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  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,598
    edited September 2014
    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    Not meant to be offensive.
    Just saying she will get a ton of votes.
    Plenty of middle class, wealthy white men working for the city, and the unions, who will vote for her. She will run away with that mayoral election.

    She will be the next mayor of Chicago.
    Post edited by SPEEDY MCCREADY on
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    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    That's actually how I read it too.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    Not meant to be offensive.
    Just saying she will get a ton of votes.
    Plenty of middle class, wealthy white men working for the city, and the unions, who will vote for her. She will run away with that mayoral election.

    She will be the next mayor of Chicago.

    I believe she will as well. I heard she's even trying to dump 100 lbs to appeal to voters. No, I'm not saying that is necessary, just stating she is serious.

    Rahm is not really well liked, it really is interesting.
  • rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    Not meant to be offensive.
    Just saying she will get a ton of votes.
    Plenty of middle class, wealthy white men working for the city, and the unions, who will vote for her. She will run away with that mayoral election.

    She will be the next mayor of Chicago.
    Well... if she is that popular and gets that many votes, then it sounds as if you guys will be getting a great mayor!
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    Perhaps her opponent wears a top hat and monocle and talks like Snidely Whiplash, or KittenMittens Romney. I know it wasn't MEANT to be offensive, but it galls nonetheless.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    Paid for my schooling class by class. Took many years and 30% paid by employer but no debt.

    All new graduates I know that have jobs have car payment, latest phones , nice apartments/condos, eat out all the time, yet bitch about not affording student loans.

    When one takes out a loan, you have to realize what the monthly payment will be and make it happen. Same shit as housing crises. Don't blame schools or lending institutions, blame yourself.

    Sucks that I will be paying for these loans as these people will get forgiven and then make a shitload of cash later in life.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • callencallen Posts: 6,388
    edited September 2014
    unsung said:

    Every time someone tries to tell me that homeschooling and Montessori schools are bad all I need is a CPS story to show how I'll keep my kids out of those government indoctrination camps.

    Now that could be another whole thread.
    10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,598
    edited September 2014
    PJ_Soul said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    That's actually how I read it too.
    PJ_Soul said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    That's actually how I read it too.
    Well let me be the 1st to tell you.
    You're fucking wrong.



    Post edited by SPEEDY MCCREADY on
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    I didn't read it that way.

    So it's racist to state that she will get votes based on demographics but not racist to say that Obama got 96% of the black vote.

    Yeah, ok.

  • rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    Not meant to be offensive.
    Just saying she will get a ton of votes.
    Plenty of middle class, wealthy white men working for the city, and the unions, who will vote for her. She will run away with that mayoral election.

    She will be the next mayor of Chicago.
    Well... if she is that popular and gets that many votes, then it sounds as if you guys will be getting a great mayor!
    She is popular, put popular does not necessarily equal a good mayor.
    But I would be surprised if Lewis were to lose an election to Rahm.
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • rgambs said:

    Perhaps her opponent wears a top hat and monocle and talks like Snidely Whiplash, or KittenMittens Romney. I know it wasn't MEANT to be offensive, but it galls nonetheless.

    Are you familiar with Chicago politics?
    Every single poll/prediction in regards to Rahm vs. Lewis....
    Every single article involving voters, is broken down into Black votes, Hispanic votes, Female votes, blah blah, blah.
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    Not meant to be offensive.
    Just saying she will get a ton of votes.
    Plenty of middle class, wealthy white men working for the city, and the unions, who will vote for her. She will run away with that mayoral election.

    She will be the next mayor of Chicago.
    Well... if she is that popular and gets that many votes, then it sounds as if you guys will be getting a great mayor!
    She is popular, put popular does not necessarily equal a good mayor.
    But I would be surprised if Lewis were to lose an election to Rahm.
    How do you know she won't be a good mayor? What indications are there that have you so apprehensive?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    Not meant to be offensive.
    Just saying she will get a ton of votes.
    Plenty of middle class, wealthy white men working for the city, and the unions, who will vote for her. She will run away with that mayoral election.

    She will be the next mayor of Chicago.
    Well... if she is that popular and gets that many votes, then it sounds as if you guys will be getting a great mayor!
    She is popular, put popular does not necessarily equal a good mayor.
    But I would be surprised if Lewis were to lose an election to Rahm.
    How do you know she won't be a good mayor? What indications are there that have you so apprehensive?
    She has never held a job in public office.
    So 1st off, I would be hesitant due to her lack of experience.
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,598
    edited September 2014
    Damn Im having fun with the edit button.

    Post edited by SPEEDY MCCREADY on
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    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • unsung said:

    I didn't read it that way.

    So it's racist to state that she will get votes based on demographics but not racist to say that Obama got 96% of the black vote.

    Yeah, ok.

    They stopped short of calling me racist.
    But they are foaming at the mouth and dying to call me racist.

    Which is nothing but PURE BULLSHIT!
    But let them call me racist.
    Then the REAL FUN here is going to start.

    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • SPEEDY MCCREADYSPEEDY MCCREADY Posts: 25,598
    edited September 2014
    unsung said:

    I didn't read it that way.

    So it's racist to state that she will get votes based on demographics but not racist to say that Obama got 96% of the black vote.

    Yeah, ok.

    And Karen Lewis/Obama is a great comparison in my eyes.
    People seem to like listening to Lewis talk. They may not be paying much attention to exactly what it is she is saying. But they like to hear her talk. The woman definitely has personality. 8 years ago people LOVED to hear Obama talk. All they needed to hear was HOPE and CHANGE. With those 2 words Obama won the presidential election.

    I see Karen Lewis entering the mayoral election, and doing just the same.
    She will beat the holy hell out of Rahm.
    Without even having to worry about the issues.
    It will be a personality thing, that wins her the election.
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • unsung said:

    I didn't read it that way.

    So it's racist to state that she will get votes based on demographics but not racist to say that Obama got 96% of the black vote.

    Yeah, ok.

    They stopped short of calling me racist.
    But they are foaming at the mouth and dying to call me racist.

    Which is nothing but PURE BULLSHIT!
    But let them call me racist.
    Then the REAL FUN here is going to start.

    There's no need to yell. We're all friends here.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • unsung said:

    I didn't read it that way.

    So it's racist to state that she will get votes based on demographics but not racist to say that Obama got 96% of the black vote.

    Yeah, ok.

    They stopped short of calling me racist.
    But they are foaming at the mouth and dying to call me racist.

    Which is nothing but PURE BULLSHIT!
    But let them call me racist.
    Then the REAL FUN here is going to start.

    There's no need to yell. We're all friends here.
    10 years on this board.
    One thing I am positive of.
    We are NOT all friends here.


    >:)
    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    Jeez...Sunday morning here. Too early to get the panties all twisted - at least, in that way.

    Ha!

    Anyway, callen's comment - When one takes out a loan, you have to realize what the monthly payment will be and make it happen. Same shit as housing crises. Don't blame schools or lending institutions, blame yourself makes a shitload of sense to me.
  • unsung said:

    I didn't read it that way.

    So it's racist to state that she will get votes based on demographics but not racist to say that Obama got 96% of the black vote.

    Yeah, ok.

    If its just a 1 on 1 election Lewis vs. Rahm? Lewis will run away with it.
    Now had Toni Preckwinkle joined the race? Then it would have been interesting. Very interesting.


    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • unsungunsung Posts: 9,487
    Those two would split the vote, Rahm would win.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    What is her stance on the violence and gang activity that runs rampant thru Chi town?
  • rr165892 said:

    What is her stance on the violence and gang activity that runs rampant thru Chi town?

    she is all for it!
    Ha

    Hiring more police.

    Take me piece by piece.....
    Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,946
    edited September 2014

    unsung said:

    I didn't read it that way.

    So it's racist to state that she will get votes based on demographics but not racist to say that Obama got 96% of the black vote.

    Yeah, ok.

    They stopped short of calling me racist.
    But they are foaming at the mouth and dying to call me racist.

    Which is nothing but PURE BULLSHIT!
    But let them call me racist.
    Then the REAL FUN here is going to start.

    Be careful with your comments. You are two comments away from having to self-report these comments to your employer and take a leave of absence to go to tolerance camp.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954

    PJ_Soul said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    That's actually how I read it too.
    PJ_Soul said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    That's going to be a bigger train wreck than Rahm.

    No pun intended

    Every union worker will vote for her.
    I would think most city employees will vote for her.
    Every low income worker will vote for her.
    95% of the Black vote will be hers.
    95% of the Hispanic vote will be hers.
    95% of the Female vote will be hers.

    Do you agree that she is the "wrong" choice like those you quoted? I can't tell from your posts if you are agreeing with the negative sentiments or just stating what you think will happen.
    IF you feel that way, your last post seems offensive to me. The implication is that middle class to wealthy white men are the only voters who vote intelligently.
    That's actually how I read it too.
    Well let me be the 1st to tell you.
    You're fucking wrong.



    Uuuhhh, O-fucking-Kay.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    hedonist said:

    Jeez...Sunday morning here. Too early to get the panties all twisted - at least, in that way.

    Ha!

    Anyway, callen's comment - When one takes out a loan, you have to realize what the monthly payment will be and make it happen. Same shit as housing crises. Don't blame schools or lending institutions, blame yourself makes a shitload of sense to me.

    It would if we were.talking about adults who knew any better. But student loans are actually marketed towards kids who have no idea how it works, and the lenders make a point of not informing them of the actual risks. On the contrary. They make a point of making the option seem appealing. Not every kid has a parent giving good advice.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,946
    edited September 2014
    I read books and wrote term papers on them when I was 20 in college. I wanted to be an accountant and I'm having to pay to write term papers. How the hell does writing a damn term paper for the 20th time help me be a better accountant? That is one of the problems with college. I shouldn't have picked a liberal arts school (that music theory class is really paying dividends right now).
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,954
    edited September 2014
    Oh totally. Unless you're talking about a game of jeopardy or trivial pursuit, or essay writing skills (when was the last time you were asked to write an essay in your career?), I didn't gain a single useful skill in university with a bachelor of arts (and that was even under a faculty of applied sciences... still useless!). I didn't learn anything useful until I took a 2 year non-credit professional certificate program after graduation. BUT i do have to admit that just having the piece of paper they gave me for all that tuition came in handy when job seeking. Of course, not once did a potential employer ask to see it or try to prove I even had it. Not one ever requested my transcripts. No employer of mine ever even thought of seeing proof of my degree (or my professional certificate for that matter). I literally could have skipped university and just lied on my resume and they would have been none the wiser. b-( I also could have just skated by with a C- GPA and no one ever would have known the difference. :|
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJ_Soul said:

    hedonist said:

    Jeez...Sunday morning here. Too early to get the panties all twisted - at least, in that way.

    Ha!

    Anyway, callen's comment - When one takes out a loan, you have to realize what the monthly payment will be and make it happen. Same shit as housing crises. Don't blame schools or lending institutions, blame yourself makes a shitload of sense to me.

    It would if we were.talking about adults who knew any better. But student loans are actually marketed towards kids who have no idea how it works, and the lenders make a point of not informing them of the actual risks. On the contrary. They make a point of making the option seem appealing. Not every kid has a parent giving good advice.
    Yes - and ties into one of my earlier posts on this.

    Maybe the problem, or part of it, is having them KNOW how it works. It's a step.

    Maybe there's no need to commit to a career at that age (kind of fucked up, when you think about it), but general education, skills, internship or entry-level work? Even traveling, if affordable...seeing how others earn their living and how they also enjoy life - eschew things we might see as necessities.
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