Actually I am perfectly fine. Yesterday I found out my Congressman voted against auditing the Fed and voted for arming rebels in Syria, so the level of stupidity that I am allowed to accept in one day was already used up. Then I log on and find another big government statist forum newbie wallowing in the drool left behind from some other blind big govt acolytes and I figured out I could no longer handle so much stupid in such a short time frame.
Excuse me for a while, I have letters to write to a Congressman and I must retain my senses and illustrate to that fool why his decisions are based in some far off fantasy world.
Admire you for taking a stand and communicating with your representative. More including me should do the same.
As often as I've done it, it's always a good reminder to keep writing to our Representatives. It seems a bit futile and I can get cynical about doing so sometimes, but I do it anyway.
Chadwick: I get what you're saying in that there are responsible gun owners- I know some, but how do we weed out the irresponsible ones? Unfortunately, that's not so easy. I'd like to see a good answer to that dilemma.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
you've always typed up here that you wanted to move because of the gunfire across the way from you. i once said, "maybe some are law officers & the like" you didn't like my answer much & held your ground.
you've always typed up here that you wanted to move because of the gunfire across the way from you. i once said, "maybe some are law officers & the like" you didn't like my answer much & held your ground.
I always find you answers compelling, Chadwick, even when I don't agree with them, because they are always real, never bullshit, always forthright. And you aren't afraid to challenge my thinking which is not a bad thing A-tall. :-)
As for the moving- still working on that one.
“The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
Is an amendment not a change made to the Constitution, proposed as a byproduct of necessities of the time? If this is the case, I don't see why proposing an amendment to an amendment should be seen as a violation of your rights any more than an amendment to the Constitution would be. Not to mention that there is already a precedent of repealing amendments (like prohibition) - plus, due to the strength of the lobbyists and the indoctrination of "right to bear arms" within American society, any Second Amendment changes would probably only be able to made as a revision, rather than a complete repeal.
The difference between all of the other factors you've mentioned is choice. I've yet to encounter a switch that could stop potential addicts from exposing themselves to heroin. There's also nothing I can think of that puts the dissemination of cancer back in human control (although we spend millions of dollars annually doing our best through research and development of new medical trials and procedures and encounter little to no oppositional friction). As far as car accidents - we certainly could use better training for new drivers, and any policies proposed to that effect I would read and likely support. I also say that since a car's primary objective is not to inflict pain, but rather to reduce the 'pain' and maximize the 'pleasure' in millions of daily lives (i.e. getting to work by foot would be fairly infeasible for many people), it is a necessary evil within society. I would also likely support more stringent requirements on training, profiling (yes, I said profiling) to check for mental stability, more thorough police checks, and I would hope that these requirements would ensure that the bar is set higher for who is able to obtain a firearm. This would probably lead to fewer firearm licenses being issued, as well as decrease the likelihood of firearm-related incidents. It's worth bearing in mind that none of us on here (I would hope) are murderous by nature - we all simply have different opinions on the best way to decrease the avoidable death toll.
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nasties don't give two shits what the constitution says. they have bad attitudes on the brain. therefore decent folks had better protect each other
Here's a nasty guy who obviously didn't give a shit what the constitution says. ...except that he was an ex-cop.... http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/index.html Gun owners are only 'responsible' up until the point they aren't anymore, by then it's too late. Or perhaps he was just a good guy with a gun protecting himself. Too bad the victim wasn't a better guy with a bigger gun to protect himself.
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
Drugs: regulated Things known to cause cancer: regulated Cars: regulated
Your right to bear arms does not mean unfettered access to a guns without regulation.
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
You aren't missing a thing....it's really frustrating for a lot of us
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it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
You aren't missing a thing....it's really frustrating for a lot of us
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
You aren't missing a thing....it's really frustrating for a lot of us
that's messed up...interesting though that the dog owner ran in to get his gun as well. Life in murikkka
it's like the gun nuts believe that the gun is their only solution. As the dog owner said in this article why couldn't the shooter have just not walked by their house? He had already expressed some concern about the dog barking. So instead of separating the dogs, maybe a non lethal kick or something, he takes the whole neighborhoods safety risk down several levels by shooting it? Just absolutely stupid.
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it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
You aren't missing a thing....it's really frustrating for a lot of us
that's messed up...interesting though that the dog owner ran in to get his gun as well. Life in murikkka
it's like the gun nuts believe that the gun is their only solution. As the dog owner said in this article why couldn't the shooter have just not walked by their house? He had already expressed some concern about the dog barking. So instead of separating the dogs, maybe a non lethal kick or something, he takes the whole neighborhoods safety risk down several levels by shooting it? Just absolutely stupid.
Does this have something to do with a person's right to stand his or her ground? On the whole, standing your ground seems like a very American concept to me. Why back down when you can pull out a gun and escalate the situation instead?
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
You aren't missing a thing....it's really frustrating for a lot of us
that's messed up...interesting though that the dog owner ran in to get his gun as well. Life in murikkka
it's like the gun nuts believe that the gun is their only solution. As the dog owner said in this article why couldn't the shooter have just not walked by their house? He had already expressed some concern about the dog barking. So instead of separating the dogs, maybe a non lethal kick or something, he takes the whole neighborhoods safety risk down several levels by shooting it? Just absolutely stupid.
Does this have something to do with a person's right to stand his or her ground? On the whole, standing your ground seems like a very American concept to me. Why back down when you can pull out a gun and escalate the situation instead?
Well duh...you caint have sumbuddy callin ya a yellerbelly
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
You aren't missing a thing....it's really frustrating for a lot of us
that's messed up...interesting though that the dog owner ran in to get his gun as well. Life in murikkka
it's like the gun nuts believe that the gun is their only solution. As the dog owner said in this article why couldn't the shooter have just not walked by their house? He had already expressed some concern about the dog barking. So instead of separating the dogs, maybe a non lethal kick or something, he takes the whole neighborhoods safety risk down several levels by shooting it? Just absolutely stupid.
Does this have something to do with a person's right to stand his or her ground? On the whole, standing your ground seems like a very American concept to me. Why back down when you can pull out a gun and escalate the situation instead?
Large percentage of Americans are perplexed by this as well.
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
You aren't missing a thing....it's really frustrating for a lot of us
that's messed up...interesting though that the dog owner ran in to get his gun as well. Life in murikkka
it's like the gun nuts believe that the gun is their only solution. As the dog owner said in this article why couldn't the shooter have just not walked by their house? He had already expressed some concern about the dog barking. So instead of separating the dogs, maybe a non lethal kick or something, he takes the whole neighborhoods safety risk down several levels by shooting it? Just absolutely stupid.
Does this have something to do with a person's right to stand his or her ground? On the whole, standing your ground seems like a very American concept to me. Why back down when you can pull out a gun and escalate the situation instead?
Well duh...you caint have sumbuddy callin ya a yellerbelly
What huh?!?!?!? You talkin bout me!?!?!?
Oh Callin not Callen.
Thought fer second you was challenging me and I was gonna respect the constitution and stand my ground mister.
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
You aren't missing a thing....it's really frustrating for a lot of us
that's messed up...interesting though that the dog owner ran in to get his gun as well. Life in murikkka
it's like the gun nuts believe that the gun is their only solution. As the dog owner said in this article why couldn't the shooter have just not walked by their house? He had already expressed some concern about the dog barking. So instead of separating the dogs, maybe a non lethal kick or something, he takes the whole neighborhoods safety risk down several levels by shooting it? Just absolutely stupid.
Does this have something to do with a person's right to stand his or her ground? On the whole, standing your ground seems like a very American concept to me. Why back down when you can pull out a gun and escalate the situation instead?
You don't need a gun to stand your ground. It is quite possible to do so without one. That you may be threatened by a hypothetical assailant with a gun in such a situation is in many ways an illustration of why we need increased gun control in this country.
That said...if standing one's ground is truly an American concept, that does not say much for the rest of the world.
Maybe it says that for much of the world, safety and life are more important than some misguided masculinity handed down from dime store wild west fables. Standing on one's principles and refusing to back down from a threat are not at all the same thing.
Chad,as a farm/country boy what age did you start shooting? It was a natural part of rural life right?Pellet,BB,22,shotgun progression as a southerner it is also part of my culture.I can't imagine not having a firearm around.Never felt it was taboo.
it's kind of scary that someone would want to control my gun owneship rights...but then again we have (whats loosely called) a first lady who wants to control the food your children eat at school %-( it's always ticked me off that a person can be given the athority to control different wants or needs of another.
Godfather.
The 3 word of the 2nd Amendment is 'Regulated'. What do you think was meant by that?
The entire reason we have food at school is for national defense. It was instituted because our children were malnourished and underfed. This makes it difficult to maintain and create an effective army. Today you have top military brass coming out and saying they can't find enough good recruits because children are lazy, fat, and out of shape. Makes sense that our school children should have a healthy diet in that context.
Also, the wife of the President is the First Lady. To suggest otherwise is childish and insulting.
childish and insulting to who ? some would say we have not had a president since Bush left office but I'm sure that's not your opinion and I would not want to offend you with my opinion...you know that communism kind of sounds like it borders in meaning to what your are so passionate about in this thread,anyway have a fine day. )
Godfather.
Insulting to you. It makes you look childish.
We've had one president since GWB was 'elected'. That's not an opinion, that's a fact. He was even re-elected! I've come to terms with the Supreme Court's mistake re: Bush, you should acknowledge Obama's 2 successful elections. Both of which were determined by a populous of the electoral college and popular vote. Handily I might add.
And no, I'm not advocating Communism. In fact, I consider myself to have a Libertarian streak more than anything else. However, government does have a place in our society. For example, I prefer Keynesian economics to the repeatedly dis-proven 'trickle-down' economics. Government is but one tool among many in our society's toolbox. You have to pick the right tool for the job. You don't use a saw to hammer in a nail.
If you're going to throw around words like 'opinion' and 'communism', you should probably know what they mean before you use them....
You talk about why you should own a gun, get to carry it with you everyday, because it makes you feel safer. But when you're faced with numbers and facts that prove otherwise, all of a sudden it's a matter of 'opinion' or 'differing views'. Bullshit. The fact of the matter is: more guns create more gun deaths. That is not a matter opinion, it's a fact.
I'm sorry for your anger but the fact that people kill each other everyday is no fault of a responsible gun owner...no bullshit really...it's true. and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree.
Godfather.
I'm not angry.
The fact that people kill each other everyday with guns is the fault of people who own guns.
"and if your going throw around your opinion maybe you should the reason I would disagree." This isn't even a sentence, much less a cohesive thought.
I'm at work and trying to hurry......Burnzie is that you ?
Godfather.
No, it's not...
then please tell me how your facts matter more than and my rights (2nd am.) ? all those gun death you keep whinning about are probably less than drug related deaths or cancer deaths or even car accident deaths but still you and others like you keep whinning about guns and gun related deaths....sorry but my "give a shit" cup has already reached it full level.
Godfather.
As a Canadian, I have no idea of what your 2nd Amendment actually means. It speaks of a well-regulated militia yet every time the gun debate comes up on the Train I hear people arguing against any form of regulation whatsoever. Honestly, is that part of the 2nd Amendment a misprint or am I actually missing something here?
You aren't missing a thing....it's really frustrating for a lot of us
that's messed up...interesting though that the dog owner ran in to get his gun as well. Life in murikkka
it's like the gun nuts believe that the gun is their only solution. As the dog owner said in this article why couldn't the shooter have just not walked by their house? He had already expressed some concern about the dog barking. So instead of separating the dogs, maybe a non lethal kick or something, he takes the whole neighborhoods safety risk down several levels by shooting it? Just absolutely stupid.
Does this have something to do with a person's right to stand his or her ground? On the whole, standing your ground seems like a very American concept to me. Why back down when you can pull out a gun and escalate the situation instead?
I Prefer when they call it the Castle Doctrine.Ones right to protect family,pets and home That simple.I don't get what is so American about that concept? Its human want to protect those you love.
Chad,as a farm/country boy what age did you start shooting? It was a natural part of rural life right?Pellet,BB,22,shotgun progression as a southerner it is also part of my culture.I can't imagine not having a firearm around.Never felt it was taboo.
I grew up with this same progression. When it got to handguns and advanced tactical rifles I started to view those who obsessed as fanatics. We can have guns and better gun control, Australia has shown it can be done, their model can be improved upon.
grandpa (dad's dad a WWII army vet who fought on pacific islands) & our dad (a navy veitnam vet up to his eyeballs in all sorts of bullshit) raised us three boys like you are describing: surrounded by farms, countryside & timber & outdoors living. it is a natural part of rural life, yes. we even had a outhouse in case the well went dry or were outback messin around & you'd just step in the outhouse all good & muddy vs' trackin mud & shit & trigs into the house
i'm the oldest & i was given a bb gun when i was in 1st grade & it was no toy. as in no shooting each other, no eyeballs being blown out, it was serious business or it'd be on. by 3rd grade i was given a 20 gauge single shot shotgun. it takes years to teach & to learn how to handle a gun safely. practice practice practice. & you good people out there do not for one second believe that grandpa & dad had me stompin around the woods & fields w/ a loaded shotgun when im in 3rd grade. that would be naive of someone to think that is how we rolled.
as we know already 87% - 90% of the folks on here are against guns in any way shape or form. well they most probably grew up & had a family that did not own guns or needed guns or what have you.
i like southern country folks. pretty real & they'll survive
guns weren't a big fucking deal to get erect over & make a mess in your jeans. they were around, lots of them & it was like having a coke or pepsi 8 pack of bottles sitting in a snow drift outside the door next to the woodpile. it was just that simple
grandpa (dad's dad a WWII army vet who fought on pacific islands) & our dad (a navy veitnam vet up to his eyeballs in all sorts of bullshit) raised us three boys like you are describing: surrounded by farms, countryside & timber & outdoors living. it is a natural part of rural life, yes. we even had a outhouse in case the well went dry or were outback messin around & you'd just step in the outhouse all good & muddy vs' trackin mud & shit & trigs into the house
i'm the oldest & i was given a bb gun when i was in 1st grade & it was no toy. as in no shooting each other, no eyeballs being blown out, it was serious business or it'd be on. by 3rd grade i was given a 20 gauge single shot shotgun. it takes years to teach & to learn how to handle a gun safely. practice practice practice. & you good people out there do not for one second believe that grandpa & dad had me stompin around the woods & fields w/ a loaded shotgun when im in 3rd grade. that would be naive of someone to think that is how we rolled.
as we know already 87% - 90% of the folks on here are against guns in any way shape or form. well they most probably grew up & had a family that did not own guns or needed guns or what have you.
i like southern country folks. pretty real & they'll survive
guns weren't a big fucking deal to get erect over & make a mess in your jeans. they were around, lots of them & it was like having a pepsi 8 pack of bottles sitting in a snow drift outside the door next to the woodpile. it was just that simple
I grew up in the country, in backcountry hills the likes of which Florida and Iowa can't compare to. I am OK with guns as far as the country narrative goes, but the country narrative doesn't include badass handguns and tactically appointed rifles. Those are the purview of the gun-obsessed, and are part of an entirely different equation. Nobody is trying to over-regulate tube loading 22's, bolt action thirty oughts, or pump action shotguns.
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Chadwick: I get what you're saying in that there are responsible gun owners- I know some, but how do we weed out the irresponsible ones? Unfortunately, that's not so easy. I'd like to see a good answer to that dilemma.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
As for the moving- still working on that one.
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
Not gorilla glue super glue. And I've purchased super glue that's already dried up. As it does.
Godfather.
The difference between all of the other factors you've mentioned is choice. I've yet to encounter a switch that could stop potential addicts from exposing themselves to heroin. There's also nothing I can think of that puts the dissemination of cancer back in human control (although we spend millions of dollars annually doing our best through research and development of new medical trials and procedures and encounter little to no oppositional friction). As far as car accidents - we certainly could use better training for new drivers, and any policies proposed to that effect I would read and likely support. I also say that since a car's primary objective is not to inflict pain, but rather to reduce the 'pain' and maximize the 'pleasure' in millions of daily lives (i.e. getting to work by foot would be fairly infeasible for many people), it is a necessary evil within society. I would also likely support more stringent requirements on training, profiling (yes, I said profiling) to check for mental stability, more thorough police checks, and I would hope that these requirements would ensure that the bar is set higher for who is able to obtain a firearm. This would probably lead to fewer firearm licenses being issued, as well as decrease the likelihood of firearm-related incidents. It's worth bearing in mind that none of us on here (I would hope) are murderous by nature - we all simply have different opinions on the best way to decrease the avoidable death toll.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
...except that he was an ex-cop....
http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/14/justice/florida-movie-theater-shooting/index.html
Gun owners are only 'responsible' up until the point they aren't anymore, by then it's too late. Or perhaps he was just a good guy with a gun protecting himself. Too bad the victim wasn't a better guy with a bigger gun to protect himself.
Things known to cause cancer: regulated
Cars: regulated
Your right to bear arms does not mean unfettered access to a guns without regulation.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
it's like the gun nuts believe that the gun is their only solution. As the dog owner said in this article why couldn't the shooter have just not walked by their house? He had already expressed some concern about the dog barking. So instead of separating the dogs, maybe a non lethal kick or something, he takes the whole neighborhoods safety risk down several levels by shooting it? Just absolutely stupid.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Oh Callin not Callen.
Thought fer second you was challenging me and I was gonna respect the constitution and stand my ground mister.
i'm pretty sure i am officially unable to type
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
That said...if standing one's ground is truly an American concept, that does not say much for the rest of the world.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Standing on one's principles and refusing to back down from a threat are not at all the same thing.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
i'm the oldest & i was given a bb gun when i was in 1st grade & it was no toy. as in no shooting each other, no eyeballs being blown out, it was serious business or it'd be on. by 3rd grade i was given a 20 gauge single shot shotgun. it takes years to teach & to learn how to handle a gun safely. practice practice practice. & you good people out there do not for one second believe that grandpa & dad had me stompin around the woods & fields w/ a loaded shotgun when im in 3rd grade. that would be naive of someone to think that is how we rolled.
as we know already 87% - 90% of the folks on here are against guns in any way shape or form. well they most probably grew up & had a family that did not own guns or needed guns or what have you.
i like southern country folks. pretty real & they'll survive
guns weren't a big fucking deal to get erect over & make a mess in your jeans. they were around, lots of them & it was like having a coke or pepsi 8 pack of bottles sitting in a snow drift outside the door next to the woodpile. it was just that simple
"Hear me, my chiefs!
I am tired; my heart is
sick and sad. From where
the sun stands I will fight
no more forever."
Chief Joseph - Nez Perce