BILL COSBY IS A CONVICTED RAPIST

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  • The Juggler
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    hedonist said:

    ldent42 said:

    hedonist said:

    ldent42 said:

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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    I see what happened up there, mister!

    Surely you knew this would follow (though I hope by his name, not fittingly).

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  • The Waiting Trophy Man
    The Waiting Trophy Man Niagara region, Ontario, Canada Posts: 12,158
    pjhawks said:

    The Waiting Trophy Man said:

    More than a dozen? Are you sure?

    He's never been charged and there isn't a shred of evidence. So far the 2 things that stand out to me is he's rich and he's black. Racism and gold digging at work, it seems.

    You guys realize there are a lot of crazy bitches out there, right? Bitches be crazy!

    what are your thoughts on the story i posted about where the former Montgomery County Pennsylvania DA thinks he is guilty in the 2004 case but didn't have enough to get a conviction so didn't charge him? he is crazy too?
    I don't trust lawyers. Like someone said, maybe he's seeking publicity? Maybe he hated The Cosby Show, who the hell knows? If he didn't have enough to get a conviction then what's he basing his opinion of guilt on? Because some former model or Wanna-be actress said Bill Cosby raped her 3 decades ago? For every prosecutor trying to convict someone of a crime there is a defence lawyer trying to defend them. Same wi Cosby's lawyer. Of course he says his client is innocent. But what's he basing that on? He's his lawyer, so he's going to defend him. All I know is that he's never been charged and there's been nothing but allegations made - no evidence. Until then, I have to believe he's innocent.

    What I'd like to know is who gets date raped in 1982 and then comes forward in 2005? I think one accuser said he raped her in 1969. I'm not sure what any woman has to gain by making these allegations? But I know Cosby has been in the limelight a lot more and he's old. Maybe someone is trying to get a quick out-of-court settlement while he's making money/before he dies? I'll believe that before I believe Bill Cosby drugged and raped women - including during the time he was starring on The Cosby Show. That's just nuts.
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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    Why do people act like they knew bill Cosby and what he would and wouldn't do?

    Some pathetic comments here
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,598
    edited November 2014
    The Waiting Trophy Man said:

    pjhawks said:

    The Waiting Trophy Man said:

    More than a dozen? Are you sure?

    He's never been charged and there isn't a shred of evidence. So far the 2 things that stand out to me is he's rich and he's black. Racism and gold digging at work, it seems.

    You guys realize there are a lot of crazy bitches out there, right? Bitches be crazy!

    what are your thoughts on the story i posted about where the former Montgomery County Pennsylvania DA thinks he is guilty in the 2004 case but didn't have enough to get a conviction so didn't charge him? he is crazy too?
    I don't trust lawyers. Like someone said, maybe he's seeking publicity? Maybe he hated The Cosby Show, who the hell knows? If he didn't have enough to get a conviction then what's he basing his opinion of guilt on? Because some former model or Wanna-be actress said Bill Cosby raped her 3 decades ago? For every prosecutor trying to convict someone of a crime there is a defence lawyer trying to defend them. Same wi Cosby's lawyer. Of course he says his client is innocent. But what's he basing that on? He's his lawyer, so he's going to defend him. All I know is that he's never been charged and there's been nothing but allegations made - no evidence. Until then, I have to believe he's innocent.

    What I'd like to know is who gets date raped in 1982 and then comes forward in 2005? I think one accuser said he raped her in 1969. I'm not sure what any woman has to gain by making these allegations? But I know Cosby has been in the limelight a lot more and he's old. Maybe someone is trying to get a quick out-of-court settlement while he's making money/before he dies? I'll believe that before I believe Bill Cosby drugged and raped women - including during the time he was starring on The Cosby Show. That's just nuts.
    so because he was a funny and seemingly wholesome actor/comedian, you can't believe for a second that the real person was different? doesn't the fact that he settled out of court 10 years ago lead you to believe that he might be guilty of something? if you're innocent, go to court and clear your name.

    and, dude.....he supposedly DRUGGED these women. their memories were clouded after he gave them these pills. what chance would a 20 year girl have saying bill cosby (who was one of the biggest stars in the country) raped her back then, especially if her memory was cloudy? none. zero. not worth the ridicule and ruination of their careers.

    and what about the fact that 15 middle aged, to old, women now....who do not know each other....have all come forward and all have pretty much the same kind of story? this isn't like one star obsessed young girl looking to advance her career in today's warped world of social media/reality culture. these are old ladies! they have nothing to gain, other than to get their story out and to clear their consciousness. i would imagine the first one's have to feel a certain level of guilt for not going to the police and knowing that their inaction probably just emboldened this fucking guy to rape more women over the next few decades.


    and bruce castor was my county's district attorney for a while. say what you want about lawyers, but i've always found him to be a stand up guy and pretty reasonable. and the reason he can talk now, is because the statue of limitations for his case has run out, i believe. and what he is saying makes sense....that sometimes as a da or lawyer, you believe the victims stories, but you don't think you can prove it in a court of law. to me, that rings true in this case here where the victim claims she was drugged.

    he also said in his opinion the victim came across as credible while cosby came across as evasive. and he has nothing to gain by giving that interview.


    this isn't dr huxtable we are talking about....we're talking about an actor who played dr huxtable on tv.
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  • The Juggler
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    i think this is pretty damning video of the ap interview. you almost feel bad for ol' cos.....until, that is, you think of what he is asking the journalist to do. i think cosby is a scum bag:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RI6z97Efw3I
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  • The Juggler
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    edited November 2014
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/20/i-warned-you-about-bill-cosby-in-2007.html
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  • JK_Livin
    JK_Livin South Jersey Posts: 7,365
    The Juggler said:

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/11/20/i-warned-you-about-bill-cosby-in-2007.html

    Wow.
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  • The Juggler
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    his spanish fly routine...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAorIG6MZnc
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  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    For those who've already mentally deemed him guilty - do you not consider that jumping the gun along with those who don blinders?

    Does evidence matter?

    I'm on the fence with this one; wish I weren't but fuckit - too much woodwork-crawling, he said-she said shit.
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    The Juggler said:

    his spanish fly routine...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAorIG6MZnc

    Listening to that 'comedy' bit...Yikes!
  • Idris
    Idris Posts: 2,317
    ldent42 said:

    So I wouldn't have to see it. I avoid that section. This section, AET is where I read/post most of the time.

    Cool,
  • The Juggler
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    hedonist said:

    For those who've already mentally deemed him guilty - do you not consider that jumping the gun along with those who don blinders?

    Does evidence matter?

    I'm on the fence with this one; wish I weren't but fuckit - too much woodwork-crawling, he said-she said shit.

    how do you expect to find evidence of a rape from decades ago? sometimes you just have to put 2 and 2 together to form your opinion.


    and it's just he said-she said. it's he said-, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she, she etc etc etc etc said.....15 or so old women, who do not know each other, who have nothing to gain. i'm not sure why they would all make this up....and all have eerily similiar stories.
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  • The Juggler
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    Idris said:

    The Juggler said:

    his spanish fly routine...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAorIG6MZnc

    Listening to that 'comedy' bit...Yikes!
    regardless of these allegations.....how is every woman in the world not outraged by this "bit?" he's making light of drugging women so he can have his way with them.

    how in the world is that funny?
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  • Idris
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    The Juggler said:

    Idris said:

    The Juggler said:

    his spanish fly routine...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAorIG6MZnc

    Listening to that 'comedy' bit...Yikes!
    regardless of these allegations.....how is every woman in the world not outraged by this "bit?" he's making light of drugging women so he can have his way with them.

    how in the world is that funny?
    Right!
    And Another scary thing...The thousand plus people (men and women) who were in the crowd laughing.

    Its all very telling (society)
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,030
    http://gawker.com/the-undoing-of-bill-cosby-1660641408

    But Bill Cosby is not Cliff Huxtable. Cliff Huxtable was fiction. Hilton Als reminds us: "The power of fiction is that it includes everyone." The power of Cliff Huxtable was his ability to embody many meanings. We all saw fragments of the dad we knew or the dad we wanted in Cliff.
  • rival.
    rival. Chicago Posts: 7,775
    maybe this is all a smear job to discredit his voice for when shit hits the fan with the michael brown ruling. cosby has really only been the consistent, outspoken african american, regarding negative african american conduct.

    :-?
  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    One of the women who came forward said she felt she could now because her parents are elderly & won't understand or hear about it. And she felt like at this point in her life she's beyond the effects of the stigma.

    I do consider the testimony of the women to be a type of evidence. Also isn't rape the only violent crime when the burden of proof is on the victim?
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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
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    I do consider the testimony of the women to be a type of evidence. Also isn't rape the only violent crime when the burden of proof is on the victim?

    Of course testimony of women is evidence. Just not the basis of a conviction barring any other physical evidence.

    The burden of proof in a burglary is on the victim/accuser as well if they name an alleged perp isn't it? Any time one party names another party the burden of proof is on the accuser (or should be). And barring any corroborating physical evidence, an arrest won't likely be made for that burglary.

    I am not defending Cosby because he's Bill Cosby. I agree that it appears he's got something shady going on in his personal life. But I can't condemn him based on decades old stories and so far ZERO evidence. Give me a couple of pieces of actual, solid evidence and I'm on the bandwagon to have him hanged from a tree. But at this point if 30 more women come forward parroting the same story we've already heard and yet we still have no physical evidence of any kind, I still will remain on the fence waiting. I wouldn't trust him alone with my mom, wife or daughter at this point (which is sad if he's actually innocent), but I also wouldn't send him to the gallows based on the current circumstances.
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  • Idris
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    jeffbr said:

    ldent42 said:


    I do consider the testimony of the women to be a type of evidence. Also isn't rape the only violent crime when the burden of proof is on the victim?

    Of course testimony of women is evidence. Just not the basis of a conviction barring any other physical evidence.

    The burden of proof in a burglary is on the victim/accuser as well if they name an alleged perp isn't it? Any time one party names another party the burden of proof is on the accuser (or should be). And barring any corroborating physical evidence, an arrest won't likely be made for that burglary.

    I am not defending Cosby because he's Bill Cosby. I agree that it appears he's got something shady going on in his personal life. But I can't condemn him based on decades old stories and so far ZERO evidence. Give me a couple of pieces of actual, solid evidence and I'm on the bandwagon to have him hanged from a tree. But at this point if 30 more women come forward parroting the same story we've already heard and yet we still have no physical evidence of any kind, I still will remain on the fence waiting. I wouldn't trust him alone with my mom, wife or daughter at this point (which is sad if he's actually innocent), but I also wouldn't send him to the gallows based on the current circumstances.
    I agree, and well said btw.

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