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  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    This article is for Gimmie: hasbara at it's finest:

    http://mondoweiss.net/2014/08/hasbara-spewing-semitism.html

    http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2004/1/12/antiwar-group-exposes-undercover-activist-an/
  • rafie
    rafie Posts: 2,160
    Has anyone else seen the reports that hamas has executed around 20 people in Gaza as suspected collaborators (with Israel)? Only have a link in hebrew, but it has a video and some pictures, so here you go:

    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4562115,00.html
    Still can't believe I met Mike Mccready at the Guggenheim and got a pic with him!!!!!

    2010: 9/7/10 - Bilbao
    2012: 26-27/6/12 - Amsterdam ~~ 29/6/12 - Werchter ~~ 4-5/7/12 - Berlin
    2014: 25/6/14 - Vienna ~~ 26/6/14 - Berlin
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    rafie said:

    Has anyone else seen the reports that hamas has executed around 20 people in Gaza as suspected collaborators (with Israel)? Only have a link in hebrew, but it has a video and some pictures, so here you go:

    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4562115,00.html

    Ya I read that earlier. Can u blame them? I mean, let's be real here. I'll even throw in a great quote Israel has been using since this invasion has occurred, "what would you do?"
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    Anyone see this article about the Palestinian teen that was forced to help idf look for tunnels?

    http://972mag.com/palestinian-teen-i-was-used-as-a-human-shield-in-gaza/95800/
  • rafie
    rafie Posts: 2,160
    badbrains said:

    rafie said:

    Has anyone else seen the reports that hamas has executed around 20 people in Gaza as suspected collaborators (with Israel)? Only have a link in hebrew, but it has a video and some pictures, so here you go:

    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4562115,00.html

    Ya I read that earlier. Can u blame them? I mean, let's be real here. I'll even throw in a great quote Israel has been using since this invasion has occurred, "what would you do?"
    I just wonder if hamas will add their names to the list of people killed by israeli attacks...
    Still can't believe I met Mike Mccready at the Guggenheim and got a pic with him!!!!!

    2010: 9/7/10 - Bilbao
    2012: 26-27/6/12 - Amsterdam ~~ 29/6/12 - Werchter ~~ 4-5/7/12 - Berlin
    2014: 25/6/14 - Vienna ~~ 26/6/14 - Berlin
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    rafie said:

    badbrains said:

    rafie said:

    Has anyone else seen the reports that hamas has executed around 20 people in Gaza as suspected collaborators (with Israel)? Only have a link in hebrew, but it has a video and some pictures, so here you go:

    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4562115,00.html

    Ya I read that earlier. Can u blame them? I mean, let's be real here. I'll even throw in a great quote Israel has been using since this invasion has occurred, "what would you do?"
    I just wonder if hamas will add their names to the list of people killed by israeli attacks...
    Nah, I think they'll be more then happy to take credit for that. That's something I think they'll brag about and use for their gains.
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    rafie said:

    badbrains said:

    rafie said:

    Has anyone else seen the reports that hamas has executed around 20 people in Gaza as suspected collaborators (with Israel)? Only have a link in hebrew, but it has a video and some pictures, so here you go:

    http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4562115,00.html

    Ya I read that earlier. Can u blame them? I mean, let's be real here. I'll even throw in a great quote Israel has been using since this invasion has occurred, "what would you do?"
    I just wonder if hamas will add their names to the list of people killed by israeli attacks...
    Why? Because the 20 dead collaborators would make a big difference to the 2000+ Palestinians - mostly civilians - murdered by your racist lunatic state?

    Or is your question an attempt to pretend that the numbers of dead Palestinians has been exaggerated?

  • rafie
    rafie Posts: 2,160
    A four year old boy was killed earlier today when a mortar shell fired from Gaza hit his house. Yesterday a rocket fell on a pre-school killing the father of one of the children (he literally used himself as a human shield to protect his son). More have been severely injured.

    Can the Hamas apologists here please stop spouting their idiotic sound bytes of: "Hamas does not target civilians" and "the rockets that hamas is firing are nothing more than fireworks".

    And before you start spouting numbers of how many have been killed in Gaza the last 2 days, please remember that it was Hamas that broke the week long cease fire on Tuesday.
    Still can't believe I met Mike Mccready at the Guggenheim and got a pic with him!!!!!

    2010: 9/7/10 - Bilbao
    2012: 26-27/6/12 - Amsterdam ~~ 29/6/12 - Werchter ~~ 4-5/7/12 - Berlin
    2014: 25/6/14 - Vienna ~~ 26/6/14 - Berlin
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    edited August 2014
    Extremely graphic image deleted by Admin. You can link to extremely graphic images so people who don't want to click on the link can choose to do that. That way, people who want to post images can do so and other people can choose to click on the link.
    Post edited by Kat on
  • dancinacrossthewater
    dancinacrossthewater Posts: 800
    These pics are awful man. I understand why you're posting them, but it's horrible just looking at them. Take care of yourself, eh? Vicarious trauma is a real thing
  • dancinacrossthewater
    dancinacrossthewater Posts: 800
    That one really shook me up
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    dancinacrossthewater said:

    That one really shook me up

    Imagine how the mother or father feel? The brother? The sister? Maybe the grandfather or grandmother? Uncle? Niece? Cousin? You can't EVER heal those scars. Someone posted about a 4 year old kid in Israel getting killed today, 1 kid. Yet hundreds and hundreds of gaza children like the one I posted have been killed. Why? Is that ok? Because they're Palestinians? Aren't they humans too? Put an Israel kid where that kid was and he'd end up looking just like him. What does that say to future Palestinians? When and if they grow up,'what do they tell their young?
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    dancinacrossthewater said:

    That one really shook me up

    Imagine how the mother or father feel? The brother? The sister? Maybe the grandfather or grandmother? Uncle? Niece? Cousin? You can't EVER heal those scars. Someone posted about a 4 year old kid in Israel getting killed today, 1 kid. Yet hundreds and hundreds of gaza children like the one I posted have been killed. Why? Is that ok? Because they're Palestinians? Aren't they humans too? Put an Israel kid where that kid was and he'd end up looking just like him. What does that say to future Palestinians? When and if they grow up,'what do they tell their young?
  • dancinacrossthewater
    dancinacrossthewater Posts: 800
    It's not ok man. It's really not. There's nothing I can say to make anything like that any better.

    But when your leaders carry out public executions in an open square, there's no healing happening.

    Did you know that many of the first Israelis viewed people who got killed in holocaust as pussies? Like 'how could they let that happen to them' etc etc.

    You replace one kind of awful violence with another, you don't stop the trauma and abuse.

    I dunno what the answers are sometimes.
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    dancinacrossthewater said:

    It's not ok man. It's really not. There's nothing I can say to make anything like that any better.

    But when your leaders carry out public executions in an open square, there's no healing happening.

    Did you know that many of the first Israelis viewed people who got killed in holocaust as pussies? Like 'how could they let that happen to them' etc etc.

    You replace one kind of awful violence with another, you don't stop the trauma and abuse.

    I dunno what the answers are sometimes.

    My leaders??? Hamas ISNT my leaders. I live in America. And am NOT Palestinian. I just choose to speak up for people who can barely have the right to speak for themselves.
  • dancinacrossthewater
    dancinacrossthewater Posts: 800
    No I didn't mean you. I meant the leaders of Palestine.
  • dancinacrossthewater
    dancinacrossthewater Posts: 800
    The current leaders, at least
  • dancinacrossthewater
    dancinacrossthewater Posts: 800
    edited August 2014
    It's crazy, cuz every act like that, every kid cut in half by a bomb, causes pain and hate that last generations, never mind the awful actual loss of the kid himself.

    It's the worst.
    Post edited by dancinacrossthewater on
  • badbrains
    badbrains Posts: 10,255
    dancinacrossthewater said:

    It's crazy, cuz every act like that, every kid cut in half by a bomb, causes pain and hate that last generations, never mind the awful actual loss of the kid himself.

    It's the worst.

    100% agree with you
  • Byrnzie
    Byrnzie Posts: 21,037
    rafie said:

    A four year old boy was killed earlier today when a mortar shell fired from Gaza hit his house. Yesterday a rocket fell on a pre-school killing the father of one of the children (he literally used himself as a human shield to protect his son). More have been severely injured.

    Can the Hamas apologists here please stop spouting their idiotic sound bytes of: "Hamas does not target civilians" and "the rockets that hamas is firing are nothing more than fireworks".

    And before you start spouting numbers of how many have been killed in Gaza the last 2 days, please remember that it was Hamas that broke the week long cease fire on Tuesday.

    So that's one Israeli child killed, and 469 Palestinian children killed. And your condemnation is reserved for Hamas? Interesting.

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