Odd that it took someone getting burned alive before a lot of the other militants are like "Come on, man. Cutting off heads with steak knives, now that's one thing, but burning someone alive, now that's over the line."
I'm pretty sure Liveleaks would have the clip if one was inclined.
Nothing is left to the imagination any more. I feel that access to such events is part of the reason why we seem to be experiencing a 'spike' in depraved behaviours- not from anyone on here... but on the part of people who's developing minds have seen things they simply should not have seen.
My son came to me a little while back after seeing something horrific. He told me what he had seen in class on a girl's phone and he said it was really bothering him. I asked to see it. He brought it up for me and left the room. After watching what he had watched, I needed parental skills that I wasn't confidently equipped with: explaining to my 16 year old son that the world was a cruel place in some parts.
My father never needed to have that chat with me. We're in a changing world- for better or worse.
I've become so desensitized from all the videos of syria and Isis that I can watch ANYTHING. And yes u are correct, that shit NEVER leaves you. When I saw 3 guys and a hammer video, I stayed up for days wondering how people can do shit like that. After seeing soooooo many fucken videos on syria and Isis, ive become a shell of the man I used to be. We live in a sick sick fucken world.
The video is still on FOX. It just took me 3 seconds to find it.
But I am telling you.
If you choose to watch this.
Your entire day is going to take a turn for the worse.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
What I find odd is that a 15 year old Palestinian boy was burned alive just last summer and it didn't generate as much publicity as this soldiers. That's odd.
Hate Breeds hate there is no answer to satisfy the Religious Zealots who kill in the name of their God , you can wipe all the ISIS off the Earth and once their kids are old enough to carry a weapon they will step right in line .....
very true but nobody want to say or know the real answer to the problem as vile as it may be
also what f the ISIS fucks hunkered down in other countries ? I doubt they will just give up with a simple body drop(although I like that idea) and besides this asshats sacrefice kids for thier cause so what really would be the answer.
Knowing what we already know about it, why would you watch it? Will it change your opinion on anything, or give you information you are currently missing? I think it will just add a visceral kick that will feel significant but won't actually be.
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What I find odd is that a 15 year old Palestinian boy was burned alive just last summer and it didn't generate as much publicity as this soldiers. That's odd.
That is odd. Was there videotape? Could be that humans need to see video before true outrage, like the Ray Rice punching of wife.
These guys have been doing this crap for the last several years and it took this video for everyone to show true outrage.
I'm pretty sure Liveleaks would have the clip if one was inclined.
Nothing is left to the imagination any more. I feel that access to such events is part of the reason why we seem to be experiencing a 'spike' in depraved behaviours- not from anyone on here... but on the part of people who's developing minds have seen things they simply should not have seen.
My son came to me a little while back after seeing something horrific. He told me what he had seen in class on a girl's phone and he said it was really bothering him. I asked to see it. He brought it up for me and left the room. After watching what he had watched, I needed parental skills that I wasn't confidently equipped with: explaining to my 16 year old son that the world was a cruel place in some parts.
My father never needed to have that chat with me. We're in a changing world- for better or worse.
Yes, a Changing World.
And from where I sit.
From my point of view.
It is certainly changing for the worse.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
The video is on a site that reports on the crimes of Islam (I was shown this site today by a colleague, but cannot comment on it as I quickly navigated away from it) site called Bare naked Islam, but I will definitely not be watching it - absolutely no interest. The stills were horrible enough.
BBC had a video yesterday of a group of men forcibly holding down a man who was struggling to within an inch of his life to resist, as they were bringing a sword down on his neck....they cut the footage before the horrific bit, but even that was enough. Then to read the report of the gay man thrown from a building who survived the fall to then be stoned to death whilst in agony.......just enough.....enough....
Just watched the video. Man, it was pretty fucked up no doubt. Did find some weird shit in the video that I found very odd. Like why would he need to refuel when jordan and syria are neighbors. And on a side note, if you watch the video, you could see circassian (my people) guards guarding the king. Not Arab guards but circassian guards. Pretty cool.
Just watched the video. Man, it was pretty fucked up no doubt. Did find some weird shit in the video that I found very odd. Like why would he need to refuel when jordan and syria are neighbors. And on a side note, if you watch the video, you could see circassian (my people) guards guarding the king. Not Arab guards but circassian guards. Pretty cool.
But DEF don't watch the video, it's fucken bad.
One of the most horrifying things I have ever seen. But yet I watched it, knowing it was going to be gruesome.
Take me piece by piece..... Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
And FYI guys, I've seen videos of Isis burn 3 civilians to death this morning. Dumped them into a grave on fire. This isn't the first time this has happened.
And FYI guys, I've seen videos of Isis burn 3 civilians to death this morning. Dumped them into a grave on fire. This isn't the first time this has happened.
and there are still people actively seeking to join them
BB,correct me if I'm wrong,but the added outrage in the Muslim world over this act in particular is that it's considered the highest form of disrespect to burn someone alive correct?
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Hate Breeds hate there is no answer to satisfy the Religious Zealots who kill in the name of their God , you can wipe all the ISIS off the Earth and once their kids are old enough to carry a weapon they will step right in line .....
Stay classy Fox News. You're doing oh so well at causing even more fear (and who thought that was possible?) among your fearful viewers.
Terrorism expert Rick Nelson explained why Fox News erred by giving ISIS an American platform, “They’re a terror organisation. They seek to strike terror in the hearts and minds of people globally, and by perpetuating these videos and putting them out there into the internet, it certainly expands the audience and potential effects. These groups need a platform, and this gives them a platform.”
This may come as a surprise to Fox News, but it possible to report the news without helping the terrorists spread their propaganda. The decision to publish the video was a sensationalistic attempt to get attention on the part of Fox News. What Fox News did was aid and assist ISIS by publishing their video.
The goal of terrorism is not to kill. Terrorists want to spread fear. By giving ISIS a platform in the United States, Fox News has given ISIS a platform.
...Fox News executive editor John Moody defended giving ISIS a platform to spread terror and fear, “After careful consideration, we decided that giving readers of FoxNews.com the option to see for themselves the barbarity of ISIS outweighed legitimate concerns about the graphic nature of the video. Online users can choose to view or not view this disturbing content.”
So now that everyone seems to agree isis needs to be wiped out in any way shape or form can we put 100,000 - 300,000 coalition troops back into Iraq to support the small american and canadian contingent? We can start there and then work our way through Syria, Libya etc. as necessary. I have been arguing for this for a little while and I'm glad most of you no longer see the defeat of isis as a big lie on the path to western imperialism.
I think the bigger story is Fox News showing it. We already know we have a dangerous group the world has to deal with. The question is why FOX NEWS thinks it was a good idea to offer ISIS a platform.
So now that everyone seems to agree isis needs to be wiped out in any way shape or form can we put 100,000 - 300,000 coalition troops back into Iraq to support the small american and canadian contingent? We can start there and then work our way through Syria, Libya etc. as necessary. I have been arguing for this for a little while and I'm glad most of you no longer see the defeat of isis as a big lie on the path to western imperialism.
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm still here, and this is not unanimous.
I guess maybe Jordan shouldn't have been providing bases for US soldiers (mercenaries?) to train ISIS militants for the last few years? Or should we call it the FSA since they're fighting Assad? As bb has pointed out - Assad knows his army could destroy the IS if it's supply routes were cut off.
The uprising there has gone on for years now - it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the IS have received a shitload of reinforcements and additional arms from outside the country. It's been claimed since the beginning that Jordan, Turkey, Qatar, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia are ALL involved in arming, training, and funding ISIS. Joe Biden openly stated this recently - specifically fingering Turkey.
These countries are allies of the US. So....why do we not see some kind of trade leverage (or at least threats of trade leverage) used to tell them to stop funding/training the IS? What is the impetus behind mere words against these allies, and NO action? Could it be that the IS is in some way achieving goals that the US does not want publicized? Finding conclusive proof of this may not be possible, but former intelligence officers, journalists (both domestic and international), foreign politicians, even IS members themselves have gone on record saying they have knowledge of the US / NATO manipulating both sides of the IS conflict. "accidental" supply/arms drops to the IS in Iraq. "mistakenly" arming groups who almost immediately defected to the IS. Photographic proof of IS reinforcements crossing the Turkey/Syria border in 'aid' trucks. Some of this may be wild-eyed theory, but where there is smoke, there's fire.
I have spoken about western / allied involvement with the IS on this board many times, with little feedback one way or the other...what do you say to these claims, BS? Talk to me about the contradiction of not allowing Assad a fair chance against them, when Syria is the country most able and likely to 'wipe them out', as everyone seems to think is the west's intent? Why is there no talk of 'the lesser of two evils' when it comes to Assad and the IS?
What remains to be seen is what Jordan's role in all of this will be moving forward. Such a fucking mess trying to decipher who is allied with who here, as it seems to change depending on which country we are talking about fighting ISIS in. One thing I do know is that Jordan is a middle eastern US client state.. So ya....not going to back your suggestion of NATO troops on the ground when we can't even figure out who the fucking enemy is, and have done nothing to solve the problem economically nor diplomatically.
You want to shock the soldiers of Isis? U want to put "some" fear in their soldiers. I have the answer.
Isis wants their hostages released? No problem. Tell them You're gonna release them. Give them a meeting point, then drop these sick fucks from a black hawk right on top of them. From say, 1000 ft up. This way these sick Isis fucks can see what's gonna happen to them when they are caught. And also, the sick Isis hostages would die a gruesome death.
What people would you want to carry out this act? You certainly couldn't do it yourself so how would that shit get done?
I am as outraged as others on this topic and want a lot to happen to these ispiss guys too but just not sure who would carry out my horrible thoughts. What your reaction be if American soldiers retaliated exactly the way you describe?
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Nothing is left to the imagination any more. I feel that access to such events is part of the reason why we seem to be experiencing a 'spike' in depraved behaviours- not from anyone on here... but on the part of people who's developing minds have seen things they simply should not have seen.
My son came to me a little while back after seeing something horrific. He told me what he had seen in class on a girl's phone and he said it was really bothering him. I asked to see it. He brought it up for me and left the room. After watching what he had watched, I needed parental skills that I wasn't confidently equipped with: explaining to my 16 year old son that the world was a cruel place in some parts.
My father never needed to have that chat with me. We're in a changing world- for better or worse.
But I am telling you.
If you choose to watch this.
Your entire day is going to take a turn for the worse.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
very true but nobody want to say or know the real answer to the problem as vile as it may be
also what f the ISIS fucks hunkered down in other countries ? I doubt they will just give up with a simple body drop(although I like that idea) and besides this asshats sacrefice kids for thier cause so what really would be the answer.
Godfather.
That is odd. Was there videotape? Could be that humans need to see video before true outrage, like the Ray Rice punching of wife.
These guys have been doing this crap for the last several years and it took this video for everyone to show true outrage.
And from where I sit.
From my point of view.
It is certainly changing for the worse.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
BBC had a video yesterday of a group of men forcibly holding down a man who was struggling to within an inch of his life to resist, as they were bringing a sword down on his neck....they cut the footage before the horrific bit, but even that was enough. Then to read the report of the gay man thrown from a building who survived the fall to then be stoned to death whilst in agony.......just enough.....enough....
But DEF don't watch the video, it's fucken bad.
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
and there are still people actively seeking to join them
unfuckingreal
Maybe drop 9 of them, then wait 30 seconds. Then drop the tenth guy with a bomb strapped to his ass.
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/03/intl_world/amanpour-didier-francois/index.html
I guess maybe Jordan shouldn't have been providing bases for US soldiers (mercenaries?) to train ISIS militants for the last few years? Or should we call it the FSA since they're fighting Assad? As bb has pointed out - Assad knows his army could destroy the IS if it's supply routes were cut off.
The uprising there has gone on for years now - it is obvious to anyone with a brain that the IS have received a shitload of reinforcements and additional arms from outside the country. It's been claimed since the beginning that Jordan, Turkey, Qatar, the UAE, and Saudi Arabia are ALL involved in arming, training, and funding ISIS. Joe Biden openly stated this recently - specifically fingering Turkey.
These countries are allies of the US. So....why do we not see some kind of trade leverage (or at least threats of trade leverage) used to tell them to stop funding/training the IS? What is the impetus behind mere words against these allies, and NO action? Could it be that the IS is in some way achieving goals that the US does not want publicized? Finding conclusive proof of this may not be possible, but former intelligence officers, journalists (both domestic and international), foreign politicians, even IS members themselves have gone on record saying they have knowledge of the US / NATO manipulating both sides of the IS conflict. "accidental" supply/arms drops to the IS in Iraq. "mistakenly" arming groups who almost immediately defected to the IS. Photographic proof of IS reinforcements crossing the Turkey/Syria border in 'aid' trucks. Some of this may be wild-eyed theory, but where there is smoke, there's fire.
I have spoken about western / allied involvement with the IS on this board many times, with little feedback one way or the other...what do you say to these claims, BS? Talk to me about the contradiction of not allowing Assad a fair chance against them, when Syria is the country most able and likely to 'wipe them out', as everyone seems to think is the west's intent? Why is there no talk of 'the lesser of two evils' when it comes to Assad and the IS?
What remains to be seen is what Jordan's role in all of this will be moving forward. Such a fucking mess trying to decipher who is allied with who here, as it seems to change depending on which country we are talking about fighting ISIS in. One thing I do know is that Jordan is a middle eastern US client state.. So ya....not going to back your suggestion of NATO troops on the ground when we can't even figure out who the fucking enemy is, and have done nothing to solve the problem economically nor diplomatically.
What people would you want to carry out this act? You certainly couldn't do it yourself so how would that shit get done?
I am as outraged as others on this topic and want a lot to happen to these ispiss guys too but just not sure who would carry out my horrible thoughts. What your reaction be if American soldiers retaliated exactly the way you describe?
Would it neutralize your anger?