Sorry,i dont get..

callen

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

PJ_Soul said:

Last-12-Exit said:

It's not up to us to decide when it is or is not necessary to use their weapon. We are not the ones out there facing these situations. How easy is it to sit at our computers watching these videos and when we weren't facing that guy. Unless you were a cop, how can you say that it was unnecessary to use a gun. Most of us have never really faced a life threatening situation in our lives. Yet we want to tell the people who face them on a daily basis how to handle it.

So we should just leave everything up to cops and let them make their own decisions without questioning them? Doesn't that seem a little irresponsible and dangerous to you?

What you say here isn't congruent.

We have to let them make decisions in the line of fire; however, after the fact, we can review their performance to determine if they were malicious or not.

I don't read where he said we have to live with every decision cops make. I read that it is a hell of a lot tougher to play cop wearing the shoes and on the street than it is from behind your laptop screen.

But that's what we do now. We let them make decisions and then call them out when it seems their decisions were terrible. But you asked how anyone who isn't a cop can possibly judge their actions... We can (i.e. watch dogs, etc). That's my point. We, the public or its representatives, have to be the ones who judge whether or not their actions are okay or not. If we don't, then who should? Other cops?? I don't think THAT'S such a good idea.

I never asked how anyone who isn't a cop can possibly judge their actions. I said, it is a hell of a lot tougher to play cop wearing the shoes and on the street than it is from behind your laptop screen.

We can judge all we want, but let's at least acknowledge that we do so from the comfort and security of our homes... not in front of a crazed man menacingly approaching us with a knife in hand.

Crazed guy just needed a hug.

PJ_Soul said:

brianlux said:

Idris said:

Last-12-Exit said:

It's not up to us to decide when it is or is not necessary to use their weapon. We are not the ones out there facing these situations. How easy is it to sit at our computers watching these videos and when we weren't facing that guy. Unless you were a cop, how can you say that it was unnecessary to use a gun. Most of us have never really faced a life threatening situation in our lives. Yet we want to tell the people who face them on a daily basis how to handle it.

I've faced deadly situations before, I know what I'm talking about. Thanks for your conjecture.

(I was also stabbed once before, trust me, I get it)

@-) Shi-it! Sorry to deflect the conversation for a moment but, damn Idris, I'm sorry to hear that!

Me too!

And for the record, I think a lot of us have been in very very threatening situations. For me, it was a van full of men who pulled up and tried to drag me in and kidnap me (presumably to rape me or kill me or beat the shit out of me or something). I had to fight the one who jumped out off. Got him in the sternum with my keys hard enough for him to let go so I could run. Luckily he wasn't a big guy.

I also had a drunk aggressive dude pull out a revolver at a camp site and start waving it around and threatening people. He could have shot anyone who was there and not even remember it the next day.

I'm sure plenty of people have had stuff happen to them where they felt like their lives were I danger. So it's not that hard to understand the immediate stress that cops might be under... of course they have special training as well as a reasonable expectation to be in danger, which should make them much more prepared to properly deal with such situations.

They are humans JUST like you. Expecting them to be super human is easy way to distance one selves from their realities. Human suck, glad thee are cops to deal with them.