyone and seek damages for the slightest perceived wrong. depends on the judge and jury.

of course you can. but it seems you are advocating for her to do this? is that what you are saying?

if she suffered injury in a place hosting a concert where alcohol is sold, there is liability there. so yeah, she should sue to get her medical bills paid. i am sure they have insurance to cover things like this.

You are speaking to two things:

1. The reality.
2. One of the problems with your country.

She likely does have a lawsuit, but she sure as hell shouldn't. It's the blame game.

did she reasonably expect to get knocked the fuck out?

the venue didn't knock her out. the contracted performer did. she went on stage where the general public are generally not allowed. what you are saying is the venue is at fault for not protecting this drunk from herself. I don't personally agree with that line of thinking.

Blaming the venue for not having somebody there to stop herself from being herself. "It's not my fault I'm a doosh!"

I don't agree with that line of thinking either.

disagree all you want. all i am saying is that she will find an attorney to sue the venue, and she will get a settlement out of it. who knows, maybe the settlement will just be that they are required to provide more security.

And all I'm saying is there is something fundamentally wrong with that.

I realize you are only speaking the reality to the situation. This doesn't make it right though: blaming others for your actions.

I fall down a set of stairs that is not unlike the countless other stairs I have successfully navigated throughout my lifetime... and you are to blame. Not me- the careless klutz- you... the homeowner who happened to be the homeowner when I carelessly lost my footing on a set of stairs.

It's ridiculous.

HughFreakingDillon

gimmesometruth27 said:

if someone falls down the steps on my front porch they can sue my insurance company for treatment of injuries they incur.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I KNOW that is how it works there. I'm not arguing what CAN be done. I'm just kind of surprised that you seem to be a cheerleader for this type of thing.

Just because the venue has insurance doesn't mean it's ok to exploit it. This is the type of mentality that makes insurance so expensive for everyone, including future insurance of the venue.

Falling down steps at your house is one thing. You are responsible for that. that's not really comparable to a third party causing injury. Maybe if your plumber pushed her down the stairs? I don't know. I still think that wouldn't be your fault, it would be between her and your plumber.

I still think if there is any lawsuit against anyone, it should be against the perpertator of the act. not the ones holding the event.

Thirty Bills Unpaid

So, obviously, Orchard Park will face a law suit because their railings weren't high enough to deter people from sliding down them?

The facility had an inherent responsibility to account for the stupidity in people and safeguard the fools from being tempted to do something completely moronic.

HughFreakingDillon

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

So, obviously, Orchard Park will face a law suit because their railings weren't high enough to deter people from sliding down them?

The facility had an inherent responsibility to account for the stupidity in people and safeguard the fools from being tempted to do something completely moronic.

only if afroman slapped him upside the head when he landed.

"cause I fell from high, fell from high, fe-ell from high-eye"

HughFreakingDillon

haha, didn't even know that smiley existed. scroll over it to see how it reads. LOL

dignin

paulonious said:

haha, didn't even know that smiley existed. scroll over it to see how it reads. LOL

Fuck Yeah!!

gimmesometruth27

paulonious said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if someone falls down the steps on my front porch they can sue my insurance company for treatment of injuries they incur.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I KNOW that is how it works there. I'm not arguing what CAN be done. I'm just kind of surprised that you seem to be a cheerleader for this type of thing.

Just because the venue has insurance doesn't mean it's ok to exploit it. This is the type of mentality that makes insurance so expensive for everyone, including future insurance of the venue.

Falling down steps at your house is one thing. You are responsible for that. that's not really comparable to a third party causing injury. Maybe if your plumber pushed her down the stairs? I don't know. I still think that wouldn't be your fault, it would be between her and your plumber.

I still think if there is any lawsuit against anyone, it should be against the perpertator of the act. not the ones holding the event.

i am not exploiting it. i am not advocating it. perhaps my cynicism has made me careless with the message i was contributing to the debate. i am not saying i advocate it at all. i am just saying what is going to happen and what an attorney worth 5 cents would argue.

HughFreakingDillon

gimmesometruth27 said:

paulonious said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

if someone falls down the steps on my front porch they can sue my insurance company for treatment of injuries they incur.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I KNOW that is how it works there. I'm not arguing what CAN be done. I'm just kind of surprised that you seem to be a cheerleader for this type of thing.

Just because the venue has insurance doesn't mean it's ok to exploit it. This is the type of mentality that makes insurance so expensive for everyone, including future insurance of the venue.

Falling down steps at your house is one thing. You are responsible for that. that's not really comparable to a third party causing injury. Maybe if your plumber pushed her down the stairs? I don't know. I still think that wouldn't be your fault, it would be between her and your plumber.

I still think if there is any lawsuit against anyone, it should be against the perpertator of the act. not the ones holding the event.

i am not exploiting it. i am not advocating it. perhaps my cynicism has made me careless with the message i was contributing to the debate. i am not saying i advocate it at all. i am just saying what is going to happen and what an attorney worth 5 cents would argue.

ok, but seems a bit of backtracking, when just earlier you said this:

"this woman should sue the venue as well."

you didn't say she "will" or "could". you said she "should". you also asked "where was security?". it seemed like you were blaming the venue and the woman first and second and the man that threw the punch a distant third.

that was my understanding of your posts, anyway.

gimmesometruth27

told ya. should i be an attorney or what??

https://lockerdome.com/tmz/7433466597881876

That Knockout Is Gonna Cost Him ... The woman Afroman sucker punched during a concert this week is getting ready to strike back ... in court. TMZ has learned the woman -- a 21-year-old named Haley -- hired an attorney ... who tells us Haley suffered multiple injuries to her neck, jaw and back after the attack. Her lawyer Tim Holleman also thinks she may have suffered a mild concussion ... since she doesn't remember the punch. Even though our video shows Haley wandering on stage -- Holleman says the venue should bare some responsibility since security did nothing to remove her.

Jason P

Attorneys go where the money is ... and I don't think that path leads to Afroman whose net assets are most likely the trade-in value of a 1993 Ford E-Series van.

HughFreakingDillon

gimmesometruth27 said:

told ya. should i be an attorney or what??

https://lockerdome.com/tmz/7433466597881876

That Knockout Is Gonna Cost Him ... The woman Afroman sucker punched during a concert this week is getting ready to strike back ... in court. TMZ has learned the woman -- a 21-year-old named Haley -- hired an attorney ... who tells us Haley suffered multiple injuries to her neck, jaw and back after the attack. Her lawyer Tim Holleman also thinks she may have suffered a mild concussion ... since she doesn't remember the punch. Even though our video shows Haley wandering on stage -- Holleman says the venue should bare some responsibility since security did nothing to remove her.

no one disagreed that it would happen. we disagreed that it should happen.

if I have a party and one of my guests slugs another and the sluggee tries to blame me, I laugh at him and tell him to shut the fuck up before I slug him. go after the perp, not the host.

in my opinion, the venue is responsible for patron safety from issues with the venue itself, not other people in the venue.

that is just so........ 'murican.

maybe the venue should countersue that she bares some responsibility for not using the brain in her skull.

brianlux

I don't know who is or can or will sue who but I know whose career and music I won't be taking an interest in! Way to flush your career down the toilet, Afroman.