The planet as well as humanity could use an affective plague to knock out 60-70% of human population.
From a purely objective view point, this is absolutely true in terms of giving the planet a chance to restore a much better ecological balance. Or we could voluntarily stop reproducing in such great numbers but, as Dave Foreman pointed out in the documentary "Wilderness", that notion seems to have become politically incorrect. Too bad because if we don't do it, Mother Nature will.
Yeah population troubles are nasty. How do you tell a young couple that they are the ones who have to have only 1 kid or none...easy for the folks who have theirs to say lol not so easy to hear Of course, it's the unintentional childs we gotta stop, but PC aside it's still a toughy. If a mega-plague happens i hope it knocks society down far enough that we get back with nature. The worst would be for billions to die and our current nastiness continued.
aaaaahhh bullshit! Anyways i knew a few fellas same story...tougher than nails, never get sick, never go to drs...and then BAM! riddled with cancer, too bad for treatment, gone in months.
aaaaahhh bullshit! Anyways i knew a few fellas same story...tougher than nails, never get sick, never go to drs...and then BAM! riddled with cancer, too bad for treatment, gone in months.
The planet as well as humanity could use an affective plague to knock out 60-70% of human population.
I agree. It's almost starting to seem like a necessity, sad to say.
With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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Well more than HALF of the population. Wow.
What if you were one of that percentage? Someone you love? Every person in your family, neighborhood, city, state.
Just surprised at the callousness - at least, that's how it strikes me.
If this is about overpopulation, how about people exercise responsibility when having sex, when deciding to have a child, or another child, without the means to do so? "I want to have a baby!" just doesn't cut it for me.
Gah! Been relying on the green vs Tylenol and Advil but have to go that route too this evening. I wish matzo-ball soup did more than comfort (though I'll take it!).
Shawshank, doesn't the excess of vitamin C - as with B - get flushed out once initially absorbed? I do swear by OJ though. Like a panacea sometimes.
The best way to combat any illness is to have a strong immune system. High doses of vitamin C, fermented cod liver oil, elderberry, echinacea, and vitamin D will keep you healthy and will lessen the impact of any illness, especially viruses.
Matzo soup (and any derivative of chicken soup) is really useful as bone broths provide a wide variety of benefits but it really should be homemade with pastured chicken. Over 80% of your immune system is in your gut; bad gut health = poor immune system
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
Gah! Been relying on the green vs Tylenol and Advil but have to go that route too this evening. I wish matzo-ball soup did more than comfort (though I'll take it!).
Shawshank, doesn't the excess of vitamin C - as with B - get flushed out once initially absorbed? I do swear by OJ though. Like a panacea sometimes.
The best way to combat any illness is to have a strong immune system. High doses of vitamin C, fermented cod liver oil, elderberry, echinacea, and vitamin D will keep you healthy and will lessen the impact of any illness, especially viruses.
Matzo soup (and any derivative of chicken soup) is really useful as bone broths provide a wide variety of benefits but it really should be homemade with pastured chicken. Over 80% of your immune system is in your gut; bad gut health = poor immune system
And many vitamins don't absorb well unless you have a good gut microbiome! To piggy back on the Paleo thread, there is a lot to be said for following a "traditional" diet. Although, I think traditionally prepared foods are more important than eschewing grains altogether. Check out Weston Price for great examples of a traditional diet that allows some grains and dairy.
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
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My goodness! I've missed you posting here, riotgrl.
Thank you for the information. Definitely need to up my intake of fruits / vitamin C, and reinstate the supplements.
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Yes! Good to see you here, riotgrl!
My chiropractor (a really cool, smart guy) told me to take 5,000 IU Vitamin D-3 a day (plus my usual regimen of supplements) and if I feel a bug coming on up it to 50,000 IU's of D-3 twice a day for three or four days. It's worked a couple of times this year for me- the latest being a recent bought with a bug going around here that has really knocked some people down. I have a really trashed immune system from having had Epstein Bar virus in the late 80's yet with this recent bug, despite having three days of massive fatigue, I was only partially down part of one day and am coming back fast (did a 2 1/2 miles walk at 8,500 feet today). With winter coming on I'm going into a minimum of a couple of weeks of mostly organic juices, fruits, vegetables and a little protein but no grains and nothing even resembling processed food- not even my relatively healthy whole grain pancakes.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
Reuters is reporting that this nurse taken a flight with Frontier Airlines from Cleveland,Ohio to Dallas /Ft.Worth International on Monday before she had confirmation of diagnosis last night.
Reuters is reporting that this nurse taken a flight with Frontier Airlines from Cleveland,Ohio to Dallas /Ft.Worth International on Monday before she had confirmation of diagnosis last night.
There asking people who were on these flights to call the airline ...
it was only a matter of time before it was over here ...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Reuters is reporting that this nurse taken a flight with Frontier Airlines from Cleveland,Ohio to Dallas /Ft.Worth International on Monday before she had confirmation of diagnosis last night.
There asking people who were on these flights to call the airline ...
it was only a matter of time before it was over here ...
Yes, CDC is reported on Cnn as saying "She should not have travelled". They are also tracking down other passengers that were on these flights so they can "closely monitor them" The flights were Flight 1142 on Oct.10th to Ohio and Flight 1143 Oct. 13th to Dallas.
Reuters is reporting that this nurse taken a flight with Frontier Airlines from Cleveland,Ohio to Dallas /Ft.Worth International on Monday before she had confirmation of diagnosis last night.
There asking people who were on these flights to call the airline ...
it was only a matter of time before it was over here ...
Yes, CDC is reported on Cnn as saying "She should not have travelled". They are also tracking down other passengers that were on these flights so they can "closely monitor them" The flights were Flight 1142 on Oct.10th to Ohio and Flight 1143 Oct. 13th to Dallas.
A travel ban really needed to be put in place in the beginning those countries most effected.
Scary times ...
I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Reuters is reporting that this nurse taken a flight with Frontier Airlines from Cleveland,Ohio to Dallas /Ft.Worth International on Monday before she had confirmation of diagnosis last night.
There asking people who were on these flights to call the airline ...
it was only a matter of time before it was over here ...
Yes, CDC is reported on Cnn as saying "She should not have travelled". They are also tracking down other passengers that were on these flights so they can "closely monitor them" The flights were Flight 1142 on Oct.10th to Ohio and Flight 1143 Oct. 13th to Dallas.
A travel ban really needed to be put in place in the beginning those countries most effected.
I haven't succumbed to the "oh no! panic! we're all going to die!" idea yet, but I'm torn. The fact that NBC medical correspondent, Dr. Nancy Snyderman didn't follow through with the "voluntary confinement"/quarantine that she agreed to is a little concerning to me. She lives very near to where I live and where she went out, in "violation" of her confinement, is even closer to where I work. Though it's not airborne, there are still concerns about this disease. I'm really surprised that a woman who is so prominent in the overall story line of Ebola in the US did not adhere to the guidelines that she voluntarily agreed to. Wouldn't she have guessed that it would caused public concern? Don't you think she has people at her disposal that would go out and pick up take-out dinner for her? It's an odd feeling... I don't really want to be that concerned about it, but hearing about this from people around me makes me think a little bit more about it. Flying to MN tomorrow... Should we wear masks?? Sheesh. The world we live in...
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I think a greater concern is how unprepared our hospitals are for illnesses this highly contagious. I was reading an article today that said we only have 4 (!) hospitals that have biocontainment facilities to handle illnesses such as ebola. I am not a panic kind of person but I think that is a cause for concern IF ebola (or another highly infectious disease) were to hit epidemic proportions in this country.
Are we getting something out of this all-encompassing trip?
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I think a greater concern is how unprepared our hospitals are for illnesses this highly contagious. I was reading an article today that said we only have 4 (!) hospitals that have biocontainment facilities to handle illnesses such as ebola. I am not a panic kind of person but I think that is a cause for concern IF ebola (or another highly infectious disease) were to hit epidemic proportions in this country.
And out of those four hospitals something like only 16 beds available total. Unreal!
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There are so many causes for concern, it's ridiculous.
A news report I just heard mentioned part of the problem is the (unneeded, unrecommended?) over-layering of protection...how it becomes difficult to both put them on and remove. Seems it'd be easy for some kind of contact to occur, no matter how unintentional.
As for the nurse, shame on her. Shame on anyone else who disregards protocol and common sense.
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What if you were one of that percentage? Someone you love? Every person in your family, neighborhood, city, state.
Just surprised at the callousness - at least, that's how it strikes me.
If this is about overpopulation, how about people exercise responsibility when having sex, when deciding to have a child, or another child, without the means to do so? "I want to have a baby!" just doesn't cut it for me.
http://www.wxyz.com/news/2nd-person-in-texas-diagnosed-with-ebola
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
The best way to combat any illness is to have a strong immune system. High doses of vitamin C, fermented cod liver oil, elderberry, echinacea, and vitamin D will keep you healthy and will lessen the impact of any illness, especially viruses.
Matzo soup (and any derivative of chicken soup) is really useful as bone broths provide a wide variety of benefits but it really should be homemade with pastured chicken. Over 80% of your immune system is in your gut; bad gut health = poor immune system
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
Thank you for the information. Definitely need to up my intake of fruits / vitamin C, and reinstate the supplements.
My chiropractor (a really cool, smart guy) told me to take 5,000 IU Vitamin D-3 a day (plus my usual regimen of supplements) and if I feel a bug coming on up it to 50,000 IU's of D-3 twice a day for three or four days. It's worked a couple of times this year for me- the latest being a recent bought with a bug going around here that has really knocked some people down. I have a really trashed immune system from having had Epstein Bar virus in the late 80's yet with this recent bug, despite having three days of massive fatigue, I was only partially down part of one day and am coming back fast (did a 2 1/2 miles walk at 8,500 feet today). With winter coming on I'm going into a minimum of a couple of weeks of mostly organic juices, fruits, vegetables and a little protein but no grains and nothing even resembling processed food- not even my relatively healthy whole grain pancakes.
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
it was only a matter of time before it was over here ...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
Scary times ...
"Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
The fact that NBC medical correspondent, Dr. Nancy Snyderman didn't follow through with the "voluntary confinement"/quarantine that she agreed to is a little concerning to me. She lives very near to where I live and where she went out, in "violation" of her confinement, is even closer to where I work. Though it's not airborne, there are still concerns about this disease. I'm really surprised that a woman who is so prominent in the overall story line of Ebola in the US did not adhere to the guidelines that she voluntarily agreed to. Wouldn't she have guessed that it would caused public concern? Don't you think she has people at her disposal that would go out and pick up take-out dinner for her?
It's an odd feeling... I don't really want to be that concerned about it, but hearing about this from people around me makes me think a little bit more about it.
Flying to MN tomorrow... Should we wear masks?? Sheesh. The world we live in...
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
Seems my preconceptions are what should have been burned...
I AM MINE
A news report I just heard mentioned part of the problem is the (unneeded, unrecommended?) over-layering of protection...how it becomes difficult to both put them on and remove. Seems it'd be easy for some kind of contact to occur, no matter how unintentional.
As for the nurse, shame on her. Shame on anyone else who disregards protocol and common sense.