Do Aliens Exist?

Last-12-Exit

No

You post an overly produced video claiming its Neil Armstrong talking to Houston from the moon. For all you know that was a recorded phone call dubbed on a video of the moon landing. Bring something real to the table if you want to be taken seriously.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Last-12-Exit said:

You post an overly produced video claiming its Neil Armstrong talking to Houston from the moon. For all you know that was a recorded phone call dubbed on a video of the moon landing. Bring something real to the table if you want to be taken seriously.

i know exactly what i post..this is real, you want it or not..but i'm not suprised..

Godfather.

No

chadwick said:

folks not from this planet rock out to this
https://youtu.be/KMGSXIjU2Js

friggin awesome ! the Mighty Zep rocks all worlds !

Godfather.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

https://youtu.be/6vaKi3dmSTk

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

really not sure how paintings from hundreds of years ago of fictional stories proves the existence of anything. So not only was christ the son if god, but aliens were present at his cricifiction? It was the aliens all along! And all this time everyone blamed the jews!

badbrains

Yes, and they have visited Earth

I would say it's pretty weird to have pics of flying things in a time when they didn't have anything remotely like them. They must of had one hell of an imagination to paint things like that back then.

oftenreading

Imagination has never been in short supply with the human race.

23scidoo

Yes, and they have visited Earth

badbrains said:

I would say it's pretty weird to have pics of flying things in a time when they didn't have anything remotely like them. They must of had one hell of an imagination to paint things like that back then.

thats my point badbrains..

badbrains

Yes, and they have visited Earth

23scidoo said:

badbrains said:

I would say it's pretty weird to have pics of flying things in a time when they didn't have anything remotely like them. They must of had one hell of an imagination to paint things like that back then.

thats my point badbrains..

I'm with you buddy.

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

DaVinci sketched a helicopter, and Jules Vern wrote about flying to the moon in 1865. West Coast Natives have stories about talking ravens thst make no sense, and the Bible has shit like burning talking bushes and giant voices in the sky and people rising from the dead. I don't think that drawings or stories about flying objects means much of anything by themselves. Oftenreading said it - there is no shortage of imagination when it comes to humans. All a person has to do is see a bird, and the imagination takes flying from there. Not that i am completely ruling out the possibility that some of these drawings, etc depict reality... but I don't see it as evidence by itself.

badbrains

Yes, and they have visited Earth

PJ_Soul said:

DaVinci sketched a helicopter, and Jules Vern wrote about flying to the moon in 1865. West Coast Natives have stories about talking ravens thst make no sense, and the Bible has shit like burning talking bushes and giant voices in the sky and people rising from the dead. I don't think that drawings or stories about flying objects means much of anything by themselves. Oftenreading said it - there is no shortage of imagination when it comes to humans. All a person has to do is see a bird, and the imagination takes flying from there. Not that i am completely ruling out the possibility that some of these drawings, etc depict reality... but I don't see it as evidence by itself.

You're talking about a time when nobody has ever seen flying objects. Think about it. They didn't have TV or anything like that. Nobody just sits there bored and says this is what a flying machine will look like in the future and draw it 1000's of years before. Come on, let's be real here.

oftenreading

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

DaVinci sketched a helicopter, and Jules Vern wrote about flying to the moon in 1865. West Coast Natives have stories about talking ravens thst make no sense, and the Bible has shit like burning talking bushes and giant voices in the sky and people rising from the dead. I don't think that drawings or stories about flying objects means much of anything by themselves. Oftenreading said it - there is no shortage of imagination when it comes to humans. All a person has to do is see a bird, and the imagination takes flying from there. Not that i am completely ruling out the possibility that some of these drawings, etc depict reality... but I don't see it as evidence by itself.

You're talking about a time when nobody has ever seen flying objects. Think about it. They didn't have TV or anything like that. Nobody just sits there bored and says this is what a flying machine will look like in the future and draw it 1000's of years before. Come on, let's be real here.

So what flying machines had Da Vinci already seen when he sketched his plans around 1485? Unless I'm misunderstanding your point; it seems like you are arguing against people having the imagination to visualize this.

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

DaVinci sketched a helicopter, and Jules Vern wrote about flying to the moon in 1865. West Coast Natives have stories about talking ravens thst make no sense, and the Bible has shit like burning talking bushes and giant voices in the sky and people rising from the dead. I don't think that drawings or stories about flying objects means much of anything by themselves. Oftenreading said it - there is no shortage of imagination when it comes to humans. All a person has to do is see a bird, and the imagination takes flying from there. Not that i am completely ruling out the possibility that some of these drawings, etc depict reality... but I don't see it as evidence by itself.

You're talking about a time when nobody has ever seen flying objects. Think about it. They didn't have TV or anything like that. Nobody just sits there bored and says this is what a flying machine will look like in the future and draw it 1000's of years before. Come on, let's be real here.

Birds fly. Balls that you throw fly. The sun, the moon, the stars, the clouds, the northern lights, atmospheric phenomenon... all.up.in the sky for them to see. I don't think it's at all far fetched to think that they invented flying objects through story-telling/imagination combined with actually seeing all these kinds of natural things in the sky that they couldn't explain. They didn't even know Wtf the sun was back then.
I am a believer obviously... but I'm a bit of a skeptic, or at least a questioner, when it comes to a lot of "evidence" as well.

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

PJ_Soul said:

DaVinci sketched a helicopter, and Jules Vern wrote about flying to the moon in 1865. West Coast Natives have stories about talking ravens thst make no sense, and the Bible has shit like burning talking bushes and giant voices in the sky and people rising from the dead. I don't think that drawings or stories about flying objects means much of anything by themselves. Oftenreading said it - there is no shortage of imagination when it comes to humans. All a person has to do is see a bird, and the imagination takes flying from there. Not that i am completely ruling out the possibility that some of these drawings, etc depict reality... but I don't see it as evidence by itself.

exactly.

and when it's pictured next to someone who I believe to be fictitious, then it not only adds no credence, it takes away from it.

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

oftenreading said:

badbrains said:

PJ_Soul said:

DaVinci sketched a helicopter, and Jules Vern wrote about flying to the moon in 1865. West Coast Natives have stories about talking ravens thst make no sense, and the Bible has shit like burning talking bushes and giant voices in the sky and people rising from the dead. I don't think that drawings or stories about flying objects means much of anything by themselves. Oftenreading said it - there is no shortage of imagination when it comes to humans. All a person has to do is see a bird, and the imagination takes flying from there. Not that i am completely ruling out the possibility that some of these drawings, etc depict reality... but I don't see it as evidence by itself.

You're talking about a time when nobody has ever seen flying objects. Think about it. They didn't have TV or anything like that. Nobody just sits there bored and says this is what a flying machine will look like in the future and draw it 1000's of years before. Come on, let's be real here.

So what flying machines had Da Vinci already seen when he sketched his plans around 1485? Unless I'm misunderstanding your point; it seems like you are arguing against people having the imagination to visualize this.

I get the feeling that some people believe that just because people back then didn't fully understand their environment, that they were somehow less intelligent or less creative. they weren't simple-brained folks. they just came earlier than we did.

badbrains

Yes, and they have visited Earth

Ya metal flying objects 1000's of years ago. Got it. I'm wrong and you guys are right as usual. No problem. Funny, u guys are arguing against aliens and yet you guys have said you believe in them. Odd

rgambs

Yes

Does this "evidence" mean that the aliens were humanoid with Earth animal heads? That's what the Egyptians drew on their walls, and since they couldn't have imagined it on their own, the aliens who build the pyramids must have been jackal and bird-headed humans.

HughFreakingDillon

Yes

badbrains said:

Ya metal flying objects 1000's of years ago. Got it. I'm wrong and you guys are right as usual. No problem. Funny, u guys are arguing against aliens and yet you guys have said you believe in them. Odd

so you are right and we are wrong as usual?

not odd at all. yes, I believe in alien life. But I have stated time and again (and it states explicitly on each post) that I don't think they've been here.

and you don't find it odd that flying saucers were just milling about 2000 years ago with nary a care in the world, especially during some of the biggest historical moments in christian history?

it's interesting to me the parallels this draws. God was talking to people all over the place that long ago. apparently, aliens were hanging around during the same time period. coincidence? sounds like a whole lotta magic mushrooms being eaten.

PJ_Soul

Yes, and they have visited Earth

badbrains said:

Ya metal flying objects 1000's of years ago. Got it. I'm wrong and you guys are right as usual. No problem. Funny, u guys are arguing against aliens and yet you guys have said you believe in them. Odd

I'm not arguing against aliens. I'm arguing against the theory that people couldn't dream up flying objects 1000 years ago. I agree with Hugh here - you seem to be underestimating the mental abilities and imagination of people back then. Think about all the things we have dreamed up long before it existed in more modern times. It's the only reason most things humans develop exist. Generally, first comes the imagination, and then comes the attempt to make it a reality. Also think about all the totally fantastical things people dream up all the time. It was no different for people 2000 years ago. In fact, without TV, media, etc, people back then probably had much richer imaginations than we do now, just as a form of entertainment.

I have no idea of any of those drawings or stories are connected to aliens. I admit it's one possibility.... but i have no reason to assume it just because the drawings and stories exist. Could be the case! Or not.

badbrains

Yes, and they have visited Earth

HughFreakingDillon said:

badbrains said:

Ya metal flying objects 1000's of years ago. Got it. I'm wrong and you guys are right as usual. No problem. Funny, u guys are arguing against aliens and yet you guys have said you believe in them. Odd

so you are right and we are wrong as usual?

not odd at all. yes, I believe in alien life. But I have stated time and again (and it states explicitly on each post) that I don't think they've been here.

and you don't find it odd that flying saucers were just milling about 2000 years ago with nary a care in the world, especially during some of the biggest historical moments in christian history?

it's interesting to me the parallels this draws. God was talking to people all over the place that long ago. apparently, aliens were hanging around during the same time period. coincidence? sounds like a whole lotta magic mushrooms being eaten.

Ah, how many times has the earth been "reset" with disasters. Species ending disasters. Look, you guys can believe in whatever the fuck u guys want, just as I and everyone else will. How about this hugh, we're ALL wrong. Only living things are found on earth and no matter what type of "evidence" people show us, they're wrong.

Edit-reason I asked about the earth being reset is for we don't truly know how advanced and civilized our earth could've been. We could've been hanging with aliens in the past. And with a population ending disaster, we'd never know it. Hope it makes sense