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this guy was beaten with batons, choked and tackled and arrested for committing the crime of walking the wrong way!0 -
*-:) I really want to thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I have a much better understanding of the situation. You work in a very stressful and dangerous job. Not exactly a war zone, but some days I bet it is pretty close. I am sure that to survive emotionally after seeing all that police officers have that most people don't like to think about, it becomes necessary to compartmentalize some of those situations. The "dude (that) looked like Swiss cheese" and not "getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger" helps you to survive. I am sure that it is an attitude that is adopted by many officers in the field. But that attitude is felt by the people in those "ghetto" communities, and makes them fear that the police view them as bad guys by virtue of where they live. Maybe it is not so much "hatred of police" as fear. Maybe they run away from cops because they fear what might happen to them if they don't. Fear and feelings of persecution will drive people to do a lot of things. Something has got to give. Peace muskydan. Be safemuskydan said:
In that situation if the guy is still on scene The police's first priority is to eliminate the threat so the EMT guys can get to the victims. I have been a part of a similar situation where dude killed his best friend and wife after he caught them doing whoppi. He barracaded himself in the apartment. Meanwhile we can hear his wife and friend screaming in agony as they were bleeding out. EMT's we're going nowhere near that situation until dude was elimated. It took us about 15 minutes to gear up and take the apartment. It was quite the gun battle and dude looked like Swiss cheese when it was all said and done. Unfortionately the wife and friend had already expired by the time we got to them. I personally have rendered first aid numerous times, but it all depends on the situation. I ain't getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger who got lit up on the corner selling dope Where he ain't supposed 2 be. That's about 90 % of my towns shootings .
But to answer you question, NO, you are not supposed to touch anyone. Wait for ambulance
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Being the police in Chicago is a completely different animal that anywhere else if you Ask me. Lots of reasons, but the biggest if is that the storefront rev-runs and community activists pretty much run the city. They always deliver the votes for the infamous Democratic MACHINE . In the last 5 years I have found that the people in the ghetto no longer fear the police. They challenge and resist us all the time. I have been in more physical altercations and injured in the past years 5 years 3x as much as my first 10. When the bad guys no longer have a fear the Police society is in big trouble. Police Departments Will always fudge the numberous giving the General public a false sence of Hope that crime is down and there is nothing to fear. Chicago is the biggest violator of fudging numbers since the CPD is run not by the Department, but city hall and our egotistical Mayor Sir Rahm Emmanuel brought to you by the Emperor himself Barry Obama.oceaninmyeyes said:
*-:) I really want to thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I have a much better understanding of the situation. You work in a very stressful and dangerous job. Not exactly a war zone, but some days I bet it is pretty close. I am sure that to survive emotionally after seeing all that police officers have that most people don't like to think about, it becomes necessary to compartmentalize some of those situations. The "dude (that) looked like Swiss cheese" and not "getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger" helps you to survive. I am sure that it is an attitude that is adopted by many officers in the field. But that attitude is felt by the people in those "ghetto" communities, and makes them fear that the police view them as bad guys by virtue of where they live. Maybe it is not so much "hatred of police" as fear. Maybe they run away from cops because they fear what might happen to them if they don't. Fear and feelings of persecution will drive people to do a lot of things. Something has got to give. Peace muskydan. Be safemuskydan said:
In that situation if the guy is still on scene The police's first priority is to eliminate the threat so the EMT guys can get to the victims. I have been a part of a similar situation where dude killed his best friend and wife after he caught them doing whoppi. He barracaded himself in the apartment. Meanwhile we can hear his wife and friend screaming in agony as they were bleeding out. EMT's we're going nowhere near that situation until dude was elimated. It took us about 15 minutes to gear up and take the apartment. It was quite the gun battle and dude looked like Swiss cheese when it was all said and done. Unfortionately the wife and friend had already expired by the time we got to them. I personally have rendered first aid numerous times, but it all depends on the situation. I ain't getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger who got lit up on the corner selling dope Where he ain't supposed 2 be. That's about 90 % of my towns shootings .
But to answer you question, NO, you are not supposed to touch anyone. Wait for ambulance
My old partner is a homocide Det. And he told me the other day we are exactly at the number of homicides as we had last year at this time, but what you don't know is the dept is holding onto 43 " death investigations" that are obvious homicides but city hall does not want to have a 18% increase in homicides from last year when the rest of the country are having 20-30% drops in homicides.... Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors...look up Comp Stat if you wana learn how police deptments fudge numbers.
So The good people that are forced to live in the ghetto hate it what they all know, and that' s the Police Hands are tied. I talk to these salt of the earth oldtimers all the time when I get my coffee and they can't believe we can just pull up on a corner anymore and push off or lock up the countless dope dealing gangbanging shitbirds..It's those oldtimers and their families I am concerned for, the rest well they run the show now, we just pick up the pieces and call for an ambulance.....0 -
I knew it wouldn't take long for you to start spewing your hate for OBAMA & democratic party .....muskydan said:
Being the police in Chicago is a completely different animal that anywhere else if you Ask me. Lots of reasons, but the biggest if is that the storefront rev-runs and community activists pretty much run the city. They always deliver the votes for the infamous Democratic MACHINE . In the last 5 years I have found that the people in the ghetto no longer fear the police. They challenge and resist us all the time. I have been in more physical altercations and injured in the past years 5 years 3x as much as my first 10. When the bad guys no longer have a fear the Police society is in big trouble. Police Departments Will always fudge the numberous giving the General public a false sence of Hope that crime is down and there is nothing to fear. Chicago is the biggest violator of fudging numbers since the CPD is run not by the Department, but city hall and our egotistical Mayor Sir Rahm Emmanuel brought to you by the Emperor himself Barry Obama.oceaninmyeyes said:
*-:) I really want to thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I have a much better understanding of the situation. You work in a very stressful and dangerous job. Not exactly a war zone, but some days I bet it is pretty close. I am sure that to survive emotionally after seeing all that police officers have that most people don't like to think about, it becomes necessary to compartmentalize some of those situations. The "dude (that) looked like Swiss cheese" and not "getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger" helps you to survive. I am sure that it is an attitude that is adopted by many officers in the field. But that attitude is felt by the people in those "ghetto" communities, and makes them fear that the police view them as bad guys by virtue of where they live. Maybe it is not so much "hatred of police" as fear. Maybe they run away from cops because they fear what might happen to them if they don't. Fear and feelings of persecution will drive people to do a lot of things. Something has got to give. Peace muskydan. Be safemuskydan said:
In that situation if the guy is still on scene The police's first priority is to eliminate the threat so the EMT guys can get to the victims. I have been a part of a similar situation where dude killed his best friend and wife after he caught them doing whoppi. He barracaded himself in the apartment. Meanwhile we can hear his wife and friend screaming in agony as they were bleeding out. EMT's we're going nowhere near that situation until dude was elimated. It took us about 15 minutes to gear up and take the apartment. It was quite the gun battle and dude looked like Swiss cheese when it was all said and done. Unfortionately the wife and friend had already expired by the time we got to them. I personally have rendered first aid numerous times, but it all depends on the situation. I ain't getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger who got lit up on the corner selling dope Where he ain't supposed 2 be. That's about 90 % of my towns shootings .
But to answer you question, NO, you are not supposed to touch anyone. Wait for ambulance
My old partner is a homocide Det. And he told me the other day we are exactly at the number of homicides as we had last year at this time, but what you don't know is the dept is holding onto 43 " death investigations" that are obvious homicides but city hall does not want to have a 18% increase in homicides from last year when the rest of the country are having 20-30% drops in homicides.... Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors...look up Comp Stat if you wana learn how police deptments fudge numbers.
So The good people that are forced to live in the ghetto hate it what they all know, and that' s the Police Hands are tied. I talk to these salt of the earth oldtimers all the time when I get my coffee and they can't believe we can just pull up on a corner anymore and push off or lock up the countless dope dealing gangbanging shitbirds..It's those oldtimers and their families I am concerned for, the rest well they run the show now, we just pick up the pieces and call for an ambulance.....jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Hate is a pretty strong word….perhaps you can use that word for Rhamrina, but I defiantly don't hate Barry. He is a real nice man and his wife a an absolute Doll who always has loved the police. I have met Obama numerous times over the years as a congressmen and doing Presidential security details and he is alway responsive to the Police shaking our hands and giving us hi-fives and fist bumps. I just feel he has been a colossal failure as a President and we can just leave it at that.josevolution said:
I knew it wouldn't take long for you to start spewing your hate for OBAMA & democratic party .....muskydan said:
Being the police in Chicago is a completely different animal that anywhere else if you Ask me. Lots of reasons, but the biggest if is that the storefront rev-runs and community activists pretty much run the city. They always deliver the votes for the infamous Democratic MACHINE . In the last 5 years I have found that the people in the ghetto no longer fear the police. They challenge and resist us all the time. I have been in more physical altercations and injured in the past years 5 years 3x as much as my first 10. When the bad guys no longer have a fear the Police society is in big trouble. Police Departments Will always fudge the numberous giving the General public a false sence of Hope that crime is down and there is nothing to fear. Chicago is the biggest violator of fudging numbers since the CPD is run not by the Department, but city hall and our egotistical Mayor Sir Rahm Emmanuel brought to you by the Emperor himself Barry Obama.oceaninmyeyes said:
*-:) I really want to thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I have a much better understanding of the situation. You work in a very stressful and dangerous job. Not exactly a war zone, but some days I bet it is pretty close. I am sure that to survive emotionally after seeing all that police officers have that most people don't like to think about, it becomes necessary to compartmentalize some of those situations. The "dude (that) looked like Swiss cheese" and not "getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger" helps you to survive. I am sure that it is an attitude that is adopted by many officers in the field. But that attitude is felt by the people in those "ghetto" communities, and makes them fear that the police view them as bad guys by virtue of where they live. Maybe it is not so much "hatred of police" as fear. Maybe they run away from cops because they fear what might happen to them if they don't. Fear and feelings of persecution will drive people to do a lot of things. Something has got to give. Peace muskydan. Be safemuskydan said:
In that situation if the guy is still on scene The police's first priority is to eliminate the threat so the EMT guys can get to the victims. I have been a part of a similar situation where dude killed his best friend and wife after he caught them doing whoppi. He barracaded himself in the apartment. Meanwhile we can hear his wife and friend screaming in agony as they were bleeding out. EMT's we're going nowhere near that situation until dude was elimated. It took us about 15 minutes to gear up and take the apartment. It was quite the gun battle and dude looked like Swiss cheese when it was all said and done. Unfortionately the wife and friend had already expired by the time we got to them. I personally have rendered first aid numerous times, but it all depends on the situation. I ain't getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger who got lit up on the corner selling dope Where he ain't supposed 2 be. That's about 90 % of my towns shootings .
But to answer you question, NO, you are not supposed to touch anyone. Wait for ambulance
My old partner is a homocide Det. And he told me the other day we are exactly at the number of homicides as we had last year at this time, but what you don't know is the dept is holding onto 43 " death investigations" that are obvious homicides but city hall does not want to have a 18% increase in homicides from last year when the rest of the country are having 20-30% drops in homicides.... Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors...look up Comp Stat if you wana learn how police deptments fudge numbers.
So The good people that are forced to live in the ghetto hate it what they all know, and that' s the Police Hands are tied. I talk to these salt of the earth oldtimers all the time when I get my coffee and they can't believe we can just pull up on a corner anymore and push off or lock up the countless dope dealing gangbanging shitbirds..It's those oldtimers and their families I am concerned for, the rest well they run the show now, we just pick up the pieces and call for an ambulance.....0 -
Appropriate lawful force
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Shot in the chest by Cleveland police – then handcuffed and fined $100
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Dear Muskydan, if what you just wrote here is true, i hope you are actually doing something about it and not just posting on this website.muskydan said:
Being the police in Chicago is a completely different animal that anywhere else if you Ask me. Lots of reasons, but the biggest if is that the storefront rev-runs and community activists pretty much run the city. They always deliver the votes for the infamous Democratic MACHINE . In the last 5 years I have found that the people in the ghetto no longer fear the police. They challenge and resist us all the time. I have been in more physical altercations and injured in the past years 5 years 3x as much as my first 10. When the bad guys no longer have a fear the Police society is in big trouble. Police Departments Will always fudge the numberous giving the General public a false sence of Hope that crime is down and there is nothing to fear. Chicago is the biggest violator of fudging numbers since the CPD is run not by the Department, but city hall and our egotistical Mayor Sir Rahm Emmanuel brought to you by the Emperor himself Barry Obama.oceaninmyeyes said:
*-:) I really want to thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I have a much better understanding of the situation. You work in a very stressful and dangerous job. Not exactly a war zone, but some days I bet it is pretty close. I am sure that to survive emotionally after seeing all that police officers have that most people don't like to think about, it becomes necessary to compartmentalize some of those situations. The "dude (that) looked like Swiss cheese" and not "getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger" helps you to survive. I am sure that it is an attitude that is adopted by many officers in the field. But that attitude is felt by the people in those "ghetto" communities, and makes them fear that the police view them as bad guys by virtue of where they live. Maybe it is not so much "hatred of police" as fear. Maybe they run away from cops because they fear what might happen to them if they don't. Fear and feelings of persecution will drive people to do a lot of things. Something has got to give. Peace muskydan. Be safemuskydan said:
In that situation if the guy is still on scene The police's first priority is to eliminate the threat so the EMT guys can get to the victims. I have been a part of a similar situation where dude killed his best friend and wife after he caught them doing whoppi. He barracaded himself in the apartment. Meanwhile we can hear his wife and friend screaming in agony as they were bleeding out. EMT's we're going nowhere near that situation until dude was elimated. It took us about 15 minutes to gear up and take the apartment. It was quite the gun battle and dude looked like Swiss cheese when it was all said and done. Unfortionately the wife and friend had already expired by the time we got to them. I personally have rendered first aid numerous times, but it all depends on the situation. I ain't getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger who got lit up on the corner selling dope Where he ain't supposed 2 be. That's about 90 % of my towns shootings .
But to answer you question, NO, you are not supposed to touch anyone. Wait for ambulance
My old partner is a homocide Det. And he told me the other day we are exactly at the number of homicides as we had last year at this time, but what you don't know is the dept is holding onto 43 " death investigations" that are obvious homicides but city hall does not want to have a 18% increase in homicides from last year when the rest of the country are having 20-30% drops in homicides.... Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors...look up Comp Stat if you wana learn how police deptments fudge numbers.
So The good people that are forced to live in the ghetto hate it what they all know, and that' s the Police Hands are tied. I talk to these salt of the earth oldtimers all the time when I get my coffee and they can't believe we can just pull up on a corner anymore and push off or lock up the countless dope dealing gangbanging shitbirds..It's those oldtimers and their families I am concerned for, the rest well they run the show now, we just pick up the pieces and call for an ambulance.....0 -
you can paint yourself any rosy color you may like just the fact that you address Obama as barry is telling enough ....muskydan said:
Hate is a pretty strong word….perhaps you can use that word for Rhamrina, but I defiantly don't hate Barry. He is a real nice man and his wife a an absolute Doll who always has loved the police. I have met Obama numerous times over the years as a congressmen and doing Presidential security details and he is alway responsive to the Police shaking our hands and giving us hi-fives and fist bumps. I just feel he has been a colossal failure as a President and we can just leave it at that.josevolution said:
I knew it wouldn't take long for you to start spewing your hate for OBAMA & democratic party .....muskydan said:
Being the police in Chicago is a completely different animal that anywhere else if you Ask me. Lots of reasons, but the biggest if is that the storefront rev-runs and community activists pretty much run the city. They always deliver the votes for the infamous Democratic MACHINE . In the last 5 years I have found that the people in the ghetto no longer fear the police. They challenge and resist us all the time. I have been in more physical altercations and injured in the past years 5 years 3x as much as my first 10. When the bad guys no longer have a fear the Police society is in big trouble. Police Departments Will always fudge the numberous giving the General public a false sence of Hope that crime is down and there is nothing to fear. Chicago is the biggest violator of fudging numbers since the CPD is run not by the Department, but city hall and our egotistical Mayor Sir Rahm Emmanuel brought to you by the Emperor himself Barry Obama.oceaninmyeyes said:
*-:) I really want to thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I have a much better understanding of the situation. You work in a very stressful and dangerous job. Not exactly a war zone, but some days I bet it is pretty close. I am sure that to survive emotionally after seeing all that police officers have that most people don't like to think about, it becomes necessary to compartmentalize some of those situations. The "dude (that) looked like Swiss cheese" and not "getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger" helps you to survive. I am sure that it is an attitude that is adopted by many officers in the field. But that attitude is felt by the people in those "ghetto" communities, and makes them fear that the police view them as bad guys by virtue of where they live. Maybe it is not so much "hatred of police" as fear. Maybe they run away from cops because they fear what might happen to them if they don't. Fear and feelings of persecution will drive people to do a lot of things. Something has got to give. Peace muskydan. Be safemuskydan said:
In that situation if the guy is still on scene The police's first priority is to eliminate the threat so the EMT guys can get to the victims. I have been a part of a similar situation where dude killed his best friend and wife after he caught them doing whoppi. He barracaded himself in the apartment. Meanwhile we can hear his wife and friend screaming in agony as they were bleeding out. EMT's we're going nowhere near that situation until dude was elimated. It took us about 15 minutes to gear up and take the apartment. It was quite the gun battle and dude looked like Swiss cheese when it was all said and done. Unfortionately the wife and friend had already expired by the time we got to them. I personally have rendered first aid numerous times, but it all depends on the situation. I ain't getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger who got lit up on the corner selling dope Where he ain't supposed 2 be. That's about 90 % of my towns shootings .
But to answer you question, NO, you are not supposed to touch anyone. Wait for ambulance
My old partner is a homocide Det. And he told me the other day we are exactly at the number of homicides as we had last year at this time, but what you don't know is the dept is holding onto 43 " death investigations" that are obvious homicides but city hall does not want to have a 18% increase in homicides from last year when the rest of the country are having 20-30% drops in homicides.... Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors...look up Comp Stat if you wana learn how police deptments fudge numbers.
So The good people that are forced to live in the ghetto hate it what they all know, and that' s the Police Hands are tied. I talk to these salt of the earth oldtimers all the time when I get my coffee and they can't believe we can just pull up on a corner anymore and push off or lock up the countless dope dealing gangbanging shitbirds..It's those oldtimers and their families I am concerned for, the rest well they run the show now, we just pick up the pieces and call for an ambulance.....jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Why? Barry isn't an acceptable form of Barack?0
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Oh ok so Barry is Barack i didn't know that ....Last-12-Exit said:Why? Barry isn't an acceptable form of Barack?
jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Would love to be the "REAL" Police again. But I like having a job and don't want to go to prison. Its been open season on Police for years now and with all this media driven, racebait loving nonsense currently happening, you would have to be out of your mind to be a proactive Police Officer. As i have said numerous times, Society is going to get the kind of Police its demanding….you just better be careful what you wish for.fife said:<
Dear Muskydan, if what you just wrote here is true, i hope you are actually doing something about it and not just posting on this website.muskydan said:
Being the police in Chicago is a completely different animal that anywhere else if you Ask me. Lots of reasons, but the biggest if is that the storefront rev-runs and community activists pretty much run the city. They always deliver the votes for the infamous Democratic MACHINE . In the last 5 years I have found that the people in the ghetto no longer fear the police. They challenge and resist us all the time. I have been in more physical altercations and injured in the past years 5 years 3x as much as my first 10. When the bad guys no longer have a fear the Police society is in big trouble. Police Departments Will always fudge the numberous giving the General public a false sence of Hope that crime is down and there is nothing to fear. Chicago is the biggest violator of fudging numbers since the CPD is run not by the Department, but city hall and our egotistical Mayor Sir Rahm Emmanuel brought to you by the Emperor himself Barry Obama.oceaninmyeyes said:
*-:) I really want to thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I have a much better understanding of the situation. You work in a very stressful and dangerous job. Not exactly a war zone, but some days I bet it is pretty close. I am sure that to survive emotionally after seeing all that police officers have that most people don't like to think about, it becomes necessary to compartmentalize some of those situations. The "dude (that) looked like Swiss cheese" and not "getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger" helps you to survive. I am sure that it is an attitude that is adopted by many officers in the field. But that attitude is felt by the people in those "ghetto" communities, and makes them fear that the police view them as bad guys by virtue of where they live. Maybe it is not so much "hatred of police" as fear. Maybe they run away from cops because they fear what might happen to them if they don't. Fear and feelings of persecution will drive people to do a lot of things. Something has got to give. Peace muskydan. Be safemuskydan said:
In that situation if the guy is still on scene The police's first priority is to eliminate the threat so the EMT guys can get to the victims. I have been a part of a similar situation where dude killed his best friend and wife after he caught them doing whoppi. He barracaded himself in the apartment. Meanwhile we can hear his wife and friend screaming in agony as they were bleeding out. EMT's we're going nowhere near that situation until dude was elimated. It took us about 15 minutes to gear up and take the apartment. It was quite the gun battle and dude looked like Swiss cheese when it was all said and done. Unfortionately the wife and friend had already expired by the time we got to them. I personally have rendered first aid numerous times, but it all depends on the situation. I ain't getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger who got lit up on the corner selling dope Where he ain't supposed 2 be. That's about 90 % of my towns shootings .
But to answer you question, NO, you are not supposed to touch anyone. Wait for ambulance
My old partner is a homocide Det. And he told me the other day we are exactly at the number of homicides as we had last year at this time, but what you don't know is the dept is holding onto 43 " death investigations" that are obvious homicides but city hall does not want to have a 18% increase in homicides from last year when the rest of the country are having 20-30% drops in homicides.... Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors...look up Comp Stat if you wana learn how police deptments fudge numbers.
So The good people that are forced to live in the ghetto hate it what they all know, and that' s the Police Hands are tied. I talk to these salt of the earth oldtimers all the time when I get my coffee and they can't believe we can just pull up on a corner anymore and push off or lock up the countless dope dealing gangbanging shitbirds..It's those oldtimers and their families I am concerned for, the rest well they run the show now, we just pick up the pieces and call for an ambulance.....0 -
How else could you take that? Is Barry a predominantly black guy name?josevolution said:
Oh ok so Barry is Barack i didn't know that ....Last-12-Exit said:Why? Barry isn't an acceptable form of Barack?
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What ? Muskyguy was calling Obama Barry i found that to be condensending just like most of hi's postings ....why call him barry instead of Barack ...Last-12-Exit said:
How else could you take that? Is Barry a predominantly black guy name?josevolution said:
Oh ok so Barry is Barack i didn't know that ....Last-12-Exit said:Why? Barry isn't an acceptable form of Barack?
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Truth and reality hurts….I feel ya. Now go get your info from a media outlet like Msnbc or CNN. It appears you like the K-bud…pull a tube and lighten up.josevolution said:
What ? Muskyguy was calling Obama Barry i found that to be condensending just like most of hi's postings ....Last-12-Exit said:
How else could you take that? Is Barry a predominantly black guy name?josevolution said:
Oh ok so Barry is Barack i didn't know that ....Last-12-Exit said:Why? Barry isn't an acceptable form of Barack?
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I had written something about this yesterday... then thought better of it and deleted it- not sure how you (and some others) might take it.muskydan said:
Would love to be the "REAL" Police again. But I like having a job and don't want to go to prison. Its been open season on Police for years now and with all this media driven, racebait loving nonsense currently happening, you would have to be out of your mind to be a proactive Police Officer. As i have said numerous times, Society is going to get the kind of Police its demanding….you just better be careful what you wish for.fife said:<
Dear Muskydan, if what you just wrote here is true, i hope you are actually doing something about it and not just posting on this website.muskydan said:
Being the police in Chicago is a completely different animal that anywhere else if you Ask me. Lots of reasons, but the biggest if is that the storefront rev-runs and community activists pretty much run the city. They always deliver the votes for the infamous Democratic MACHINE . In the last 5 years I have found that the people in the ghetto no longer fear the police. They challenge and resist us all the time. I have been in more physical altercations and injured in the past years 5 years 3x as much as my first 10. When the bad guys no longer have a fear the Police society is in big trouble. Police Departments Will always fudge the numberous giving the General public a false sence of Hope that crime is down and there is nothing to fear. Chicago is the biggest violator of fudging numbers since the CPD is run not by the Department, but city hall and our egotistical Mayor Sir Rahm Emmanuel brought to you by the Emperor himself Barry Obama.oceaninmyeyes said:
*-:) I really want to thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I have a much better understanding of the situation. You work in a very stressful and dangerous job. Not exactly a war zone, but some days I bet it is pretty close. I am sure that to survive emotionally after seeing all that police officers have that most people don't like to think about, it becomes necessary to compartmentalize some of those situations. The "dude (that) looked like Swiss cheese" and not "getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger" helps you to survive. I am sure that it is an attitude that is adopted by many officers in the field. But that attitude is felt by the people in those "ghetto" communities, and makes them fear that the police view them as bad guys by virtue of where they live. Maybe it is not so much "hatred of police" as fear. Maybe they run away from cops because they fear what might happen to them if they don't. Fear and feelings of persecution will drive people to do a lot of things. Something has got to give. Peace muskydan. Be safemuskydan said:
In that situation if the guy is still on scene The police's first priority is to eliminate the threat so the EMT guys can get to the victims. I have been a part of a similar situation where dude killed his best friend and wife after he caught them doing whoppi. He barracaded himself in the apartment. Meanwhile we can hear his wife and friend screaming in agony as they were bleeding out. EMT's we're going nowhere near that situation until dude was elimated. It took us about 15 minutes to gear up and take the apartment. It was quite the gun battle and dude looked like Swiss cheese when it was all said and done. Unfortionately the wife and friend had already expired by the time we got to them. I personally have rendered first aid numerous times, but it all depends on the situation. I ain't getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger who got lit up on the corner selling dope Where he ain't supposed 2 be. That's about 90 % of my towns shootings .
But to answer you question, NO, you are not supposed to touch anyone. Wait for ambulance
My old partner is a homocide Det. And he told me the other day we are exactly at the number of homicides as we had last year at this time, but what you don't know is the dept is holding onto 43 " death investigations" that are obvious homicides but city hall does not want to have a 18% increase in homicides from last year when the rest of the country are having 20-30% drops in homicides.... Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors...look up Comp Stat if you wana learn how police deptments fudge numbers.
So The good people that are forced to live in the ghetto hate it what they all know, and that' s the Police Hands are tied. I talk to these salt of the earth oldtimers all the time when I get my coffee and they can't believe we can just pull up on a corner anymore and push off or lock up the countless dope dealing gangbanging shitbirds..It's those oldtimers and their families I am concerned for, the rest well they run the show now, we just pick up the pieces and call for an ambulance.....
Most jobs that are inherently dangerous are compensated for the risk associated with the work. Look at underwater welders for example. Basic risk/reward principles.
With police work... this isn't true. The risk is certainly there, however the compensation simply isn't. Neither is appreciation or respect to the level it should be for that matter.
Given the minimal upside, why would anyone want to do such a job?
This is a profession that is in serious need of a hug. I agree with Musky: it's going to get way worse in my opinion.
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Ok.josevolution said:
What ? Muskyguy was calling Obama Barry i found that to be condensending just like most of hi's postings ....why call him barry instead of Barack ...Last-12-Exit said:
How else could you take that? Is Barry a predominantly black guy name?josevolution said:
Oh ok so Barry is Barack i didn't know that ....Last-12-Exit said:Why? Barry isn't an acceptable form of Barack?
Slick Willie and tricky dick come to mind when people make up names for presidents.0 -
Nicknames are only given to those you like or those you dont. If you dont b like someone and you change their name to something less serious that is clearly disrespect. (Not that I have a particular problem with that, but let's all be homest and real here.
Where you get your info?
I feel like I rarely see those who dont like Obama defend their reasons with anything but feelings and opinions. Theres never any data given.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
what are you talking about what truth what reality what K ....you don't know me from a hole in the wall how about you go and get a coffee and free donuts .....muskydan said:
Truth and reality hurts….I feel ya. Now go get your info from a media outlet like Msnbc or CNN. It appears you like the K-bud…pull a tube and lighten up.josevolution said:
What ? Muskyguy was calling Obama Barry i found that to be condensending just like most of hi's postings ....Last-12-Exit said:
How else could you take that? Is Barry a predominantly black guy name?josevolution said:
Oh ok so Barry is Barack i didn't know that ....Last-12-Exit said:Why? Barry isn't an acceptable form of Barack?
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You do realize your intolerance feeds our racial divide as much as the media.muskydan said:
Would love to be the "REAL" Police again. But I like having a job and don't want to go to prison. Its been open season on Police for years now and with all this media driven, racebait loving nonsense currently happening, you would have to be out of your mind to be a proactive Police Officer. As i have said numerous times, Society is going to get the kind of Police its demanding….you just better be careful what you wish for.fife said:<
Dear Muskydan, if what you just wrote here is true, i hope you are actually doing something about it and not just posting on this website.muskydan said:
Being the police in Chicago is a completely different animal that anywhere else if you Ask me. Lots of reasons, but the biggest if is that the storefront rev-runs and community activists pretty much run the city. They always deliver the votes for the infamous Democratic MACHINE . In the last 5 years I have found that the people in the ghetto no longer fear the police. They challenge and resist us all the time. I have been in more physical altercations and injured in the past years 5 years 3x as much as my first 10. When the bad guys no longer have a fear the Police society is in big trouble. Police Departments Will always fudge the numberous giving the General public a false sence of Hope that crime is down and there is nothing to fear. Chicago is the biggest violator of fudging numbers since the CPD is run not by the Department, but city hall and our egotistical Mayor Sir Rahm Emmanuel brought to you by the Emperor himself Barry Obama.oceaninmyeyes said:
*-:) I really want to thank you for taking the time to explain this to me. I have a much better understanding of the situation. You work in a very stressful and dangerous job. Not exactly a war zone, but some days I bet it is pretty close. I am sure that to survive emotionally after seeing all that police officers have that most people don't like to think about, it becomes necessary to compartmentalize some of those situations. The "dude (that) looked like Swiss cheese" and not "getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger" helps you to survive. I am sure that it is an attitude that is adopted by many officers in the field. But that attitude is felt by the people in those "ghetto" communities, and makes them fear that the police view them as bad guys by virtue of where they live. Maybe it is not so much "hatred of police" as fear. Maybe they run away from cops because they fear what might happen to them if they don't. Fear and feelings of persecution will drive people to do a lot of things. Something has got to give. Peace muskydan. Be safemuskydan said:
In that situation if the guy is still on scene The police's first priority is to eliminate the threat so the EMT guys can get to the victims. I have been a part of a similar situation where dude killed his best friend and wife after he caught them doing whoppi. He barracaded himself in the apartment. Meanwhile we can hear his wife and friend screaming in agony as they were bleeding out. EMT's we're going nowhere near that situation until dude was elimated. It took us about 15 minutes to gear up and take the apartment. It was quite the gun battle and dude looked like Swiss cheese when it was all said and done. Unfortionately the wife and friend had already expired by the time we got to them. I personally have rendered first aid numerous times, but it all depends on the situation. I ain't getting blood on my hands from some gangbanger who got lit up on the corner selling dope Where he ain't supposed 2 be. That's about 90 % of my towns shootings .
But to answer you question, NO, you are not supposed to touch anyone. Wait for ambulance
My old partner is a homocide Det. And he told me the other day we are exactly at the number of homicides as we had last year at this time, but what you don't know is the dept is holding onto 43 " death investigations" that are obvious homicides but city hall does not want to have a 18% increase in homicides from last year when the rest of the country are having 20-30% drops in homicides.... Smoke and mirrors, smoke and mirrors...look up Comp Stat if you wana learn how police deptments fudge numbers.
So The good people that are forced to live in the ghetto hate it what they all know, and that' s the Police Hands are tied. I talk to these salt of the earth oldtimers all the time when I get my coffee and they can't believe we can just pull up on a corner anymore and push off or lock up the countless dope dealing gangbanging shitbirds..It's those oldtimers and their families I am concerned for, the rest well they run the show now, we just pick up the pieces and call for an ambulance.....
But go ahead and educate us that it's Barry and his democratic thug voters that are responsible for all of our ills.10-18-2000 Houston, 04-06-2003 Houston, 6-25-2003 Toronto, 10-8-2004 Kissimmee, 9-4-2005 Calgary, 12-3-05 Sao Paulo, 7-2-2006 Denver, 7-22-06 Gorge, 7-23-2006 Gorge, 9-13-2006 Bern, 6-22-2008 DC, 6-24-2008 MSG, 6-25-2008 MSG0
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