Hands up dont shoot!

Last-12-Exit

JC29856 said:

BTW... I manage, promote and account for local bands in the tri state area. PA NJ DE

Sounds like a fun gig

callen

Just left home center. Couple cops lights blazing flying down road. Minute later ambulance. Leaving parking lot and down the road a car turned in front of motorcycle. Bad scene.

And who rush to scene risking their safety and then come up to accident and do what they can to help rider? Police officers.

Police are the scapegoat for our social flaws. Yeah they aren't perfect but fk the emotions adrenaline they deal with daily.

I've been roughed up by cops and met some asses but most are professional cool humans.

rr165892

callen said:

Just left home center. Couple cops lights blazing flying down road. Minute later ambulance. Leaving parking lot and down the road a car turned in front of motorcycle. Bad scene.

And who rush to scene risking their safety and then come up to accident and do what they can to help rider? Police officers.

Police are the scapegoat for our social flaws. Yeah they aren't perfect but fk the emotions adrenaline they deal with daily.

I've been roughed up by cops and met some asses but most are professional cool humans.

True,true Callen

rr165892

JC29856 said:

BTW... I manage, promote and account for local bands in the tri state area. PA NJ DE

So start pimping JC.What you got for us.I think some of us have quality taste in music.Give me something new and fresh to sink my earbuds into.

I will give you a couple to check out as well.Look at these two bands.

Craving Strange-from Long Island,NY(Hard rock kinda like Foo fighters in Genre)

The Dead Deads-Nashville,Tn(All girls,90s grunge sound think Melvins meets Veruca Salt)

muskydan

JC29856 said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

(takes bait like a largemouth) I keep reading at nausium about getting the police society wants, what police does society want? Describe it....

Only need one word to describe it...
...De-policing.

Who you Gonna call??? Ghostbusters ...

You wanted the best, you got the best.

rgambs

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

(takes bait like a largemouth) I keep reading at nausium about getting the police society wants, what police does society want? Describe it....

Only need one word to describe it...
...De-policing.

Who you Gonna call??? Ghostbusters ...

You wanted the best, you got the best.

I think that's a huge mischaracterization, an immature reaction to a little criticism. "You don't like the way I do it, FINE I won't do it all all." *Crosses arms and stomps away*

I think "liberal society" would just like to see the police continue to respond to emergency situations and discontinue creating emergency situations.

muskydan

fife said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

how is what they did a slap to all law enforcement? also, you keep saying that people will get the police that they demand, do you care to explain what you mean by that?

Well they are giving support to 2 criminals that were resisting arrest.
The worst thing that can happen for the hood would be De-policing.

rgambs said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

(takes bait like a largemouth) I keep reading at nausium about getting the police society wants, what police does society want? Describe it....

Only need one word to describe it...
...De-policing.

Who you Gonna call??? Ghostbusters ...

You wanted the best, you got the best.

I think that's a huge mischaracterization, an immature reaction to a little criticism. "You don't like the way I do it, FINE I won't do it all all." *Crosses arms and stomps away*

I think "liberal society" would just like to see the police continue to respond to emergency situations and discontinue creating emergency situations.

I think someone aught to stick to what you know and perhaps go milk a cow or make some butter out der in Amish country cause u have no idea what you are talking about. I just was answering dudes question on what kind of police society is going 2 be getting which btw I dont agree w/, but it's what society is demanding. I make a joke out of everything cause this whole thing is a joke.

fife

Can you explain to me what De-Policing is in your view point?

secondly, you never answered my question about what do you mean when you say that the people will get the police that they demand. Give me example of what you believe the people want in their police force?

rgambs

muskydan said:

fife said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

how is what they did a slap to all law enforcement? also, you keep saying that people will get the police that they demand, do you care to explain what you mean by that?

Well they are giving support to 2 criminals that were resisting arrest.
The worst thing that can happen for the hood would be De-policing.

rgambs said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

(takes bait like a largemouth) I keep reading at nausium about getting the police society wants, what police does society want? Describe it....

Only need one word to describe it...
...De-policing.

Who you Gonna call??? Ghostbusters ...

You wanted the best, you got the best.

I think that's a huge mischaracterization, an immature reaction to a little criticism. "You don't like the way I do it, FINE I won't do it all all." *Crosses arms and stomps away*

I think "liberal society" would just like to see the police continue to respond to emergency situations and discontinue creating emergency situations.

I think someone aught to stick to what you know and perhaps go milk a cow or make some butter out der in Amish country cause u have no idea what you are talking about. I just was answering dudes question on what kind of police society is going 2 be getting which btw I dont agree w/, but it's what society is demanding. I make a joke out of everything cause this whole thing is a joke.

I've lived elsewhere, Columbus, Tucson, and Denver. Are you suggesting Chicago is so typical it makes you a general authority? 'Cuz I've heard you have quite an atypical issue going in your city.
As crazy as it may seem to you, not everyone believes that an officer should have authority to forcibly assault people for verbal noncompliance on issues without violence. Resisting arrest means nothing if it is a case of officers swingin dick like the Garner case, and to a small extent, the Brown case.

Your beliefs are entirely contradictory! You criticize and DISRESPECT the popularly elected leader of the country for over reaching his authority and then you grant authority of bodily force in response to disrespect to hundreds of thousands of appointed officers? And that makes sense how?

benjs

muskydan said:

fife said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

how is what they did a slap to all law enforcement? also, you keep saying that people will get the police that they demand, do you care to explain what you mean by that?

Well they are giving support to 2 criminals that were resisting arrest.
The worst thing that can happen for the hood would be De-policing.

rgambs said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

(takes bait like a largemouth) I keep reading at nausium about getting the police society wants, what police does society want? Describe it....

Only need one word to describe it...
...De-policing.

Who you Gonna call??? Ghostbusters ...

You wanted the best, you got the best.

I think that's a huge mischaracterization, an immature reaction to a little criticism. "You don't like the way I do it, FINE I won't do it all all." *Crosses arms and stomps away*

I think "liberal society" would just like to see the police continue to respond to emergency situations and discontinue creating emergency situations.

I think someone aught to stick to what you know and perhaps go milk a cow or make some butter out der in Amish country cause u have no idea what you are talking about. I just was answering dudes question on what kind of police society is going 2 be getting which btw I dont agree w/, but it's what society is demanding. I make a joke out of everything cause this whole thing is a joke.

Funny, I read this a bit differently. I read this as you making a joke out of everything because you have no intention of listening or responding to anyone whose opinion differs in the slightest from your own.

For the record, why you had to resort to a meaningless ad hominem attack on rgambs is beyond me. As a member of the public which is supposedly defended by people in your position, he inherently has the right to criticize. And when you enter a job where you serve the public I'm guessing you're made well aware of this: deflecting instead of providing a semblance of a reasonable answer is going to do you no good.

Or maybe you ought to just stick to your job and kill a black man or two because he made fun of your choice of donuts and coffee - oops, I mean, verbally abused a police officer (since we're playing the 'ad hominem attacks based on job-centric stereotypes' game). I guess logic-driven debate isn't in your job description.

I think you should take a step back and at least explore the mere possibility that an introduction of proper checks and balances might not lead to an anarchistic and chaotic existence within the USA before assuming that the rest of us want that existence.

muskydan

benjs said:

muskydan said:

fife said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

how is what they did a slap to all law enforcement? also, you keep saying that people will get the police that they demand, do you care to explain what you mean by that?

Well they are giving support to 2 criminals that were resisting arrest.
The worst thing that can happen for the hood would be De-policing.

rgambs said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

(takes bait like a largemouth) I keep reading at nausium about getting the police society wants, what police does society want? Describe it....

Only need one word to describe it...
...De-policing.

Who you Gonna call??? Ghostbusters ...

You wanted the best, you got the best.

I think that's a huge mischaracterization, an immature reaction to a little criticism. "You don't like the way I do it, FINE I won't do it all all." *Crosses arms and stomps away*

I think "liberal society" would just like to see the police continue to respond to emergency situations and discontinue creating emergency situations.

I think someone aught to stick to what you know and perhaps go milk a cow or make some butter out der in Amish country cause u have no idea what you are talking about. I just was answering dudes question on what kind of police society is going 2 be getting which btw I dont agree w/, but it's what society is demanding. I make a joke out of everything cause this whole thing is a joke.

Funny, I read this a bit differently. I read this as you making a joke out of everything because you have no intention of listening or responding to anyone whose opinion differs in the slightest from your own.

For the record, why you had to resort to a meaningless ad hominem attack on rgambs is beyond me. As a member of the public which is supposedly defended by people in your position, he inherently has the right to criticize. And when you enter a job where you serve the public I'm guessing you're made well aware of this: deflecting instead of providing a semblance of a reasonable answer is going to do you no good.

Or maybe you ought to just stick to your job and kill a black man or two because he made fun of your choice of donuts and coffee - oops, I mean, verbally abused a police officer (since we're playing the 'ad hominem attacks based on job-centric stereotypes' game). I guess logic-driven debate isn't in your job description.

I think you should take a step back and at least explore the mere possibility that an introduction of proper checks and balances might not lead to an anarchistic and chaotic existence within the USA before assuming that the rest of us want that existence.

OMG!!!! Luved this one. Thanks for the reminder that it's time 2 clean my gun.

muskydan

rgambs said:

muskydan said:

fife said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

how is what they did a slap to all law enforcement? also, you keep saying that people will get the police that they demand, do you care to explain what you mean by that?

Well they are giving support to 2 criminals that were resisting arrest.
The worst thing that can happen for the hood would be De-policing.

rgambs said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

(takes bait like a largemouth) I keep reading at nausium about getting the police society wants, what police does society want? Describe it....

Only need one word to describe it...
...De-policing.

Who you Gonna call??? Ghostbusters ...

You wanted the best, you got the best.

I think that's a huge mischaracterization, an immature reaction to a little criticism. "You don't like the way I do it, FINE I won't do it all all." *Crosses arms and stomps away*

I think "liberal society" would just like to see the police continue to respond to emergency situations and discontinue creating emergency situations.

I think someone aught to stick to what you know and perhaps go milk a cow or make some butter out der in Amish country cause u have no idea what you are talking about. I just was answering dudes question on what kind of police society is going 2 be getting which btw I dont agree w/, but it's what society is demanding. I make a joke out of everything cause this whole thing is a joke.

I've lived elsewhere, Columbus, Tucson, and Denver. Are you suggesting Chicago is so typical it makes you a general authority? 'Cuz I've heard you have quite an atypical issue going in your city.
As crazy as it may seem to you, not everyone believes that an officer should have authority to forcibly assault people for verbal noncompliance on issues without violence. Resisting arrest means nothing if it is a case of officers swingin dick like the Garner case, and to a small extent, the Brown case.

Your beliefs are entirely contradictory! You criticize and DISRESPECT the popularly elected leader of the country for over reaching his authority and then you grant authority of bodily force in response to disrespect to hundreds of thousands of appointed officers? And that makes sense how?

Believe me, being the Police in Shitcago makes me the authority on Nothing. Just like any well oiled liberal democracy the bad guys and non tax paying POS of society have a lot more of a voice and rights than the Police here...VOTES. This forum has been great for me cause In uniform I can't say squat about what I witness w/ my own eyes every single dAy.
I don't see your emperor O comparison, but hey I gots a pee brain and very very immature.

fife

muskydan said:

rgambs said:

muskydan said:

fife said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

how is what they did a slap to all law enforcement? also, you keep saying that people will get the police that they demand, do you care to explain what you mean by that?

Well they are giving support to 2 criminals that were resisting arrest.
The worst thing that can happen for the hood would be De-policing.

rgambs said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

muskydan said:

JC29856 said:

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

(takes bait like a largemouth) I keep reading at nausium about getting the police society wants, what police does society want? Describe it....

Only need one word to describe it...
...De-policing.

Who you Gonna call??? Ghostbusters ...

You wanted the best, you got the best.

I think that's a huge mischaracterization, an immature reaction to a little criticism. "You don't like the way I do it, FINE I won't do it all all." *Crosses arms and stomps away*

I think "liberal society" would just like to see the police continue to respond to emergency situations and discontinue creating emergency situations.

I think someone aught to stick to what you know and perhaps go milk a cow or make some butter out der in Amish country cause u have no idea what you are talking about. I just was answering dudes question on what kind of police society is going 2 be getting which btw I dont agree w/, but it's what society is demanding. I make a joke out of everything cause this whole thing is a joke.

I've lived elsewhere, Columbus, Tucson, and Denver. Are you suggesting Chicago is so typical it makes you a general authority? 'Cuz I've heard you have quite an atypical issue going in your city.
As crazy as it may seem to you, not everyone believes that an officer should have authority to forcibly assault people for verbal noncompliance on issues without violence. Resisting arrest means nothing if it is a case of officers swingin dick like the Garner case, and to a small extent, the Brown case.

Your beliefs are entirely contradictory! You criticize and DISRESPECT the popularly elected leader of the country for over reaching his authority and then you grant authority of bodily force in response to disrespect to hundreds of thousands of appointed officers? And that makes sense how?

Believe me, being the Police in Shitcago makes me the authority on Nothing. Just like any well oiled liberal democracy the bad guys and non tax paying POS of society have a lot more of a voice and rights than the Police here...VOTES. This forum has been great for me cause In uniform I can't say squat about what I witness w/ my own eyes every single dAy.
I don't see your emperor O comparison, but hey I gots a pee brain and very very immature.

this is the biggest load of bs i have read here. actually that's not true, i have no idea what you are actually trying to say but I will say this; if you are truly a cop i think you should be fired or quit cause its apparent to everyone here that you are not worth being a cop.

again i asked you some questions above and will like you to actually answer those question

Last-12-Exit

Why should musky be fired for his political views? The dude could be the best coo Chicago has ever seen. He could also be the worst. But for Christ sake, why should he be fired for not liking Obama? Or being sickened to see people take advantage of handouts?

benjs

Last-12-Exit said:

Why should musky be fired for his political views? The dude could be the best coo Chicago has ever seen. He could also be the worst. But for Christ sake, why should he be fired for not liking Obama? Or being sickened to see people take advantage of handouts?

I'm with you on this. Just because officers can act heavy-handedly, doesn't mean they should be reduced to just bending over to take the abuse. musky happens to have done a horrendous job of defending police brutality in my opinion, but as far as we know, he certainly has the right to serve.

Of course, his outright refusal to discuss the addition of checks and balances (like subjecting police officers to the legal system the way every other American is or the introduction of body cameras providing impartial evidence) doesn't suggest much faith in his own belief that he has the right to serve.

I welcome checks and balances in regards to audits for my job, because they will provide metrics that justify my salary and position. The people who fight them, typically, are those who know they are failing at their jobs in some way, and fear the accountability.

rr165892

Ben,In fairness Musky has stated several times he was all for body cameras.And I agree with Last-12.Our forum here is made for multiple points of view.I welcome this, as it only makes all of us smarter and keeps the conversation fresh.Dans got a tough beat and has seen some bad shit.That kind of violence and despair,death of kids,etc over time wears one ones soul.So let's keep that in mind before some of you pounce.
Everybody knows Muskys problem is not his job or view on life,it's his damn horrendous taste in College teams.Bama,Really dude? I thought you were better then that.sheesh.

muskydan

rr165892 said:

Ben,In fairness Musky has stated several times he was all for body cameras.And I agree with Last-12.Our forum here is made for multiple points of view.I welcome this, as it only makes all of us smarter and keeps the conversation fresh.Dans got a tough beat and has seen some bad shit.That kind of violence and despair,death of kids,etc over time wears one ones soul.So let's keep that in mind before some of you pounce.
Everybody knows Muskys problem is not his job or view on life,it's his damn horrendous taste in College teams.Bama,Really dude? I thought you were better then that.sheesh.

Well i dated a nice southern girl from Tuscaloosa AL for awhile and was able to attend a few Bama games over the years. Being a life long Cubs and Bears fan I have not had much to feel good about in my sports world, thank God for the Blackhawks. My college suxs at sports so its nice to support a winner since I am so used to supporting losers all the time. However I do have a chubby for What the Cubs have been up to lately…..expecting blue balls but I know all about that..lol
Who is your team rr?? and thanks for your backup…I just can't get myself to answer some people on here cause no matter what I say I am a racist PIG……I deal with that attitude everyday and can ignore it here no sweat, but not on the street cause that can get your ass killed…..anyhow,I maybe a realistic PIG, but definitely not a racist PIG….But as we know, if you put down Barry and are white, well ya know…Time for a few beers and Bear down..

hedonist

benjs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Why should musky be fired for his political views? The dude could be the best coo Chicago has ever seen. He could also be the worst. But for Christ sake, why should he be fired for not liking Obama? Or being sickened to see people take advantage of handouts?

I'm with you on this. Just because officers can act heavy-handedly, doesn't mean they should be reduced to just bending over to take the abuse. musky happens to have done a horrendous job of defending police brutality in my opinion, but as far as we know, he certainly has the right to serve.

Of course, his outright refusal to discuss the addition of checks and balances (like subjecting police officers to the legal system the way every other American is or the introduction of body cameras providing impartial evidence) doesn't suggest much faith in his own belief that he has the right to serve.

I welcome checks and balances in regards to audits for my job, because they will provide metrics that justify my salary and position. The people who fight them, typically, are those who know they are failing at their jobs in some way, and fear the accountability.

Thanks (per usual) for the level-headedness, benjs.

And for what it's worth, I don't think muskydan is a pig...but dude, if you can take some time off - a breather here and there - I think it'd do some good. Wishing you a nice unwinding break, and some peace over the coming holidays.

benjs

muskydan - I missed the part where someone called you a pig, but my sincere apologies you had to take that. I personally owe you an apology as well for saying you were against checks and balances - as rr rightly stated, you were for body cameras, which is great to hear. Still think your attitude could use an adjustment, but I'm sure mine can too. Echoing what hedonist said (and extending to all the fine folks around here), I hope you all get to spend some well-earned quality time with your friends and families over the next coming weeks.

rr165892

hedonist said:

benjs said:

Last-12-Exit said:

Why should musky be fired for his political views? The dude could be the best coo Chicago has ever seen. He could also be the worst. But for Christ sake, why should he be fired for not liking Obama? Or being sickened to see people take advantage of handouts?

I'm with you on this. Just because officers can act heavy-handedly, doesn't mean they should be reduced to just bending over to take the abuse. musky happens to have done a horrendous job of defending police brutality in my opinion, but as far as we know, he certainly has the right to serve.

Of course, his outright refusal to discuss the addition of checks and balances (like subjecting police officers to the legal system the way every other American is or the introduction of body cameras providing impartial evidence) doesn't suggest much faith in his own belief that he has the right to serve.

I welcome checks and balances in regards to audits for my job, because they will provide metrics that justify my salary and position. The people who fight them, typically, are those who know they are failing at their jobs in some way, and fear the accountability.

Thanks (per usual) for the level-headedness, benjs.

And for what it's worth, I don't think muskydan is a pig...but dude, if you can take some time off - a breather here and there - I think it'd do some good. Wishing you a nice unwinding break, and some peace over the coming holidays.

Hedo is wise.Like a Jewish-Persian Yoda!!
We all could use a breather ,a break and some peace.