Some facts for the Obama haters

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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    Gern Blansten said:

    Jason P said:

    Arguing over how Bush or Obama handled the national debt is like debating between which NFL team has a more competent offense, the Jaguars or the Raiders ...

    Actually it's not. Bush cut taxes and took us into multiple wars.

    And Obama raised taxes and took us into multiple wars.

    either way, the debt ceiling keeps on having to be raised.
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited November 2014
    Jason P said:

    Arguing over how Bush or Obama handled the national debt is like debating between which NFL team has a more competent offense, the Jaguars or the Raiders ...

    Your lucky you didn't reference the greatness that is my Tampa Bay Bucs.Them there woulda been fighting words Jason.

    Posted this before I saw the shot across my bow from others.
    Post edited by rr165892 on
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Last-12-Exit said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    Jason P said:

    Arguing over how Bush or Obama handled the national debt is like debating between which NFL team has a more competent offense, the Jaguars or the Raiders ...

    There's ever been a team with an offense less competent than the current Raiders?

    =))
    Tampa Bay their first 2 years?
    Lol. The first 2? That's quite generous.
    Last -12 I know your my southern fingerless brother ,but lay off my Bucs.Im in pain.Do you know what it's like to be a lifelong Suckaneers fan?
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Our cheerleaders are smoking hot though
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,409
    rr165892 said:

    Our cheerleaders are smoking hot though

    Please no objectifying of the cheerleaders








    :ar!
  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    rr165892 said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Bentleyspop said:

    brianlux said:

    Jason P said:

    Arguing over how Bush or Obama handled the national debt is like debating between which NFL team has a more competent offense, the Jaguars or the Raiders ...

    There's ever been a team with an offense less competent than the current Raiders?

    =))
    Tampa Bay their first 2 years?
    Lol. The first 2? That's quite generous.
    Last -12 I know your my southern fingerless brother ,but lay off my Bucs.Im in pain.Do you know what it's like to be a lifelong Suckaneers fan?
    Uhhhhh I'm a life long Chicago Cubs fan. So yeah, I kinda do!
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Ok then you really do
  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Bentleyspop said:

    rr165892 said:

    Our cheerleaders are smoking hot though

    Please no objectifying of the cheerleaders








    :ar!
    I def am not objecting to them .Oh objectifying.my bad
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    I see the cat's unwinding the ball of twine again here, haha!
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Keeps things fresh.
  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,295
    I don't like to include Division 2 teams when making my analogies. :D
    rr165892 said:

    Jason P said:

    Arguing over how Bush or Obama handled the national debt is like debating between which NFL team has a more competent offense, the Jaguars or the Raiders ...

    Your lucky you didn't reference the greatness that is my Tampa Bay Bucs.Them there woulda been fighting words Jason.

    Posted this before I saw the shot across my bow from others.
    I don't like to include Division 2 teams when making my analogies. :D
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  • rr165892
    rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    Jason P said:

    I don't like to include Division 2 teams when making my analogies. :D

    rr165892 said:

    Jason P said:

    Arguing over how Bush or Obama handled the national debt is like debating between which NFL team has a more competent offense, the Jaguars or the Raiders ...

    Your lucky you didn't reference the greatness that is my Tampa Bay Bucs.Them there woulda been fighting words Jason.

    Posted this before I saw the shot across my bow from others.
    I don't like to include Division 2 teams when making my analogies. :D
    You see there J,you had to go there.Keep your head on a swivel my friend.Paybacks are a bitch.Lol
  • Cliffy6745
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  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Dont forget the 6% unemployment rate! I believe Santa Claus will bring the US more jobs

    For 50 straight months when i ask my family friends and neighbors are you better off this month compared to last month? they all say NO, must be me.

  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Cliffy6745 said:

    Who is this guy? Serious question.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Justin James Michael Wolfers is an Australian economist and public policy scholar. He is professor of economics and public policy at the University of Michigan, and a Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics.
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  • Last-12-Exit
    Last-12-Exit Charleston, SC Posts: 8,661
    Gern Blansten said:

    Justin James Michael Wolfers is an Australian economist and public policy scholar. He is professor of economics and public policy at the University of Michigan, and a Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics.

    Not bad credentials.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,255
    edited December 2014
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    Bentleyspop said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Excuse you for spreading that misinformation. The national debt on the first day of Obamas presidency was $10.626 trillion. Today, the national debt is just over $18 trillion. Like I said, he has almost doubled the national debt.

    Okay then....
    When the Cheney/Rove regime started the national debt was 5.8 trillion.
    At the end it was 11.9 trillion.
    An increase of 6.1 trillion
    An increase of 105%

    Using your figures the actual percentage increase during the Obama presidency is 59%.

    Last I checked their is a large difference between 105% and 59%.
    105% is actually more than double.

    But I'm sure you'll come back with potato and I'll say potato and in the long run it won't really matter. But maybe some people will read these posts and take a couple of minutes and do some research and get the facts.
    Both increases suck.
    Post edited by bootlegger10 on
  • mickeyrat
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    Bentleyspop said:

    Last-12-Exit said:

    Just to be clear, where I didn't blam Obama outright for the economic collapse, he holds blame. He is responsible for almost doubling the national debt.

    Posts like this one spread misinformation.
    A very little bit of research in under 1 minute finds the actual factual truth.

    In 2009 shortly after Obama took over the national debt was just under 12 trillion.
    As of 3 months ago it was just under 18 trillion.
    If I do my basic elementary math correctly that is a 50% increase not 200%.

    In checking recent history its easy to find that in 2000 the debt was around 5.5 trillion and by late 2008 the debt was 10.5 trillion.
    Once again doing basic elementary math that means during the Cheney/Rove regime the debt increased 190%.

    Yes it is a much higher dollar amount and yes it is bad. But, the overall percent increase is much less than during the previous govt.
    it also doesnt help having the congress not pass actual budgets, reform the tax code , not only reduce deficit spending but use whatever budget surplus we know is possible to pay down the debt owed. Seems that course was working before a tax rebate program. Engaging in a war on two fronts against an ideology without funding it, adding a medicare program without funding it. I could go on.


    For a group of people supposedly all about business, what in borrowing more than you "earn" makes sound financial sense?
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  • Cliffy6745
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    Methinks Obama isn't going to be looked at so unfavorably in the future.

    Pretty pretty strong jobs report.

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