Sorry,i dont get..

i dont know how this called at usa..but here in Greece called murder and police officers would in jail charged for murder of 1 degree
i have no words..its shoking really

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-P54MZVxMU&bpctr=1408625713
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    OMG, wtf! Wow. Wow wow, how many fucken bullets does it take to take a human down? Evidently more then 10! Wow wow wow. America, got to love it.
  • Police are inherently above the law, here in the States...
  • London BridgeLondon Bridge Posts: 4,733
    We should have national steal some donuts and drinks day. This way we could rid the country of
    these low life fuckers all at once. Everyone in the video is wearing short sleeve shirts except the victim. I suppose it's easier to conceal things when wearing wearing a long sleeve hoodie.

    1. don't wear a hoodie on a summer day
    2. stop stealing
    3. get on the ground when confronted by police
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317

    i dont know how this called at usa..but here in Greece called murder and police officers would in jail charged for murder of 1 degree
    i have no words..its shoking really

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-P54MZVxMU&bpctr=1408625713

    Its called 'Protecting and serving' here in the States, The two stolen soda pops have been returned safely.

    Or was it a 'honeybun' and 1 soda pop?
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 42,047
    gimme posted this video in #DONTSHOOT as well. Incredibly horrible scene. They cuffed the guy after he was shot dead. WTF is wrong with these "people"?
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  • BLACK35BLACK35 Posts: 22,754
    that's is fucked up!!!
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  • the cops said drop the knife how many times?? and he didn't do it, not only did he not drop it, he started approaching the cops with knife in hand. good clean shoot, way to go cops, one less worthless asshole roaming around out there.
    if you think what I believe is stupid, bizarre, ridiculous or outrageous.....it's ok, I think I had a brain tumor when I wrote that.
  • IdrisIdris Posts: 2,317
    Are we certain he had a knife?
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,956

    the cops said drop the knife how many times?? and he didn't do it, not only did he not drop it, he started approaching the cops with knife in hand. good clean shoot, way to go cops, one less worthless asshole roaming around out there.

    A taser would have worked.
    Most people who act like that that mentally ill. Sometimes even mentally disabled. Just use a taser and they are alive and the cops are safe, and not murderers. So simple.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    edited August 2014
    brianlux said:

    gimme posted this video in #DONTSHOOT as well. Incredibly horrible scene. They cuffed the guy after he was shot dead. WTF is wrong with these "people"?

    who took his pulse? in the video i see him moving around on the ground. sad as it is he sure wasn't dead yet, he was dying. norm actually posted the exact video something like 4 hrs before gimmie... just sayin.
    Post edited by chadwick on
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    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

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  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • chadwickchadwick Posts: 21,157
    edited August 2014
    in a crazy ass riot overflowing city that has been batshit nuts for over one week, why act the fool after stealing two soft drinks & then rush the cops (knife in hand?) shouting like a fool?
    it is sad, i'd rather see the cops bear spray his silly ass but that isn't the case
    Post edited by chadwick on
    for poetry through the ceiling. ISBN: 1 4241 8840 7

    "Hear me, my chiefs!
    I am tired; my heart is
    sick and sad. From where
    the sun stands I will fight
    no more forever."

    Chief Joseph - Nez Perce
  • dimitrispearljamdimitrispearljam Posts: 139,720
    edited August 2014
    this called murder..all the rest are bullshit..
    if 2 officers,with training dont know how to unarm,or stop someone wtih out shoot to kill,they need
    to get retirment..this called murder at the rest of the world,atleast..

    1 month ago Greek police arrested number 1 terrorist of the country..he put bombs,he rob banks,attack goverment building,his involved at killing,at kidnapping etc..
    they chasing him at the center of the city..he start shooting to police and civilians
    3 people,a police officer and 2 civilians got hit
    ..30-45 minutes running,and shooting to everyone.. all this at the center of Athens..
    police??they shot just once..to his arm so drop the gun they put him down...
    they said he even had granade on him
    now is in jail.after surgery and will be there for the next 150 years..

    how many times they shot this poor gut there?seriously..
    one word..

    Murder
    Post edited by dimitrispearljam on
    "...Dimitri...He talks to me...'.."The Ghost of Greece..".
    "..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
    “..That came up on the Pillow Case...This is for the Greek, With Our Apologies.....”
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,956
    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,956

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    I got to say, love the way u pick and choose who's ok to kill or not.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,956
    badbrains said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    I got to say, love the way u pick and choose who's ok to kill or not.
    What do you mean? Who did I say it was okay to kill?
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    It's not up to the police officers being threatened to decide if the guy is suicidal or not while being charged at with a deadly weapon.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    It's not up to the police officers being threatened to decide if the guy is suicidal or not while being charged at with a deadly weapon.
    Why not? If the guy said "Shoot me already" and was bringing a knife to a gunfight I think it's pretty safe to say he is suicidal. If a cop can't figure that out, they have no business being a cop.
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,844
    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    It's not up to the police officers being threatened to decide if the guy is suicidal or not while being charged at with a deadly weapon.
    Why not? If the guy said "Shoot me already" and was bringing a knife to a gunfight I think it's pretty safe to say he is suicidal. If a cop can't figure that out, they have no business being a cop.
    It's real easy to say all this after the fact. In the heat of the moment when someone is coming at you with a knife, how are you supposed to not defend yourself? Should the cop try to wrestle the knife away from the guy and risk getting themselves stabbed and/or killed?

    And this wasn't a "gunfight". The cops were responding to a call and then someone decided to not listen to their command and come at them with a knife.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,956

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    It's not up to the police officers being threatened to decide if the guy is suicidal or not while being charged at with a deadly weapon.
    Why not? If the guy said "Shoot me already" and was bringing a knife to a gunfight I think it's pretty safe to say he is suicidal. If a cop can't figure that out, they have no business being a cop.
    It's real easy to say all this after the fact. In the heat of the moment when someone is coming at you with a knife, how are you supposed to not defend yourself? Should the cop try to wrestle the knife away from the guy and risk getting themselves stabbed and/or killed?

    And this wasn't a "gunfight". The cops were responding to a call and then someone decided to not listen to their command and come at them with a knife.
    I've read that they shot him 17 seconds after arriving. That tells me that they didn't bother thinking at all. IMO it is part of their job to think. To assess a situation. And also to use their training and use a taser when someone is displaying threatening behaviour unless they are pointing a gun at them or are at the very least close enough to harm them. I love how some people don't think cops are required to use their brains and their training while on the job.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Indifference71Indifference71 Posts: 14,844
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    It's not up to the police officers being threatened to decide if the guy is suicidal or not while being charged at with a deadly weapon.
    Why not? If the guy said "Shoot me already" and was bringing a knife to a gunfight I think it's pretty safe to say he is suicidal. If a cop can't figure that out, they have no business being a cop.
    It's real easy to say all this after the fact. In the heat of the moment when someone is coming at you with a knife, how are you supposed to not defend yourself? Should the cop try to wrestle the knife away from the guy and risk getting themselves stabbed and/or killed?

    And this wasn't a "gunfight". The cops were responding to a call and then someone decided to not listen to their command and come at them with a knife.
    I've read that they shot him 17 seconds after arriving. That tells me that they didn't bother thinking at all. IMO it is part of their job to think. To assess a situation. And also to use their training and use a taser when someone is displaying threatening behaviour unless they are pointing a gun at them or are at the very least close enough to harm them. I love how some people don't think cops are required to use their brains and their training while on the job.
    Did you watch the video? They pulled up and the guy approached them with a knife and didn't drop the weapon like he was instructed. What else is there to assess in this situation?

    Pretty sure part of a cops training is to discharge your weapon when you feel threatened and someone is coming at you with a weapon. What happened is very unfortunate, but I'm not putting this on the cops for not trying to wrestle down a guy who was coming at them with a knife.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,956

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    It's not up to the police officers being threatened to decide if the guy is suicidal or not while being charged at with a deadly weapon.
    Why not? If the guy said "Shoot me already" and was bringing a knife to a gunfight I think it's pretty safe to say he is suicidal. If a cop can't figure that out, they have no business being a cop.
    It's real easy to say all this after the fact. In the heat of the moment when someone is coming at you with a knife, how are you supposed to not defend yourself? Should the cop try to wrestle the knife away from the guy and risk getting themselves stabbed and/or killed?

    And this wasn't a "gunfight". The cops were responding to a call and then someone decided to not listen to their command and come at them with a knife.
    I've read that they shot him 17 seconds after arriving. That tells me that they didn't bother thinking at all. IMO it is part of their job to think. To assess a situation. And also to use their training and use a taser when someone is displaying threatening behaviour unless they are pointing a gun at them or are at the very least close enough to harm them. I love how some people don't think cops are required to use their brains and their training while on the job.
    Did you watch the video? They pulled up and the guy approached them with a knife and didn't drop the weapon like he was instructed. What else is there to assess in this situation?

    Pretty sure part of a cops training is to discharge your weapon when you feel threatened and someone is coming at you with a weapon. What happened is very unfortunate, but I'm not putting this on the cops for not trying to wrestle down a guy who was coming at them with a knife.
    I don't want to see a man murdered, so didn't watch it, but I read all the posts about what it specifically shows. If police are trained to shoot instead of using a taser when possible, then this discussion should be about how incompetent the training is. No one said anything about the cops wrestling anyone. The use of non-lethal weapons whenever possible should be a given. And it IS possible when a dude is standing there with a knife. It doesn't take any longer for them to pull out a taser and shoot him with that. But they chose the lethal weapon instead. I think that's the wrong thing to do. If the man had had a gun I wouldn't be saying this.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Last-12-ExitLast-12-Exit Posts: 8,661
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    It's not up to the police officers being threatened to decide if the guy is suicidal or not while being charged at with a deadly weapon.
    Why not? If the guy said "Shoot me already" and was bringing a knife to a gunfight I think it's pretty safe to say he is suicidal. If a cop can't figure that out, they have no business being a cop.
    It's real easy to say all this after the fact. In the heat of the moment when someone is coming at you with a knife, how are you supposed to not defend yourself? Should the cop try to wrestle the knife away from the guy and risk getting themselves stabbed and/or killed?

    And this wasn't a "gunfight". The cops were responding to a call and then someone decided to not listen to their command and come at them with a knife.
    I've read that they shot him 17 seconds after arriving. That tells me that they didn't bother thinking at all. IMO it is part of their job to think. To assess a situation. And also to use their training and use a taser when someone is displaying threatening behaviour unless they are pointing a gun at them or are at the very least close enough to harm them. I love how some people don't think cops are required to use their brains and their training while on the job.
    They didn't have time to assess anything. They were immediately presented with a man charging at them yielding a knife. They did what they are trained to do.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,956

    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    It's not up to the police officers being threatened to decide if the guy is suicidal or not while being charged at with a deadly weapon.
    Why not? If the guy said "Shoot me already" and was bringing a knife to a gunfight I think it's pretty safe to say he is suicidal. If a cop can't figure that out, they have no business being a cop.
    It's real easy to say all this after the fact. In the heat of the moment when someone is coming at you with a knife, how are you supposed to not defend yourself? Should the cop try to wrestle the knife away from the guy and risk getting themselves stabbed and/or killed?

    And this wasn't a "gunfight". The cops were responding to a call and then someone decided to not listen to their command and come at them with a knife.
    I've read that they shot him 17 seconds after arriving. That tells me that they didn't bother thinking at all. IMO it is part of their job to think. To assess a situation. And also to use their training and use a taser when someone is displaying threatening behaviour unless they are pointing a gun at them or are at the very least close enough to harm them. I love how some people don't think cops are required to use their brains and their training while on the job.
    They didn't have time to assess anything. They were immediately presented with a man charging at them yielding a knife. They did what they are trained to do.
    They had time to pull their guns.... which tells me they had time to pull a taser.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    PJ_Soul said:

    dignin said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    chadwick said:

    I would call this suicide by cop. This guy knew what was about to happen.

    thank you. this is what i am thinking too
    If that's the case, it makes even less sense. If the guy had been standing on a roof the cops would have done everything in their power to stop him from killing himself.
    If he was on a rooftop, he wouldn't be threatening the cops with a knife. Bottom line is that this ass hole was charging at the police with a weapon.
    That changes nothing. A suicidal person should be helped, not killed. Tasers, pepper spray.... deadly force was not in any way necessary here.
    It's not up to the police officers being threatened to decide if the guy is suicidal or not while being charged at with a deadly weapon.
    Why not? If the guy said "Shoot me already" and was bringing a knife to a gunfight I think it's pretty safe to say he is suicidal. If a cop can't figure that out, they have no business being a cop.
    It's real easy to say all this after the fact. In the heat of the moment when someone is coming at you with a knife, how are you supposed to not defend yourself? Should the cop try to wrestle the knife away from the guy and risk getting themselves stabbed and/or killed?

    And this wasn't a "gunfight". The cops were responding to a call and then someone decided to not listen to their command and come at them with a knife.
    I've read that they shot him 17 seconds after arriving. That tells me that they didn't bother thinking at all. IMO it is part of their job to think. To assess a situation. And also to use their training and use a taser when someone is displaying threatening behaviour unless they are pointing a gun at them or are at the very least close enough to harm them. I love how some people don't think cops are required to use their brains and their training while on the job.
    They could have chosen any number of options. Taken a step back and given themselves more time. Gotten back in their vehicle. Anything but shooting the guy multiple times.

    Seems to me that they escalated the situation by drawing their guns out immediately. If you watch closely he didn't even pull his knife out until they came out guns drawn.
  • wall232wall232 Posts: 1,346
    A man yelling at cops to shoot him and to kill him, who was ordered to stop, take his hands out his pocket and to put the knife down. He ignored all orders and kept walking towards the officers. Seems like he wanted to die, this isn't a situation where you can stop and try and talk him down from a ledge; this was a situation where he was armed and walking towards the officers. From the video he seems to have gotten pretty close to one of the officers, within a matter of 5-6 feet maybe? He could have easily charged at that officer and been on top of him very quickly. The cops did what they had to do to make sure that they made it home to their families; this is not murder, its suicide by cop.

    One of the cops did take a step back, and how can you expect officers to just get back in their car after being called? The man escalated this all by stealing and then waiting there for the officers to arrive. In his sick mine he got what he wanted.
    NYPJ
  • pdalowskypdalowsky Posts: 15,074
    Dimi

    this called murder..all the rest are bullshit..
    if 2 officers,with training dont know how to unarm,or stop someone wtih out shoot to kill,they need
    to get retirment..this called murder at the rest of the world,atleast..

    1 month ago Greek police arrested number 1 terrorist of the country..he put bombs,he rob banks,attack goverment building,his involved at killing,at kidnapping etc..
    they chasing him at the center of the city..he start shooting to police and civilians
    3 people,a police officer and 2 civilians got hit
    ..30-45 minutes running,and shooting to everyone.. all this at the center of Athens..
    police??they shot just once..to his arm so drop the gun they put him down...
    they said he even had granade on him
    now is in jail.after surgery and will be there for the next 150 years..

    how many times they shot this poor gut there?seriously..
    one word..

    Murder

    Dude I get your point I really do but your example here strikes me as bizarre. The guy was a clear danger to the public - injuring 5 people - he deserved nothing more than taking down and staying down.

    Just my opinion but now you guys can feed him forever and keep him nice and warm at your cost. The video here isn't as clear cut of course.

    But I will say the British police screwed up with that Islamic terrorist who beheaded the soldier, I'm a peaceful guy who hates violence and guns bug that verminous piece of shif should have been granted his 'jihad'. Glory or not. He's even making a mockery of UHF system here now by resisting orders in the prison and claiming compensation for injuries...... Whilst continuing his hate crap.... Worthless scum and he got a bullet in the arm...

    Seems the situations between that and this should have been flipped but the police are always wrong in someone's eyes.
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