2 cops shot in Brooklyn
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You are right, he probably has to grasp of the community. His Dad was not only the Police, but he is currently a working coppers NYC. Sounds like No grasp at all of the community...but CNBC and CNN do... That cool aide must taste real nice. Yikes
Never implied that but the first paragraph pretty clearly states that he believes historically the nypd have been seen as heroes, perhaps since 9/11 or so yes for the most part, but that is pretty clearly not the case since the great migration.0 -
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Too bad he shot himself? Because now the police can't get street revenge and blow this guys head off? Alright.
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Too bad he shot himself, it would've been amazing to see him captured alive, and gone to trial like what is suppose to happen in the USA.
sounds like he was kind enough to save the tax payers a lot of money, I wonder what that guy was thinking before he shot himself ? was he ashamed of what he had done ? did he feel the pain and remorse of his actions ? did he just not want to spend the rest of his life in a prison cell ? or....was the last thing that went thru his mind a bullet ? does it really matter at this point ? case closed !
Godfather.
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meanwhile, the woman this guy shot is still critical but stable. Just in case any wondered._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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meanwhile, the woman this guy shot is still critical but stable. Just in case any wondered.
I guess she's not newsworthy enough. Our culture thrives on blood, violence, drama, histrionics and shock. Might I add, sort of like AMT sometimes?
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not to mention she is a female person of color. typically not the kind of victim that makes the news.
i just wanted to add that i've been unfriended by nearly every cop and cop-supporter on social media after expressing my 'middle ground' opinion. there is a serious attitude, which you've seen expressed here, that if you do not support the nypd and its officers actions 100% you are an enemy of the state. I'm fairly certain that is the definition of extremism, but what do I know, i'm just an idiot liberal.NYC 06/24/08-Auckland 11/27/09-Chch 11/29/09-Newark 05/18/10-Atlanta 09/22/12-Chicago 07/19/13-Brooklyn 10/18/13 & 10/19/13-Hartford 10/25/13-Baltimore 10/27/13-Auckland 1/17/14-GC 1/19/14-Melbourne 1/24/14-Sydney 1/26/14-Amsterdam 6/16/14 & 6/17/14-Milan 6/20/14-Berlin 6/26/14-Leeds 7/8/14-Milton Keynes 7/11/14-St. Louis 10/3/14-NYC 9/26/15
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not to mention she is a female person of color. typically not the kind of victim that makes the news.
i just wanted to add that i've been unfriended by nearly every cop and cop-supporter on social media after expressing my 'middle ground' opinion. there is a serious attitude, which you've seen expressed here, that if you do not support the nypd and its officers actions 100% you are an enemy of the state. I'm fairly certain that is the definition of extremism, but what do I know, i'm just an idiot liberal.
May I add you kind of get that reaction from people that get it when Police get assassinated. I Don't know or care what your" middle ground" opinion is, but if you have it in you to share it I am sure there will be plenty of people on here that will make you feel all warm a fuzzy again.
May I also suggest you might have wanted to keep your "middle ground" opinion to yourself from your Cop friends for at least a few days after the Families of the fallen officers have put their hero's in the ground. That definition is called class….
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So I'm lacking class for saying that it's fucked up when anyone's life is cut short at the hand of another human being, and that all human lives have value, hence #alllivesmatter, but it's totally cool for an officer to declare it as an act of war and point out the actions of a sick fuck who travelled up here as evidence that all the protestors are violent thugs who are subhuman cuz they all want police dead?
there no accurate sweeping generalizations. there are a bunch of fucked up cops and bunch of fucked up civilians. just like there are an overwhelming majority of great cops and great civilians who are wonderful people - you know, cuz we're ALL people. There's no simple answer here, and there is no answer at all in the form of broad generalization. There should be no blind support of either civilians who are allegedly assaulted, nor should there be blind support for officers who've allegedly done the assaulting, and neither of them should have broad generalizations of their character made because "this guy is a cop so he's automatically right for doing his job/wrong cuz he's racist" nor "this guy was selling looseys so he's automatically right for minding his own business/wrong for doing something illegal" Nothing is black and white like that (no pun intended)NYC 06/24/08-Auckland 11/27/09-Chch 11/29/09-Newark 05/18/10-Atlanta 09/22/12-Chicago 07/19/13-Brooklyn 10/18/13 & 10/19/13-Hartford 10/25/13-Baltimore 10/27/13-Auckland 1/17/14-GC 1/19/14-Melbourne 1/24/14-Sydney 1/26/14-Amsterdam 6/16/14 & 6/17/14-Milan 6/20/14-Berlin 6/26/14-Leeds 7/8/14-Milton Keynes 7/11/14-St. Louis 10/3/14-NYC 9/26/15
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So I'm lacking class for saying that it's fucked up when anyone's life is cut short at the hand of another human being, and that all human lives have value, hence #alllivesmatter, but it's totally cool for an officer to declare it as an act of war and point out the actions of a sick fuck who travelled up here as evidence that all the protestors are violent thugs who are subhuman cuz they all want police dead?
there no accurate sweeping generalizations. there are a bunch of fucked up cops and bunch of fucked up civilians. just like there are an overwhelming majority of great cops and great civilians who are wonderful people - you know, cuz we're ALL people. There's no simple answer here, and there is no answer at all in the form of broad generalization. There should be no blind support of either civilians who are allegedly assaulted, nor should there be blind support for officers who've allegedly done the assaulting, and neither of them should have broad generalizations of their character made because "this guy is a cop so he's automatically right for doing his job/wrong cuz he's racist" nor "this guy was selling looseys so he's automatically right for minding his own business/wrong for doing something illegal" Nothing is black and white like that (no pun intended)
These are great points (highlighted), Ident42. All or nothing, black and white, us against them is only useful if we are talking about an issue in a generalized sense. If were talking about racism or abuse or environmental degradation or genocide, it's pretty easy to take one side or another. It makes sense to say say racism is fucked, but it doesn't make sense to say everybody from Smith Flat Kentucky is a racist. If were talking about individuals- cops or citizens or finger picking guitar players- or a specific incident, it's more useful to look at that individual person or incident. Generalization leads to things like nationalism, jingoism, ethnocentricity, and other forms of narrow thinking.
This all reminds me of how I originally started the "good cops" thread to try to balance out the other "all cops are bad" type threads but the sense I get there now is too much generalizing. It became a pro-cop thread. That wasn't the point because not all cops are good just as not all cops are bad. So we can ditch my thread now as far as I'm concerned because the point went astray there.
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So I'm lacking class for saying that it's fucked up when anyone's life is cut short at the hand of another human being, and that all human lives have value, hence #alllivesmatter, but it's totally cool for an officer to declare it as an act of war and point out the actions of a sick fuck who travelled up here as evidence that all the protestors are violent thugs who are subhuman cuz they all want police dead?
there no accurate sweeping generalizations. there are a bunch of fucked up cops and bunch of fucked up civilians. just like there are an overwhelming majority of great cops and great civilians who are wonderful people - you know, cuz we're ALL people. There's no simple answer here, and there is no answer at all in the form of broad generalization. There should be no blind support of either civilians who are allegedly assaulted, nor should there be blind support for officers who've allegedly done the assaulting, and neither of them should have broad generalizations of their character made because "this guy is a cop so he's automatically right for doing his job/wrong cuz he's racist" nor "this guy was selling looseys so he's automatically right for minding his own business/wrong for doing something illegal" Nothing is black and white like that (no pun intended)
You might not have been lacking class, but your timing might have been better."My brain's a good brain!"0 -
So I'm lacking class for saying that it's fucked up when anyone's life is cut short at the hand of another human being, and that all human lives have value, hence #alllivesmatter, but it's totally cool for an officer to declare it as an act of war and point out the actions of a sick fuck who travelled up here as evidence that all the protestors are violent thugs who are subhuman cuz they all want police dead?
there no accurate sweeping generalizations. there are a bunch of fucked up cops and bunch of fucked up civilians. just like there are an overwhelming majority of great cops and great civilians who are wonderful people - you know, cuz we're ALL people. There's no simple answer here, and there is no answer at all in the form of broad generalization. There should be no blind support of either civilians who are allegedly assaulted, nor should there be blind support for officers who've allegedly done the assaulting, and neither of them should have broad generalizations of their character made because "this guy is a cop so he's automatically right for doing his job/wrong cuz he's racist" nor "this guy was selling looseys so he's automatically right for minding his own business/wrong for doing something illegal" Nothing is black and white like that (no pun intended)
Great post
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Hundreds get murdered every week. I'm sure in Baltimore this woman is more of the story, but nationally the story is the two cops and how it ties into all the recent protests and police shootings. Unfortunately most towns have their own domestic abuse situations to deal with that don't make national news.
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lets down play this .....after all it was race motivated killing and racist piece of shit blew his own brains out...maybe the familys of the victims can piss on his grave.
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Godfather. wrote: »lets down play this .....after all it was race motivated killing and racist piece of shit blew his own brains out...maybe the familys of the victims can piss on his grave.
Godfather.
so he shot his black girlfriend in the stomach because he was racist?_____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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Godfather. wrote: »lets down play this .....after all it was race motivated killing and racist piece of shit blew his own brains out...maybe the familys of the victims can piss on his grave.
Godfather.
so he shot his black girlfriend in the stomach because he was racist?
from what I hear the cop killing was revenge for the chocking death and for the Fergesen death...sounds a little racist to me.
Godfather.
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Godfather. wrote: »Godfather. wrote: »lets down play this .....after all it was race motivated killing and racist piece of shit blew his own brains out...maybe the familys of the victims can piss on his grave.
Godfather.
so he shot his black girlfriend in the stomach because he was racist?
from what I hear the cop killing was revenge for the chocking death and for the Fergesen death...sounds a little racist to me.
Godfather.
What I KNOW is this guy accidentally or purposefully shot his GF in the stomach that morning. Believing she was dying or dead then went to NY. I think its reasonable to assume he then came up with this fucked up plan. His family says he may have had mental health issues. And had tried to hang himself last year.
While I believe his actions to be inexcusable and horrific , we cant lose sight of the fact this was a human being that quite probably needed help. In NO way does this belief excuse his behavior but I do wonder what might have been done for him had he been receptive to help.
Lastly, ANY organization unwilling to consider that their actions have been wrong or fail to seek accountability for those wrong actions can go get fucked. Up to and including the federal government. No Police officer is FORCED to do that job. Lacking accountability, they are no better than the criminals the claim to want to protect the public at large from._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
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Come on Godfather, you know better than that. It's never considered racism for the media's overall Agenda when the shoe is on the other foot. Plus they were just lowly Policeman, they are supposed to take bullets first before they can fight back according to many "community activist". Poor guys didn't even have a chance to get to their pistols before being assassinated. You should see the new Proposed "rules of engagement" for police officers the community activists in Chicago have layed out for our "city Leaders" to review for the "Protection of BLack and Brown lives".... Scarey times ahead in my urban-life city.0
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Come on Godfather, you know better than that. It's never considered racism for the media's overall Agenda when the shoe is on the other foot. Plus they were just lowly Policeman, they are supposed to take bullets first before they can fight back according to many "community activist". Poor guys didn't even have a chance to get to their pistols before being assassinated. You should see the new Proposed "rules of engagement" for police officers the community activists in Chicago have layed out for our "city Leaders" to review for the "Protection of BLack and Brown lives".... Scarey times ahead in my urban-life city.
so quit and get a job at another dept._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140
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