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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    From the fbi statistics of the 49,851 officers that were assaulted only 14,556, were actually injured.

    Would Darren Wilson be classified as injured or uninjured?

    In any case what can we deduce from the assault charges to injury from assault cases?

    Based on the 2013 fbi statistics are the more than 825,000 US police officers fears (ie, going home to their families) real or imagined when 27 die as a result of felonious acts and 14,556 are injured from assault?
    Post edited by JC29856 on
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited December 2014
    JC29856 said:

    From the fbi statistics of the 49,851 officers that were assaulted only 14,556, were actually injured.

    Would Darren Wilson be classified as injured or uninjured?

    In any case what can we deduce from the assault charges to injury from assault cases?

    Based on the 2013 fbi statistics are the more than 825,000 US police officers fears (ie, going home to their families) real or imagined when 27 die as a result of felonious acts and 14,556 are injured from assault?

    Of course their fears are real. Put yourself in their shoes. Any person they encounter could potentially shoot and kill them. They stand between freedom and prison and the natural drive of animals to remain free is strong.

    Hate to be a cop that pulls over car on dark night.

    If a cop does something wrong they should be penalized but we created the shit they now have to deal with. Society is the problem not cops.

    Post edited by callen on
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  • JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://killedbypolice.net/

    1029 police kills and counting....

    How many were unjustified in your view?
    Only a fool would comment on those without knowing the details on all 1029 people killed by police so far this year...I'm not even sure the number is accurate.
    If accurate it's pretty unbelievable that in 3 years the police have killed more people than were killed on 9/11
    What the fuck are you talking about here? It's your post and your link.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://killedbypolice.net/

    1029 police kills and counting....

    How many were unjustified in your view?
    Only a fool would comment on those without knowing the details on all 1029 people killed by police so far this year...I'm not even sure the number is accurate.
    If accurate it's pretty unbelievable that in 3 years the police have killed more people than were killed on 9/11
    What the fuck are you talking about here? It's your post and your link.
    Sometimes masturbation can relieve stress and anxiety.
  • JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://killedbypolice.net/

    1029 police kills and counting....

    How many were unjustified in your view?
    Only a fool would comment on those without knowing the details on all 1029 people killed by police so far this year...I'm not even sure the number is accurate.
    If accurate it's pretty unbelievable that in 3 years the police have killed more people than were killed on 9/11
    What the fuck are you talking about here? It's your post and your link.
    Sometimes masturbation can relieve stress and anxiety.
    Thanks for the tip. Answer the question. Because I'm certain you're not saying I'm a fool here. The question was how many do YOU think we're unjustified. Did you read your own link?
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://killedbypolice.net/

    1029 police kills and counting....

    How many were unjustified in your view?
    Only a fool would comment on those without knowing the details on all 1029 people killed by police so far this year...I'm not even sure the number is accurate.
    If accurate it's pretty unbelievable that in 3 years the police have killed more people than were killed on 9/11
    What the fuck are you talking about here? It's your post and your link.
    Sometimes masturbation can relieve stress and anxiety.
    Thanks for the tip. Answer the question. Because I'm certain you're not saying I'm a fool here. The question was how many do YOU think we're unjustified. Did you read your own link?
    No I didn't say anyone is was a fool. I'm was saying that I typically don't comment on things I don't have any clue about.
    You notice i don't comment on creationism draught and immigration? It's a list of people killed by police.
    If i said "1030 people were killed by police" the responses would be: I'm not sure where you getting that number from or if your numbers are accurate and etc. So I provide a list of more than 1000 people killed by police and the response asks me my opinion on all 1029 killings?
    Wasn't my answer clear? You want me to comment out my ass "ah golly, i think ah about um 30% were unjustified"?

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    hedonist said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://killedbypolice.net/

    1029 police kills and counting....

    How many were unjustified in your view?
    Only a fool would comment on those without knowing the details on all 1029 people killed by police so far this year...I'm not even sure the number is accurate.
    If accurate it's pretty unbelievable that in 3 years the police have killed more people than were killed on 9/11
    Kind of rude, no? A fair question was asked; no commentary.

    And if even commentary was included, do you expect people to read each and every one of the instances in your link? Have you?

    I browsed the list and it was tough to tell by the link titles - though I'd imagine some would have cloudy circumstances around them.
    Heres another reply ...
    Rude....? how so, to who?
    No I don't expect everyone or anyone to read every instance, maybe I posted the link for informational purposes for those that didn't know such a page existed.
    Have I...no...that's why I can't won't answer the question.
    And the WTFs are directed at me?

    For anyone that wants pure commentary or talk-out-ass then ignore my posts.
  • JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://killedbypolice.net/

    1029 police kills and counting....

    How many were unjustified in your view?
    Only a fool would comment on those without knowing the details on all 1029 people killed by police so far this year...I'm not even sure the number is accurate.
    If accurate it's pretty unbelievable that in 3 years the police have killed more people than were killed on 9/11
    What the fuck are you talking about here? It's your post and your link.
    Sometimes masturbation can relieve stress and anxiety.
    Thanks for the tip. Answer the question. Because I'm certain you're not saying I'm a fool here. The question was how many do YOU think we're unjustified. Did you read your own link?
    No I didn't say anyone is was a fool. I'm was saying that I typically don't comment on things I don't have any clue about.
    You notice i don't comment on creationism draught and immigration? It's a list of people killed by police.
    If i said "1030 people were killed by police" the responses would be: I'm not sure where you getting that number from or if your numbers are accurate and etc. So I provide a list of more than 1000 people killed by police and the response asks me my opinion on all 1029 killings?
    Wasn't my answer clear? You want me to comment out my ass "ah golly, i think ah about um 30% were unjustified"?

    I'm sorry Jc. I completely misread your post. It's been one of those days.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://killedbypolice.net/

    1029 police kills and counting....

    How many were unjustified in your view?
    Only a fool would comment on those without knowing the details on all 1029 people killed by police so far this year...I'm not even sure the number is accurate.
    If accurate it's pretty unbelievable that in 3 years the police have killed more people than were killed on 9/11
    What the fuck are you talking about here? It's your post and your link.
    Sometimes masturbation can relieve stress and anxiety.
    Thanks for the tip. Answer the question. Because I'm certain you're not saying I'm a fool here. The question was how many do YOU think we're unjustified. Did you read your own link?
    No I didn't say anyone is was a fool. I'm was saying that I typically don't comment on things I don't have any clue about.
    You notice i don't comment on creationism draught and immigration? It's a list of people killed by police.
    If i said "1030 people were killed by police" the responses would be: I'm not sure where you getting that number from or if your numbers are accurate and etc. So I provide a list of more than 1000 people killed by police and the response asks me my opinion on all 1029 killings?
    Wasn't my answer clear? You want me to comment out my ass "ah golly, i think ah about um 30% were unjustified"?

    I'm sorry Jc. I completely misread your post. It's been one of those days.
    No worries, maybe today would be a good day to clear the house and get one of those Chris Rock "good jerks" in.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

    Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

    They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

    The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    JC29856 said:

    hedonist said:

    JC29856 said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://killedbypolice.net/

    1029 police kills and counting....

    How many were unjustified in your view?
    Only a fool would comment on those without knowing the details on all 1029 people killed by police so far this year...I'm not even sure the number is accurate.
    If accurate it's pretty unbelievable that in 3 years the police have killed more people than were killed on 9/11
    Kind of rude, no? A fair question was asked; no commentary.

    And if even commentary was included, do you expect people to read each and every one of the instances in your link? Have you?

    I browsed the list and it was tough to tell by the link titles - though I'd imagine some would have cloudy circumstances around them.
    Heres another reply ...
    Rude....? how so, to who?
    No I don't expect everyone or anyone to read every instance, maybe I posted the link for informational purposes for those that didn't know such a page existed.
    Have I...no...that's why I can't won't answer the question.
    And the WTFs are directed at me?

    For anyone that wants pure commentary or talk-out-ass then ignore my posts.
    I guess, had you'd said "I'd be a fool to comment on..." it might not have been so easily misconstrued. Anyway, my mistake. Thanks for clarifying.

    (by the way, some of those WTFs may have been related to that weird string of posts awhile back. Who knows)

  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    What exactly are we talking about here.Its making my head hurt.
    But JC,how many of those killed by law enforcement were A.commiting a crime or had just Commited a crime.B.Were a threat real or interpreted against themselves or others?
    I bet the number of "Innocent" victims is quite small.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    rr165892 said:

    What exactly are we talking about here.Its making my head hurt.
    But JC,how many of those killed by law enforcement were A.commiting a crime or had just Commited a crime.B.Were a threat real or interpreted against themselves or others?
    I bet the number of "Innocent" victims is quite small.

    "Good jerks"
    A. 1111
    B. 1111
    Quite small indeed.
  • Godfather.Godfather. Posts: 12,504
    well next time you have an emergency and don't trust the cops call your local gang members I'm sure they would be willing to help....especially if you own a liquor store or other retail business. =))

    Godfather.
  • muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    JC29856 said:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

    Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

    They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

    The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

    Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,282
    edited December 2014
    Yeah we should just let police kill anybody they want.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    muskydan said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

    Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

    They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

    The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

    Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.

    (takes bait like a largemouth) I keep reading at nausium about getting the police society wants, what police does society want? Describe it....
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327
    muskydan said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

    Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

    They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

    The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

    Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.
    how is what they did a slap to all law enforcement? also, you keep saying that people will get the police that they demand, do you care to explain what you mean by that?
  • I'm pretty sure he means that in time- and likely very soon- law enforcement will be taking anyone to wear the uniform given the rather dismal state of the profession.

    I read somewhere of a movement in Los Angeles to assemble a more diverse police force. In doing so, the LAPD embraced some people who also served gangs. Corruption ensued and the LAPD wore egg on its face as a result. I'll try to find the piece again.

    And before anybody squirts a rosebud into their pants, I am not saying an ethnically diverse police force is not good. It would be ideal; however, I maintain that the right people need to assume the positions- not just anyone to fill a quota.

    Who in their right mind wants to be a cop in this climate? Good luck finding the 'right people' for the job.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    I think before we see the police society wants society would be used to robots pouring its lattes.
  • fifefife Posts: 3,327

    I'm pretty sure he means that in time- and likely very soon- law enforcement will be taking anyone to wear the uniform given the rather dismal state of the profession.

    I read somewhere of a movement in Los Angeles to assemble a more diverse police force. In doing so, the LAPD embraced some people who also served gangs. Corruption ensued and the LAPD wore egg on its face as a result. I'll try to find the piece again.

    And before anybody squirts a rosebud into their pants, I am not saying an ethnically diverse police force is not good. It would be ideal; however, I maintain that the right people need to assume the positions- not just anyone to fill a quota.

    Who in their right mind wants to be a cop in this climate? Good luck finding the 'right people' for the job.

    sorry thirty, but what climate are we in?

    I think everyone agrees that we need the right people do become cops but who are those right people? I want cops who are going to fight for justice and I believe that most cops want that too. cops who do bad shit put all cops in an unsafe situation.

  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    muskydan said:

    JC29856 said:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/226862-congressional-staff-walk-out-over-brown-garner-decisions

    Congressional staff members staged a walkout Thursday in protest of the recent killings of black men by police officers, both of which did not result in grand jury indictments.

    They were protesting the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., and Eric Garner in New York. Protesters have gathered nationwide in the wake of the decisions by grand juries to clear the officers who killed both men.

    The walkout comes as both chambers attempt to pass a $1.1 trillion spending measure and avoid another government shutdown.

    Our Country is so Fucked when congressional members are Supporting those upstanding citizens of society this way... Essentially spitting in the face of all law enforcement. Ghetto and Liberal Society will be getting the Police they are demanding. Stay tooned, it's going 2 get real interesting and real Bloody....Blinders, Blinders, Blinders...I guess the 30 years on the job guys were right afterall , the most dangerous weapon in a Police officers toolbox is your Pen.
    Then the complaint will be there is not enough police around.The police respond to slow.Crime is really rising.Drug activity /gang violence will increase and continue to take over neighborhoods once thought of as "good" areas.
    Two cop shootings last night alone in my neck of the woods(comfy white areas).Both cases perp fired on arriving officers first after a domestic quarrel.Both put down.Also 2 officers shot last night in Atlanta.Not sure of present condition.I wouldn't want to go to work everyday knowing Its a real possibility I will get shot.
    "Hands up ,don't shoot "is easy to say when in reality I believe the people protesting have no idea the amount of deadly violence law enforcement experience directed at them everyday.Would make me a little more on guard.Very understandable.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited December 2014
    Violent crime has decreased last 10 years, since avocado album, victimless crime soared
  • What climate are we in? Seriously?

    Do you think 10 cop bashing threads running concurrently with each other doesn't say something about the current levels of respect for the policing profession?

    If you want good people to enter the profession, then be prepared to treat them very well. If poor salaries aren't enough to dissuade the 'right' person from entering the profession, the general disdain for the police might be enough.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    What climate are we in? Seriously?

    Do you think 10 cop bashing threads running concurrently with each other doesn't say something about the current levels of respect for the policing profession?

    If you want good people to enter the profession, then be prepared to treat them very well. If poor salaries aren't enough to dissuade the 'right' person from entering the profession, the general disdain for the police might be enough.

    I think current levels of policing says something about the current policing profession.

    Do you think pearl jam fans in Denmark 15 years ago says something about PJ fans in Denmark 15 years ago?
  • JC29856 said:

    What climate are we in? Seriously?

    Do you think 10 cop bashing threads running concurrently with each other doesn't say something about the current levels of respect for the policing profession?

    If you want good people to enter the profession, then be prepared to treat them very well. If poor salaries aren't enough to dissuade the 'right' person from entering the profession, the general disdain for the police might be enough.

    I think current levels of policing says something about the current policing profession.

    Do you think pearl jam fans in Denmark 15 years ago says something about PJ fans in Denmark 15 years ago?
    What a silly comparison.

    You keep basing an entire profession's credibility on the sensationalized high profile cases where poor work was exhibited.

    Do you understand that countless good police work occurs every day that completely obliterates the idea that you seem to really want to promote- that cops suck?

    For perspective... what do you do? Is your profession so squeaky clean that you feel it is your place to shit all over another?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697

    JC29856 said:

    What climate are we in? Seriously?

    Do you think 10 cop bashing threads running concurrently with each other doesn't say something about the current levels of respect for the policing profession?

    If you want good people to enter the profession, then be prepared to treat them very well. If poor salaries aren't enough to dissuade the 'right' person from entering the profession, the general disdain for the police might be enough.

    I think current levels of policing says something about the current policing profession.

    Do you think pearl jam fans in Denmark 15 years ago says something about PJ fans in Denmark 15 years ago?
    What a silly comparison.

    You keep basing an entire profession's credibility on the sensationalized high profile cases where poor work was exhibited.

    Do you understand that countless good police work occurs every day that completely obliterates the idea that you seem to really want to promote- that cops suck?

    For perspective... what do you do? Is your profession so squeaky clean that you feel it is your place to shit all over another?
    Nice work thirty.
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    JC29856 said:

    What climate are we in? Seriously?

    Do you think 10 cop bashing threads running concurrently with each other doesn't say something about the current levels of respect for the policing profession?

    If you want good people to enter the profession, then be prepared to treat them very well. If poor salaries aren't enough to dissuade the 'right' person from entering the profession, the general disdain for the police might be enough.

    I think current levels of policing says something about the current policing profession.

    Do you think pearl jam fans in Denmark 15 years ago says something about PJ fans in Denmark 15 years ago?
    What a silly comparison.

    You keep basing an entire profession's credibility on the sensationalized high profile cases where poor work was exhibited.

    Do you understand that countless good police work occurs every day that completely obliterates the idea that you seem to really want to promote- that cops suck?

    For perspective... what do you do? Is your profession so squeaky clean that you feel it is your place to shit all over another?
    The same way i keep basing an entire fan base on one incident, the same way SOME based a band on one incident!

  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    BTW... I manage, promote and account for local bands in the tri state area. PA NJ DE
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