Hands up dont shoot!
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St. Louis is more racially segregated than many of us ever truly understood. Even the police officers in the city have separate organizations advocating on behalf of white and black interests.
When Jeff Roorda and the predominantly white St. Louis Police Officers Association came out with a statement to blast the pre-game "Hands Up, Don't Shoot" gesture done by five players from the St. Louis Rams and declared that they should be fined, suspended, and offer an apology, it was wrongly assumed by many that Roorda spoke for all of the police in St. Louis. He did not.
The black police officer's association in St. Louis issued a bold statement declaring their complete support for the players. Gloria McCollum, general counsel for their association, just issued the following statement, which you can read below the fold, on their behalf.
THE ETHICAL SOCIETY OF POLICE, is the primary voice of African
American Police Officers in St. Louis City, and as such it COMPLETELY SUPPORTS THE ACTIONS OF THE ST. LOUIS RAMS FOOTBALL PLAYERS IN WHICH THEY SHOWED SUPPORT FOR THE FAMILY OF MICHAEL BROWN BY ENTERING THE STADIUM WITH THEIR HANDS UP.
We think that their actions were commendable and that they should not be ridiculed, disciplined or punished for taking a stand on this very important issue which is of great concern around the world and especially in the community where these players work.
THE STATEMENTS OF THE ST. LOUIS POLICE OFFICERS
ASSOCIATION DO NOT REFLECT THE OPINIONS OF THE MAJORITY OF AFRICAN AMERICAN POLICE OFFICERS IN THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE THERE ARE NO AFRICAN AMERICAN OFFICERS ON THEIR GOVERNING BOARD AND THEY HAVE A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF AFRICAN AMERICAN MEMBERS.
The Ethical Society of Police has been the primary bridge between [the] African American community and the police department for many years. The Ethical Society will use its best efforts to continue to work with the community leaders and the Department of Justice to address issues that affect our community such as racial profiling, police brutality and disparities in hiring and disciplining practices of African American Officers.
None of the white officers involved were fired or even suspended for incident.
Certainly, when you now view the recent statement made by the black officers association in St. Louis regarding how Jeff Roorda and the white police officers association doesn't speak for them regarding the protest by the Rams or issues of police brutality in general, it all makes so much more sense when you understand the history of strife and racism in their department.
Cameras aren't the answer...even when a cop is recorded saying I'm going to shot this guy in the dick then is filmed shooting the guy dead in the dick head chest breast and neck.
Some data on cop kills
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/i-hate-nggers-that-is-all-5-ohio-deputies-probed-for-years-of-racist-text-messages/
Trying to provoke cop...
http://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=ZJ2WaTEkG0g
http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-unaccountable-death-of-john-geer/2014/09/05/29d36d96-339a-11e4-a723-fa3895a25d02_story.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/exclusive-texted-union-rep-akai-gurley-lay-dying-article-1.2034219
Officers training. The training kicked in.
Similar to Wilson making 2 cell phone calls (1 to a police chief in a neighboring town and another undetermined which we be revealed in the civil lawsuit) after he shot Brown dead, Liang the 28 month rookie was texting his union rep as his victim Gurley lay dying. Granted this is from the NYDN but still worth mentioning.
As the criminal justice system expanded to include almost seven million individuals under correctional control through supervision or incarceration, so did its costs.
For example, in Ferguson, Missouri, the city relied on rising municipal court fines to make up 20 percent of its $12 million operating budget in fiscal year 2013. These fees and fines impose an additional penalty on individuals above and beyond their actual sentences.
Even worse, it is at cross-purposes with the goal of release: to reintegrate the individual as a productive member of society. This is an extremely difficult goal to accomplish when one is already set back by a mountain of debt.
The collection of criminal justice debt can be aggressive and further prevent successful integration. Some individuals face the withholding of income from paychecks. Others face liens on their homes. Placing barriers to obtaining a driver’s license is a common practice among the states, even though it frequently impedes an individual’s ability to secure employment.
Ironically, these tactics are costly to the state. Probation officers, judges and court personnel must spend time serving as debt collectors. The privatization of debt collection is increasingly common, but the success of these companies is difficult to assess. By 2011, uncollected criminal justice debt in the United States totaled $50 billion. Very little of this debt will be collected. Florida, for example, expects to recover just 9 percent of the fees and fines imposed in felony cases. In Washington State, the county clerks collect, on average, less than 5 percent of the total fees and fines imposed in a particular case.
In the end, criminal justice debt burdens more than just the individual caught up in the criminal justice system. It burdens the state through collection. It burdens the family of the individual who cannot cover the debt payments necessary to stay out of jail, so the family tries to pay it for him. It burdens the communities where these individuals return because criminal justice debt perpetuates poverty and prevents the accrual of resources necessary for socioeconomic equality. Moreover, criminal justice debt hinders re-entry, often leading to extended periods of court-supervision and incarceration for individuals unable to pay. Such realities burden society at large by threatening public safety and increasing incarceration in already overburdened jail systems. These realities make clear that criminal justice debt reflects bad policy.
In the Garner case, the cellphone video provided a far superior view of what happened than a body camera would have, and still police suffered no criminal consequences. It’s not the first time this has happened. In September, an Ohio grand jury failed to indict the police officers who killed John Crawford in a Wal-Mart, where he had picked up an air rifle from the shelf. And earlier this year, a man in Oklahoma stopped breathing in a movie theater parking lot after several police officers forced him to the ground when he refused to hand over his ID. His wife filmed the fatal incident on her cellphone, but the district attorney said the officers’ actions were justified. Officers are rarely charged in these kinds of incidents, whether there’s video evidence or not. During the seven years ending in 2011, just 41 police officers were charged with murder or manslaughter after shootings, according to FBI statistics compiled by The Wall Street Journal. Meanwhile, more than 2,700 homicides by law enforcement were deemed justified. Few entities are given so much authority with so little accountability.
It’s lax laws that prevent us from holding police accountable, not a lack of evidence. But the presence of police body cameras will simply lull the country into believing that we can solve the problems of racial profiling and police violence without holding police accountable for their actions. In an environment where state excessive force laws make criminal conviction of police officers for murder almost impossible, a police officer literally has nothing to lose by killing unarmed black men. Even in civil suits, officers are never personally financially responsible for paying for damages — state and local governments cover it for them. For the officers involved, there is a miniscule chance of either serving time in jail or paying a dime in damages, regardless of whether or not the incident is recorded. This is the textbook definition of impunity.
President Obama isn’t alone in his misguided approach. Across the country, local police departments are considering the use of body cameras and perpetuating the view that this will end police brutality. But if this country wants to get serious about this problem, we should do what government always does when it wants to alter behavior on a systematic level — impose financial penalties. For example, the proposed End Racial Profiling Act would mandate policies that prohibit racial profiling by federal law enforcement and by state and local agencies that receive federal funding. That’s a start on the racial profiling side. Another proposal that has gained traction locally is the creation of mandatory personal liability insurance for police officers. Even if cities decide to pay the base premiums for police, the increased premiums for officers prone to violence and brutality would provide a measure of accountability. That’s a start on the police violence side. In the absence of accountability, financial or criminal, we can expect no changes in police behavior. The roots of the problem are too deep. For real change to happen, it has to cost them something.
http://thefreethoughtproject.com/lapd-shoots-man-site-protests-police-murder-24-hours/#GtHMXHfTyVEM3EFz.99
http://ktla.com/2014/12/05/armed-man-shot-by-officers-near-hollywood-and-highland-lapd/
Allegedly the guy had a knife, (in the video) he has a few bullets pumped in him and the cops stay there guns aimed at a lifeless body waiting for him to spring up Bruce Lee style for like 2 minutes, then my favorite part is the corpse handcuff.
Below is a rough transcript of what's intelligible from the tape:
Dispatch: “CPIC [Chicago police's spy 'fusion' center] on the air for a mobile”
Officer 1: “Go ahead”
Officer 2: “Yeah one of the girls, an organizer here, she’s been on her phone a lot. You guys picking up any information, uh, where they’re going, possibly?”
Officer 1: “Yeah we’ll keep an eye on it, we’ll let you know if we hear anything.”
Officer 2: “10-4. They’re compliant, and they’re, they’re doing ok now but she’s spending a lot of time on the phone.”
Officer 1: “10-4”
Operation Smashy smashy. What seems to be a concerted effort to leave small local businesses alone, smashers and looters targeted big businesses. Champagne and cheese were liberated from whole foods.
Body cameras arent the only aswer!
1029 police kills and counting....
If accurate it's pretty unbelievable that in 3 years the police have killed more people than were killed on 9/11
And if even commentary was included, do you expect people to read each and every one of the instances in your link? Have you?
I browsed the list and it was tough to tell by the link titles - though I'd imagine some would have cloudy circumstances around them.
Criminals gotta stop making the police kill them so much.
"Eh eh eh I want the knife....pleeeeeeeease"
Did lapd plant the knife?
http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2014/12/lapd-kill-street-performer/
"He didn't do anything wrong"
"You got the wrong guy"
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/no-charges-for-mall-cop-who-pepper-sprayed-black-man-being-harassed-by-half-naked-white-man/
Black guy in a stolen car killed with hands up according to witnesses. Criminal thug breaking the law shot dead.
Godfather.
In an interview with Telemundo's MEXICAN Jose Diaz-Balart,BLACK President Obama said threatened countries often act in ways that are wrong.....YADA YADA YADA
Godfather.
Newspapers do add to strife in order to sell more Pringles.
Agree.
"News" does add to strife in order to sell more Pringles.