BILL COSBY IS A CONVICTED RAPIST

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,943

    More than a dozen? Are you sure?

    He's never been charged and there isn't a shred of evidence. So far the 2 things that stand out to me is he's rich and he's black. Racism and gold digging at work, it seems.

    You guys realize there are a lot of crazy bitches out there, right? Bitches be crazy!

    what are your thoughts on the story i posted about where the former Montgomery County Pennsylvania DA thinks he is guilty in the 2004 case but didn't have enough to get a conviction so didn't charge him? he is crazy too?
  • hedonist
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    I'm not sure where race comes in; haven't seen it mentioned in anything I've read so far.

    I get that some weird gold-bandwagon thing may be involved, but because he's black?

    This whole debacle has morphed into an odd clusterfuck (not necessarily or solely here, but the commentary, speculations, fucking Dickinson, etc.). I just don't know.
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    After believing the the Lance Armstrong story for some time that he was clean. I now don't put anything past anyone of what they are possibly capable of doing whether that's a good thing or criminal.

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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    15 women. 15.

    Yea, totes, bitches be cray.

    Since after all, filing a police report recounting every single traumatizing detail of what happened to you while proving that you were victimized and not "asking for it" based on what you drank and what clothes you wore and getting an intrusive medical examination are the easiest things in the world to do when you're traumatized from a personal violation as severe as rape.


    Oh how I wish this fucking thread was in AMT.
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  • Idris
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    ldent42 said:



    Oh how I wish this fucking thread was in AMT.

    just curious, 'why' do you wish this (thread) was on the M train?
  • ldent42
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    So I wouldn't have to see it. I avoid that section. This section, AET is where I read/post most of the time.
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  • lolobugg
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    this is so fucked up for a whole generation of kids that grew up with this guy. including yours truly
    if he is guilty then I hope justice finally gets served.

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  • Jason P
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    NBC cancels Cosby Sitcom

    Netflix cancels Cosby special

    Comedy Central cancels Cosby special

    Judge, Jury, Executioner ...

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  • pjhawks
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    Jason P said:

    NBC cancels Cosby Sitcom

    Netflix cancels Cosby special

    Comedy Central cancels Cosby special

    Judge, Jury, Executioner ...

    image

    yea because not having a show on TV is somehow the equivalent of prison. dear lord
    :-O

    he's lucky he is never going to serve jail time. again see my post on the previous page from the former PA District Attorney who thinks he is guilty.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    edited November 2014
    I just want some actual evidence before crying for him to be in prison. Innocent before proven guilty. I'm not a Cosby fan or anything. Has nothing to do with that. I just don't like witch hunts that are based on no real evidence. For me, a handful of women making accusations doesn't actually hold much water when it comes to accusing very rich and famous people of crimes. There are a LOT of people in the world who would falsley accuse people for shit just because they have mental issues or think they can get money or some kind of attention from it. I'm NOT saying that is the case here.... but it's the reason I want more evidence collected by the police before I act like I know he's guilty.

    I do find it hard to believe that 15 women came out, and not only did none of THEM get examined or go to the cops when it happened, but, given that number and then assuming there would be MANY more vicitims who haven't spoken up if 15 have, it's hard to imagine that not a single one of them ever immediately called the cops or got a rape kit done. Not a single one?? Seems odd is all.

    Anyway, I will watch to see if any evidence ever arises here. In a way I hope so, because if he's innocent, these allegations are ruining his life in short order. That is only okay (and even pleasing) if he's actually guilty!
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  • pjhawks
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    edited November 2014
    PJ_Soul said:

    I just want some actual evidence before crying for him to be in prison. Innocent before proven guilty. I'm not a Cosby fan or anything. Has nothing to do with that. I just don't like witch hunts that are based on no real evidence. For me, a handful of women making accusations doesn't actually hold much water when it comes to accusing very rich and famous people of crimes. There are a LOT of people in the world who would falsley accuse people for shit just because they have mental issues or think they can get money or some kind of attention from it. I'm NOT saying that is the case here.... but it's the reason I want more evidence collected by the police before I act like I know he's guilty.

    I do find it hard to believe that 15 women came out, and not only did none of THEM get examined or go to the cops when it happened, but, given that number and then assuming there would be MANY more vicitims who haven't spoken up if 15 have, it's hard to imagine that not a single one of them ever immediately called the cops or got a rape kit done. Not a single one?? Seems odd is all.

    Anyway, I will watch to see if any evidence ever arises here. In a way I hope so, because if he's innocent, these allegations are ruining his life in short order. That is only okay (and even pleasing) if he's actually guilty!

    i posted a link on the previous page to the story below from NBC10.com in Philadelphia yesterday. Women in 2004 from Temple University did go the police and the DA who got the case believes he is guilty. see below.

    from NBC10.Com
    A former Pennsylvania district attorney who declined to prosecute Bill Cosby on sexual assault allegations in 2005 is speaking out for the first time about why he decided to drop the case. His comments come as past allegations of sexual assaults have resurfaced in recent weeks.

    "I didn’t say that he didn’t commit the crime,” said former Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce Castor. “What I said was there was insufficient, admissible, and reliable evidence upon which to base a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt. That’s 'prosecutors speak' for 'I think he did it but there's just not enough here to prosecute.'”

    Read more: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Former-DA-Who-Dropped-Sex-Assault-Case-Against-Bill-Cosby-Speaks-282993771.html#ixzz3JYBild5N


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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,320
    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    NBC cancels Cosby Sitcom

    Netflix cancels Cosby special

    Comedy Central cancels Cosby special

    Judge, Jury, Executioner ...

    image

    yea because not having a show on TV is somehow the equivalent of prison. dear lord
    :-O

    he's lucky he is never going to serve jail time. again see my post on the previous page from the former PA District Attorney who thinks he is guilty.
    Prison? I'm just pointing out that he was suspended and fired from work without getting due process from the court system, but instead social media.

    I'm in the boat that thinks there are mighty suspicious and similar cases being leveled against Cosby.

    My point is that we are now living in a day where careers can be ended by social media mobs.
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  • hedonist
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    Jason P said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    NBC cancels Cosby Sitcom

    Netflix cancels Cosby special

    Comedy Central cancels Cosby special

    Judge, Jury, Executioner ...

    image

    yea because not having a show on TV is somehow the equivalent of prison. dear lord
    :-O

    he's lucky he is never going to serve jail time. again see my post on the previous page from the former PA District Attorney who thinks he is guilty.
    Prison? I'm just pointing out that he was suspended and fired from work without getting due process from the court system, but instead social media.

    I'm in the boat that thinks there are mighty suspicious and similar cases being leveled against Cosby.

    My point is that we are now living in a day where careers can be ended by social media mobs.
    Great post on the AMT's Brown thread which is similar to this...tough for me to disagree.
  • ldent42
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  • pjhawks
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    Jason P said:

    pjhawks said:

    Jason P said:

    NBC cancels Cosby Sitcom

    Netflix cancels Cosby special

    Comedy Central cancels Cosby special

    Judge, Jury, Executioner ...

    image

    yea because not having a show on TV is somehow the equivalent of prison. dear lord
    :-O

    he's lucky he is never going to serve jail time. again see my post on the previous page from the former PA District Attorney who thinks he is guilty.
    Prison? I'm just pointing out that he was suspended and fired from work without getting due process from the court system, but instead social media.

    I'm in the boat that thinks there are mighty suspicious and similar cases being leveled against Cosby.

    My point is that we are now living in a day where careers can be ended by social media mobs.
    well personally i think his career is being ended by being a piece of shit and not by the social media mobs. in this case sure looks like the social media mobs are doing something good.

  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,716
    edited November 2014
    pjhawks said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    I just want some actual evidence before crying for him to be in prison. Innocent before proven guilty. I'm not a Cosby fan or anything. Has nothing to do with that. I just don't like witch hunts that are based on no real evidence. For me, a handful of women making accusations doesn't actually hold much water when it comes to accusing very rich and famous people of crimes. There are a LOT of people in the world who would falsley accuse people for shit just because they have mental issues or think they can get money or some kind of attention from it. I'm NOT saying that is the case here.... but it's the reason I want more evidence collected by the police before I act like I know he's guilty.

    I do find it hard to believe that 15 women came out, and not only did none of THEM get examined or go to the cops when it happened, but, given that number and then assuming there would be MANY more vicitims who haven't spoken up if 15 have, it's hard to imagine that not a single one of them ever immediately called the cops or got a rape kit done. Not a single one?? Seems odd is all.

    Anyway, I will watch to see if any evidence ever arises here. In a way I hope so, because if he's innocent, these allegations are ruining his life in short order. That is only okay (and even pleasing) if he's actually guilty!

    i posted a link on the previous page to the story below from NBC10.com in Philadelphia yesterday. Women in 2004 from Temple University did go the police and the DA who got the case believes he is guilty. see below.

    from NBC10.Com
    A former Pennsylvania district attorney who declined to prosecute Bill Cosby on sexual assault allegations in 2005 is speaking out for the first time about why he decided to drop the case. His comments come as past allegations of sexual assaults have resurfaced in recent weeks.

    "I didn’t say that he didn’t commit the crime,” said former Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce Castor. “What I said was there was insufficient, admissible, and reliable evidence upon which to base a conviction beyond a reasonable doubt. That’s 'prosecutors speak' for 'I think he did it but there's just not enough here to prosecute.'”

    Read more: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Former-DA-Who-Dropped-Sex-Assault-Case-Against-Bill-Cosby-Speaks-282993771.html#ixzz3JYBild5N
    Okay, to clarify, I mean EVIDENCE evidence. Not the kind that no one has. ;)
    Not sure where that DA is coming from, but for all we know he could be some fame-whoring asshole who is going out of his way to make a sensational comment. Maybe not! But maybe so. As for the woman who went to the cops but there is still no evidence?.... well, either there isn't any evidence, or the cops are happy to ignore it (which wouldn't surprise me).

    Anyway, my stance won't budge: evidence must exist before persecution. For Cosby, for everyone. Anything less leads to innocent people getting fucked over.

    If real evidence is found against Cosby I'll be first in line to say he is a revolting human being. Until then, I have no opinion (literally. I don't defend him either. I am just neutral until something pushes me in one direction or the other).
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  • hedonist
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    ldent42 said:

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    FYI, I lean on myself and my conscience when it comes to my morality ;)
  • The Juggler
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    so......yeah, he's pretty much a rapist, huh? serial one, at that. those poor women.
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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    hedonist said:

    ldent42 said:

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    FYI, I lean on myself and my conscience when it comes to my morality ;)
    That sounds painful.
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  • hedonist
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    ldent42 said:

    hedonist said:

    ldent42 said:

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    FYI, I lean on myself and my conscience when it comes to my morality ;)
    That sounds painful.
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