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    Murder charge for Ohio deputy in Casey Goodson Jr. shooting
    By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS
    13 mins ago

    COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The Ohio sheriff's deputy who fatally shot Casey Goodson Jr. in the back five times was charged Thursday with murder in an encounter that led to racial justice protests, yet is still largely unexplained and involved no body camera or dash cam footage.

    The fatal shooting of Goodson, who was Black, took place in Columbus on Dec. 4 while Jason Meade, a white 17-year member of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office, was finishing an unsuccessful search for a fugitive as part of his work for a U.S. Marshals Service task force.

    Goodson was not the subject of the fugitive search. U.S. Marshal Peter Tobin initially said Meade, who has since retired, confronted Goodson after Goodson drove by and waved a gun at the deputy, but he later withdrew those comments, saying they’d been based on “insufficient information.”

    Tobin also said Meade was “not performing a mission” for the marshals at the time of the shooting.

    Relatives say Goodson was opening the door to his grandmother’s house at the time he was shot. Officials said that a gun was recovered from the scene but have not provided further details.

    The family has said Goodson had a sandwich, not a gun, in his hand. But even if Goodson had been carrying a gun, the family has reiterated, he had a license to do so. The family planned a news conference Thursday.

    The Franklin County coroner said in March that Goodson had been shot five times in the back.

    A judge scheduled an initial hearing Friday for Meade. A message was left seeking comment from Meade's attorney, who has previously said the coroner's report has no bearing on what actually happened that day.

    The case remains under criminal investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office with help from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.

    Although the shooting did not involve Columbus police, it came at a time of heightened tension over previous shootings of Black people by officers in Ohio’s capital, a situation made worse less than three weeks later when a white Columbus police officer shot and killed 47-year-old Andre Hill as he emerged from a garage holding a cellphone.

    That officer, Adam Coy, who was subsequently fired, has pleaded not guilty to murder and is scheduled for trial next year.

    Large protests followed Goodson’s shooting, with people shouting “Justice for Casey” as they blocked downtown streets.

    Meade retired July 2 on disability. The deputy had been on administrative leave from the sheriff’s office since the shooting.

    Sheriff Dallas Baldwin had previously said that the autopsy did not "provide all of the facts needed,” and that he will wait until the criminal investigation is complete before pursuing any disciplinary action against Meade.

    Baldwin said Thursday that he has asked his staff to review the investigation when possible, to see what the agency can learn.

    “This office has a professional obligation to do everything in its power to ensure the community and our deputies are kept safe,” he said in a statement. “As I’ve said from the very beginning, I pray for everyone involved in this tragedy.”

    In June, Franklin County Prosecutor Gary Tyack appointed two outside prosecutors to investigate, since the county prosecutor’s office serves as legal counsel to the sheriff’s office and anticipates having to defend the county and the law enforcement agency in this case.


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    Murder charge for Ohio deputy in Casey Goodson Jr. shooting
    By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS
    13 mins ago

    COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The Ohio sheriff's deputy who fatally shot Casey Goodson Jr. in the back five times was charged Thursday with murder in an encounter that led to racial justice protests, yet is still largely unexplained and involved no body camera or dash cam footage.

    The fatal shooting of Goodson, who was Black, took place in Columbus on Dec. 4 while Jason Meade, a white 17-year member of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office, was finishing an unsuccessful search for a fugitive as part of his work for a U.S. Marshals Service task force.

    Goodson was not the subject of the fugitive search. U.S. Marshal Peter Tobin initially said Meade, who has since retired, confronted Goodson after Goodson drove by and waved a gun at the deputy, but he later withdrew those comments, saying they’d been based on “insufficient information.”

    Tobin also said Meade was “not performing a mission” for the marshals at the time of the shooting.

    Relatives say Goodson was opening the door to his grandmother’s house at the time he was shot. Officials said that a gun was recovered from the scene but have not provided further details.

    The family has said Goodson had a sandwich, not a gun, in his hand. But even if Goodson had been carrying a gun, the family has reiterated, he had a license to do so. The family planned a news conference Thursday.

    The Franklin County coroner said in March that Goodson had been shot five times in the back.

    A judge scheduled an initial hearing Friday for Meade. A message was left seeking comment from Meade's attorney, who has previously said the coroner's report has no bearing on what actually happened that day.

    The case remains under criminal investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office with help from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.

    Although the shooting did not involve Columbus police, it came at a time of heightened tension over previous shootings of Black people by officers in Ohio’s capital, a situation made worse less than three weeks later when a white Columbus police officer shot and killed 47-year-old Andre Hill as he emerged from a garage holding a cellphone.

    That officer, Adam Coy, who was subsequently fired, has pleaded not guilty to murder and is scheduled for trial next year.

    Large protests followed Goodson’s shooting, with people shouting “Justice for Casey” as they blocked downtown streets.

    Meade retired July 2 on disability. The deputy had been on administrative leave from the sheriff’s office since the shooting.

    Sheriff Dallas Baldwin had previously said that the autopsy did not "provide all of the facts needed,” and that he will wait until the criminal investigation is complete before pursuing any disciplinary action against Meade.

    Baldwin said Thursday that he has asked his staff to review the investigation when possible, to see what the agency can learn.

    “This office has a professional obligation to do everything in its power to ensure the community and our deputies are kept safe,” he said in a statement. “As I’ve said from the very beginning, I pray for everyone involved in this tragedy.”

    In June, Franklin County Prosecutor Gary Tyack appointed two outside prosecutors to investigate, since the county prosecutor’s office serves as legal counsel to the sheriff’s office and anticipates having to defend the county and the law enforcement agency in this case.


    17 year olds are hired as Marshalls for fugitive of justice task forces? Are you kidding me? Sounds more like hired for a slave patrol to me.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    mickeyrat said:



    Murder charge for Ohio deputy in Casey Goodson Jr. shooting
    By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS
    13 mins ago

    COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The Ohio sheriff's deputy who fatally shot Casey Goodson Jr. in the back five times was charged Thursday with murder in an encounter that led to racial justice protests, yet is still largely unexplained and involved no body camera or dash cam footage.

    The fatal shooting of Goodson, who was Black, took place in Columbus on Dec. 4 while Jason Meade, a white 17-year member of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office, was finishing an unsuccessful search for a fugitive as part of his work for a U.S. Marshals Service task force.

    Goodson was not the subject of the fugitive search. U.S. Marshal Peter Tobin initially said Meade, who has since retired, confronted Goodson after Goodson drove by and waved a gun at the deputy, but he later withdrew those comments, saying they’d been based on “insufficient information.”

    Tobin also said Meade was “not performing a mission” for the marshals at the time of the shooting.

    Relatives say Goodson was opening the door to his grandmother’s house at the time he was shot. Officials said that a gun was recovered from the scene but have not provided further details.

    The family has said Goodson had a sandwich, not a gun, in his hand. But even if Goodson had been carrying a gun, the family has reiterated, he had a license to do so. The family planned a news conference Thursday.

    The Franklin County coroner said in March that Goodson had been shot five times in the back.

    A judge scheduled an initial hearing Friday for Meade. A message was left seeking comment from Meade's attorney, who has previously said the coroner's report has no bearing on what actually happened that day.

    The case remains under criminal investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office with help from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.

    Although the shooting did not involve Columbus police, it came at a time of heightened tension over previous shootings of Black people by officers in Ohio’s capital, a situation made worse less than three weeks later when a white Columbus police officer shot and killed 47-year-old Andre Hill as he emerged from a garage holding a cellphone.

    That officer, Adam Coy, who was subsequently fired, has pleaded not guilty to murder and is scheduled for trial next year.

    Large protests followed Goodson’s shooting, with people shouting “Justice for Casey” as they blocked downtown streets.

    Meade retired July 2 on disability. The deputy had been on administrative leave from the sheriff’s office since the shooting.

    Sheriff Dallas Baldwin had previously said that the autopsy did not "provide all of the facts needed,” and that he will wait until the criminal investigation is complete before pursuing any disciplinary action against Meade.

    Baldwin said Thursday that he has asked his staff to review the investigation when possible, to see what the agency can learn.

    “This office has a professional obligation to do everything in its power to ensure the community and our deputies are kept safe,” he said in a statement. “As I’ve said from the very beginning, I pray for everyone involved in this tragedy.”

    In June, Franklin County Prosecutor Gary Tyack appointed two outside prosecutors to investigate, since the county prosecutor’s office serves as legal counsel to the sheriff’s office and anticipates having to defend the county and the law enforcement agency in this case.


    17 year olds are hired as Marshalls for fugitive of justice task forces? Are you kidding me? Sounds more like hired for a slave patrol to me.

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  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:



    Murder charge for Ohio deputy in Casey Goodson Jr. shooting
    By ANDREW WELSH-HUGGINS
    13 mins ago

    COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — The Ohio sheriff's deputy who fatally shot Casey Goodson Jr. in the back five times was charged Thursday with murder in an encounter that led to racial justice protests, yet is still largely unexplained and involved no body camera or dash cam footage.

    The fatal shooting of Goodson, who was Black, took place in Columbus on Dec. 4 while Jason Meade, a white 17-year member of the Franklin County Sheriff’s Office, was finishing an unsuccessful search for a fugitive as part of his work for a U.S. Marshals Service task force.

    Goodson was not the subject of the fugitive search. U.S. Marshal Peter Tobin initially said Meade, who has since retired, confronted Goodson after Goodson drove by and waved a gun at the deputy, but he later withdrew those comments, saying they’d been based on “insufficient information.”

    Tobin also said Meade was “not performing a mission” for the marshals at the time of the shooting.

    Relatives say Goodson was opening the door to his grandmother’s house at the time he was shot. Officials said that a gun was recovered from the scene but have not provided further details.

    The family has said Goodson had a sandwich, not a gun, in his hand. But even if Goodson had been carrying a gun, the family has reiterated, he had a license to do so. The family planned a news conference Thursday.

    The Franklin County coroner said in March that Goodson had been shot five times in the back.

    A judge scheduled an initial hearing Friday for Meade. A message was left seeking comment from Meade's attorney, who has previously said the coroner's report has no bearing on what actually happened that day.

    The case remains under criminal investigation by the U.S. attorney’s office with help from the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division.

    Although the shooting did not involve Columbus police, it came at a time of heightened tension over previous shootings of Black people by officers in Ohio’s capital, a situation made worse less than three weeks later when a white Columbus police officer shot and killed 47-year-old Andre Hill as he emerged from a garage holding a cellphone.

    That officer, Adam Coy, who was subsequently fired, has pleaded not guilty to murder and is scheduled for trial next year.

    Large protests followed Goodson’s shooting, with people shouting “Justice for Casey” as they blocked downtown streets.

    Meade retired July 2 on disability. The deputy had been on administrative leave from the sheriff’s office since the shooting.

    Sheriff Dallas Baldwin had previously said that the autopsy did not "provide all of the facts needed,” and that he will wait until the criminal investigation is complete before pursuing any disciplinary action against Meade.

    Baldwin said Thursday that he has asked his staff to review the investigation when possible, to see what the agency can learn.

    “This office has a professional obligation to do everything in its power to ensure the community and our deputies are kept safe,” he said in a statement. “As I’ve said from the very beginning, I pray for everyone involved in this tragedy.”

    In June, Franklin County Prosecutor Gary Tyack appointed two outside prosecutors to investigate, since the county prosecutor’s office serves as legal counsel to the sheriff’s office and anticipates having to defend the county and the law enforcement agency in this case.


    17 year olds are hired as Marshalls for fugitive of justice task forces? Are you kidding me? Sounds more like hired for a slave patrol to me.

    rif. 17 yr veteran
    Ah, “17 year ‘member’” was replaced by “old” in my travel and age addled brain. RIF is certainly that. Is one considered a veteran after 17 years? Me thinks In that line of work, no amount of years of service make you a “veteran.”
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  • I wonder if they would have been more “professional” if they were responding to a store on Rodeo Drive?

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    This was an execution and the poor guy was holding a box cutter…and wtf were the 2 shotgun shots at the end for…
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  • This was an execution and the poor guy was holding a box cutter…and wtf were the 2 shotgun shots at the end for…

    “I’ve got it!” Cameron said. “He’s a cop!” The form the T-1000 would take for most of the movie was a Los Angeles police officer. This solved the storytelling dilemma Winston had raised and also gave Cameron an opportunity to underline a central theme in both of the Terminator movies – how people, especially those in violent jobs, like soldiers and cops, can become barbarized. “The  films are not really about the human race getting killed of by future machines. They’re about us losing touch with our own humanity and becoming machines, which allows us to kill and brutalize each other,” he says. “Cops think all non-cops as less than they are, stupid, weak, and evil. They dehumanize the people they are sworn to protect and desensitize themselves in order to do that job.”

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  • mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I didn't know all that.  This is why people were pissed then.  I only saw the video.

    Minneapolis seems to be having policing problems...
  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
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    DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I didn't know all that.  This is why people were pissed then.  I only saw the video.

    Minneapolis seems to be having policing problems...

    yeah, the link I provided was an article.

    gonna guess it wasnt opened and read.
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  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.
    I was curious to why they were sleeping w a loaded gun?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.

    for complying with an apparent legal(at the time) search warrant?
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  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.
    I was curious to why they were sleeping w a loaded gun?
    Why does anyone sleep with a loaded gun?
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  • mickeyrat said:
    DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.

    for complying with an apparent legal(at the time) search warrant?
    Was there a legal search warrant served to the building manager/real estate company? Or did they just flash their badges and say, "let us in?"
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  • DewieCox said:
    mickeyrat said:
    Did you watch the video?  The guy was sleeping w a gun and was drawing it when they woke him.
    Illegally executing a no knock warrant, shooting a person not on the warrant, legal gun owner…..
    I wonder how the cops got a key to his unit? If its from the apartment complex building manager or the realty office, they've got some 'splaining to do and better have deep pockets.
    I was curious to why they were sleeping w a loaded gun?
    Why does anyone sleep with a loaded gun?
    To protect themselves from Ze Germans?
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    This was an execution and the poor guy was holding a box cutter…and wtf were the 2 shotgun shots at the end for…
    He pulled the box cutter out to hold it like a gun. I wouldn’t call him a poor guy, it was suicide by cop.
    The cop who fired those last 2 shots was immediately fired. Don’t think you could charge him with murder or manslaughter , the guy already had 20 bullets in him.
  • This was an execution and the poor guy was holding a box cutter…and wtf were the 2 shotgun shots at the end for…
    What sucks about things like this is the guy may have wanted to be Death By Cops (DBC).  People want to go out in a trailblaze of gunfire.

    I don't even know if they have a statistic on that?
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    suicide by cop.
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    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,592
    mickeyrat said:
    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.

    death by are very very different circumstances
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  • mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.

    death by are very very different circumstances
    Yes, I knew what it was but mentioned it wrong.

    Suicide By Cop.
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,367
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.

    death by are very very different circumstances
    Yes, I knew what it was but mentioned it wrong.

    Suicide By Cop.
    Exactly what I thought. The only abuse would be those last 2 shots. And that cop was immediately fired.
  • mace1229 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    suicide by cop.
    That's the term.

    death by are very very different circumstances
    Yes, I knew what it was but mentioned it wrong.

    Suicide By Cop.
    Exactly what I thought. The only abuse would be those last 2 shots. And that cop was immediately fired.
    Abuse was how many cops were there actually.  There was like 25 cops there.  What the hell happened that they were all there w guns drawn?
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    What would stop them from putting a few on watch duty? Maybe help them tell the difference between a gun and a box knife. Need training/situational adjustments that can mentally slow these exchanges. 
  • DewieCox said:
    What would stop them from putting a few on watch duty? Maybe help them tell the difference between a gun and a box knife. Need training/situational adjustments that can mentally slow these exchanges. 
    You can train all you want for that but it happens so quick it would be too late to tell if it was a gun.

    I do question the person whom was shot though.  What did you think was going to happen?

    Cops all get a pass except the dummy who fired the last 2 shots.

    I am still bothered by the amount of cops present though.
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    I dunno, I think you give a couple of them binoculars and not have cops standing out in the wide open you can at least buy seconds which would be an eternity in this situation. 
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