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  • rafierafie Posts: 2,160
    badbrains said:

    rr165892 said:

    badbrains said:

    rr165892 said:
    I find it funny that if Israel isn't occupying Palestine, then why do they have the right to arrest that man at the end of the video if he's on Palestinian land?
    Didn't know what that was about.seemed sketchy.Just saw him running with soldiers/cops behind him
    Ya me to, that's what I thought as soon as I saw that video.
    Who knows what the guy did. The video is after all blatantly edited to portray the soldiers as animals and the girl as some kind of hero. Just read the horrifically antisemitic (not anti-israel or pro palestinian, antisemitic) comments under it.

    rr, the parts in hebrew at the end was nothing important. The guy asked where their cameraman was and then another soldier took the guys picture.

    BTW, what exactly is so brave about what this girl is doing in the video? There are plenty of reporters around to capture if anything would happen. It is obviously just plain old fashioned baiting hoping that one of the soldiers loses his shit. Thankfully, nothing of the sort happened.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,604
    badbrains said:

    This is by far the worst pic I've seen anywhere, tweeted by a doctor in gaza. VERY VERY GRAPHIC BE WARNED.

    is it not possible to post only the link? that way those that wish to keep abreast of whats going on arent subjected to these images scrolling through the thread?
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  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    mickeyrat said:

    badbrains said:

    This is by far the worst pic I've seen anywhere, tweeted by a doctor in gaza. VERY VERY GRAPHIC BE WARNED.

    is it not possible to post only the link? that way those that wish to keep abreast of whats going on arent subjected to these images scrolling through the thread?
    Sorry Mickey, when I post the link to the twitter feed, it automatically posts the pics. I've tried but it doesn't work.
  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    The killers cancel tel aviv show and so does sinad oconner

  • badbrainsbadbrains Posts: 10,255
    U guys think I should start a thread just for pics? Mite be better off so people don't have to see the pics if they don't want to?
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,150
    edited August 2014
    Edit, please ignore. I was testing to see if a spoiler tag would work to hide pictures by default.
    Post edited by benjs on
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    badbrains said:

    The killers cancel tel aviv show and so does sinad oconner

    The irony!
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    badbrains said:

    U guys think I should start a thread just for pics? Mite be better off so people don't have to see the pics if they don't want to?

    No...it's in the title
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,604
    badbrains said:

    U guys think I should start a thread just for pics? Mite be better off so people don't have to see the pics if they don't want to?

    at this point it might be better to start the new one on info alone? Perhaps C/P some of the good factual info from here? Lot to wade through I know, but its too much now. its beginning to serve only as a very in my face reminder how helpless and the little I CAN do about this to effect real change.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    JC29856 said:

    and look what do you know... the official hamas terrorist human shield manual
    (we should send the idf to aruba to locate natalie)

    http://nypost.com/2014/08/05/hamas-manual-details-civilian-death-plan-israel/

    Who with half a brain and a morsel of common sense didn't know it was more idf bull shit?

    http://truthandarttv.com/idf-hamas-human-shield-manual-a-sloppy-forgery#.U-pUKsLZtzs.twitter
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,172
    badbrains said:

    U guys think I should start a thread just for pics? Mite be better off so people don't have to see the pics if they don't want to?

    Maybe. I'll admit, I hadn't clicked on this thread since seeing the baby pic you posted the warning about last night. Not because you shouldn't have posted it and not because it didn't have relevance to the discussion. It was certainly relevant. It was just that I personally couldn't bare to see it again.

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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,150
    edited August 2014
    Bump! I still think this is an important question.

    The logic in a nutshell:
    -Hamas requests a loosening of border traffic restrictions
    -From the unrelenting viewpoint of the Israeli government, Hamas is a terrorist organization (I am not stating my opinion on Hamas, just the Israeli government's)
    -Terrorist organizations wish to inflict harm
    -A government's first obligation is to protect its citizens

    Based on this, it seems to me that loosening the border traffic restrictions would be in conflict with the Israeli's government first obligation of protecting its citizens, based on their premise that Hamas is a terrorist organization. This is a simplification, but I think the logic stands. Does anyone know why these cease-fire conditions were given instead of a proposal for independence, which would put the onus on Hamas to 'behave'? Is it simply because of the assumption that Israel will reject it, wanting to maintain control over the area? I ask because these cease-fire conditions leave me skeptical of Hamas' motives more than any act of theirs recently that I've read about: if I can see the logic Israel could use to reject the offer, I would assume Hamas can as well. It does not seem to be a truce proposal which benefits the Palestinian people the way independence would, in my opinion.
    benjs said:

    JC29856 said:

    Anyone think these are unreasonable..

    Withdrawal of Israeli tanks from the Gaza border.

    Freeing all the prisoners that were arrested after the killing of the three youths.

    Lifting the siege and opening the border crossings to commerce and people.

    Establishing an international seaport and airport which would be under U.N. supervision.

    Increasing the permitted fishing zone to 10 kilometers.

    Internationalizing the Rafah Crossing and placing it under the supervision of the U.N. and some Arab nations.

    International forces on the borders.

    Easing conditions for permits to pray at the Al Aqsa Mosque.

    Prohibition on Israeli interference in the reconciliation agreement.

    Reestablishing an industrial zone and improvements in further economic development in the Gaza Strip.

    I disagree with what they've asked for. Israel - who allowed for the death of over 1,500 human beings in the name of the security of their citizens - are incapable based on their own vendetta against Hamas of opening the border crossings to commerce and people. The same logic applies as well in regards to the withdrawal of Israeli tanks. Traffic in and out would quickly become just as restricted as it is now, and all of a sudden, things would be back right now because Hamas will not cease the resistance until the Israeli presence in Palestinian life is missing, and Israeli presence in Palestinian life will not go anywhere until Hamas ceases to resist.

    Asking for the right to govern Gaza and the West Bank independently, on the other hand, has similar results with some notable exceptions:
    -Freeing all the prisoners: this would be a matter of contention. If Palestine is to exist as a nation, they would have to possess a prison: the prisoners could be transferred to Palestinian prisons run with international assistance.
    -Lifting the siege and opening the border crossings to commerce and people: this could only happen with international supervision.
    -Israeli settlements would have to be dismounted and removed from Gaza and the West Bank
    -International accountability for terrorist attacks would reside solely with Hamas. Liability would be shifted from Israel to the Palestinian Unity government in its entirety.

    Any ideas as to why it was decided to ask for the former and not the latter?
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,957
    edited August 2014

    JC29856 said:

    image

    that poor little girl.

    who is using a human as a shield now?
    My point about context comes raging back. Gimme, what about this photo convinces you that those soldiers are doing anything close to using that girl as a human shield? Again, not siding with Israeli soldiers here. I am just interested in the Truth.

    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,150
    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    image

    that poor little girl.

    who is using a human as a shield now?
    My point about context comes raging back. Gimme, what about this photo convinces you that those soldiers are doing anything close to using that girl as a human shield? Again, not siding with Israeli soldiers here. I am just interested in the Truth.
    According to tineye.com reverse image search, this was first posted on lexpress.fr on March 17th, 2010 (http://www.lexpress.fr/diaporama/diapo-photo/actualite/monde/proche-moyen-orient/la-colere-des-palestiniens-a-jerusalem-est_855929.html)

    The translation from Google Translate on its caption: "This Palestinian girl comes home from school while Palestinians in the refugee camp of Shufat near Jerusalem, throwing stones at Israeli border guards."
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  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    image

    that poor little girl.

    who is using a human as a shield now?
    My point about context comes raging back. Gimme, what about this photo convinces you that those soldiers are doing anything close to using that girl as a human shield? Again, not siding with Israeli soldiers here. I am just interested in the Truth.
    PJ ,that's what I was discussing with BB before.I think all pics should come with some back up/links if at all possible.for reference to keep the info all above board and as bias free as possible.How do we know she wasn't just walking home and was in the photo?Or maybe she was put there by someone? Or maybe she is cover? We just don't know the context.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    rafie said:

    badbrains said:

    rr165892 said:

    badbrains said:

    rr165892 said:
    I find it funny that if Israel isn't occupying Palestine, then why do they have the right to arrest that man at the end of the video if he's on Palestinian land?
    Didn't know what that was about.seemed sketchy.Just saw him running with soldiers/cops behind him
    Ya me to, that's what I thought as soon as I saw that video.
    Who knows what the guy did. The video is after all blatantly edited to portray the soldiers as animals and the girl as some kind of hero. Just read the horrifically antisemitic (not anti-israel or pro palestinian, antisemitic) comments under it.

    rr, the parts in hebrew at the end was nothing important. The guy asked where their cameraman was and then another soldier took the guys picture.

    BTW, what exactly is so brave about what this girl is doing in the video? There are plenty of reporters around to capture if anything would happen. It is obviously just plain old fashioned baiting hoping that one of the soldiers loses his shit. Thankfully, nothing of the sort happened.
    Thx Raffie.I did not read the comments,so I can't comment,but that wouldn't surprise me.And not sure if you were talking about my post,but I said she was a spitfire and had balls,I did not say she was brave.I would question the motives of the adults that were supporting her actions.Edited or not I think it both captured the anger of the kid and the restraint of the soldiers.But I kept saying to myself where are her parents.I wouldnt have let my daughter do that when she was young.But I'm not living with the issues you folks are over there.
  • rr165892rr165892 Posts: 5,697
    edited August 2014
    So is i
    benjs said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    image

    that poor little girl.

    who is using a human as a shield now?
    My point about context comes raging back. Gimme, what about this photo convinces you that those soldiers are doing anything close to using that girl as a human shield? Again, not siding with Israeli soldiers here. I am just interested in the Truth.
    According to tineye.com reverse image search, this was first posted on lexpress.fr on March 17th, 2010 (http://www.lexpress.fr/diaporama/diapo-photo/actualite/monde/proche-moyen-orient/la-colere-des-palestiniens-a-jerusalem-est_855929.html)

    The translation from Google Translate on its caption: "This Palestinian girl comes home from school while Palestinians in the refugee camp of Shufat near Jerusalem, throwing stones at Israeli border guards."
    so to PJs point is it relevant to the conflict now?Its out of context,yes?
    She was not being used as a shield.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,150
    rr165892 said:

    So is i

    benjs said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    image

    that poor little girl.

    who is using a human as a shield now?
    My point about context comes raging back. Gimme, what about this photo convinces you that those soldiers are doing anything close to using that girl as a human shield? Again, not siding with Israeli soldiers here. I am just interested in the Truth.
    According to tineye.com reverse image search, this was first posted on lexpress.fr on March 17th, 2010 (http://www.lexpress.fr/diaporama/diapo-photo/actualite/monde/proche-moyen-orient/la-colere-des-palestiniens-a-jerusalem-est_855929.html)

    The translation from Google Translate on its caption: "This Palestinian girl comes home from school while Palestinians in the refugee camp of Shufat near Jerusalem, throwing stones at Israeli border guards."
    so to PJs point is it relevant to the conflict now?Its out of context,yes?
    I'd say it provides different context, but it's not irrelevant. To me, this picture reaffirms that there is hatred aimed at Israelis by Palestinians, as a product of the impossible-to-avoid presence of Israelis in Palestinian life. But that's subject to interpretation.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,957
    The photo that first really got me thinking about this "trend" is this one (this and variations of the same theme that circulated WIDELY on social media and in mainstream Palestinian media maybe a couple of months ago):

    image

    Okay, so the initial story was that these boys were harassing and heckling this old lady after she'd been kicked out of her home by Israeli soldiers. This is the story that went viral. Well, that seemed a bit odd to me, so I dug deeper. Turns out that story was a COMPLETE fabrication designed to stir up hate towards Israeli CIVILIANS. The REAL story is that the teens and a bunch of people were out on the streets having a peaceful celebration and singing an Israeli celebratory song. That old lady came out of her home and started trying to stop them from singing by banging on a serving tray. The boys in that photo were simply continuing to sing over the racket she was making and making the point that they wanted to continue singing despite the fact that the old woman wanted them to shut up. So basically, that photo is one of some teenaged boys being defiant towards an old woman who is banging a pan in their faces. Yet because it was used as propaganda, it played a significant role in deepening the hate that people feel for Israeli CITIZENS.

    Ever since then, I've been VERY wary of any photos coming out of that conflict if they are being used as a way to stir up emotions (on either side of fence... but of course in most cases the photos are against Israel, so, you know...
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    image

    that poor little girl.

    who is using a human as a shield now?
    My point about context comes raging back. Gimme, what about this photo convinces you that those soldiers are doing anything close to using that girl as a human shield? Again, not siding with Israeli soldiers here. I am just interested in the Truth.

    The photo that first really got me thinking about this "trend" is this one (this and variations of the same theme that circulated WIDELY on social media and in mainstream Palestinian media maybe a couple of months ago):

    image

    Okay, so the initial story was that these boys were harassing and heckling this old lady after she'd been kicked out of her home by Israeli soldiers. This is the story that went viral. Well, that seemed a bit odd to me, so I dug deeper. Turns out that story was a COMPLETE fabrication designed to stir up hate towards Israeli CIVILIANS. The REAL story is that the teens and a bunch of people were out on the streets having a peaceful celebration and singing an Israeli celebratory song. That old lady came out of her home and started trying to stop them from singing by banging on a serving tray. The boys in that photo were simply continuing to sing over the racket she was making and making the point that they wanted to continue singing despite the fact that the old woman wanted them to shut up. So basically, that photo is one of some teenaged boys being defiant towards an old woman who is banging a pan in their faces. Yet because it was used as propaganda, it played a significant role in deepening the hate that people feel for Israeli CITIZENS.

    Ever since then, I've been VERY wary of any photos coming out of that conflict if they are being used as a way to stir up emotions (on either side of fence... but of course in most cases the photos are against Israel, so, you know...
    In the second photo (the black and white one)... it turns out the three men were hacky sacking. The one fellow slipped and fell. The other two were laughing at their friend's folly.
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  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,150
    edited August 2014
    PJ_Soul said:

    The photo that first really got me thinking about this "trend" is this one (this and variations of the same theme that circulated WIDELY on social media and in mainstream Palestinian media maybe a couple of months ago):

    image

    Okay, so the initial story was that these boys were harassing and heckling this old lady after she'd been kicked out of her home by Israeli soldiers. This is the story that went viral. Well, that seemed a bit odd to me, so I dug deeper. Turns out that story was a COMPLETE fabrication designed to stir up hate towards Israeli CIVILIANS. The REAL story is that the teens and a bunch of people were out on the streets having a peaceful celebration and singing an Israeli celebratory song. That old lady came out of her home and started trying to stop them from singing by banging on a serving tray. The boys in that photo were simply continuing to sing over the racket she was making and making the point that they wanted to continue singing despite the fact that the old woman wanted them to shut up. So basically, that photo is one of some teenaged boys being defiant towards an old woman who is banging a pan in their faces. Yet because it was used as propaganda, it played a significant role in deepening the hate that people feel for Israeli CITIZENS.

    Ever since then, I've been VERY wary of any photos coming out of that conflict if they are being used as a way to stir up emotions (on either side of fence... but of course in most cases the photos are against Israel, so, you know...

    The earliest I can find of the Jews and the Palestinian woman is from from Yahoo Singapore. The site is no longer listed, but the first reported photograph's title is "http://d.yimg.com/hb/ng/co/afp/20100512/17/3182893421-israel-defiant-on-settlements-as-it-marks-jerusalem-day.jpg"

    The photo was listed on May 12th, 2010, which corresponds to Jerusalem Day of that year. The picture was then reposted on a flickr page (https://www.flickr.com/photos/plasmastik/4611942781/), with the original photo credit, on May 16th, 2010, with the following caption:

    "A Palestinian woman whose house has been occupied by Jewish settlers argue with Israelis who came to celebrate Jerusalem Day on May 12, 2010 in front of her disputed house in the east Jerusalem neighborhood of Sheikh Jarrah. Israel is celebrating the anniversary of the "unification" of Jerusalem, marking 43 years since it captured mainly Arab east Jerusalem during the 1967 Middle East war. Thousands of people, mostly nationalist-religious Jews, were expected to take part in an annual march through Jerusalem later Wednesday that culminates in the Old City at the Wailing Wall, one of the holiest sites in Judaism AFP PHOTO/AHMAD GHARABLI (Photo credit should read AHMAD GHARABLI/AFP/Getty Images)"

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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,957
    edited August 2014

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    image

    that poor little girl.

    who is using a human as a shield now?
    My point about context comes raging back. Gimme, what about this photo convinces you that those soldiers are doing anything close to using that girl as a human shield? Again, not siding with Israeli soldiers here. I am just interested in the Truth.

    The photo that first really got me thinking about this "trend" is this one (this and variations of the same theme that circulated WIDELY on social media and in mainstream Palestinian media maybe a couple of months ago):

    image

    Okay, so the initial story was that these boys were harassing and heckling this old lady after she'd been kicked out of her home by Israeli soldiers. This is the story that went viral. Well, that seemed a bit odd to me, so I dug deeper. Turns out that story was a COMPLETE fabrication designed to stir up hate towards Israeli CIVILIANS. The REAL story is that the teens and a bunch of people were out on the streets having a peaceful celebration and singing an Israeli celebratory song. That old lady came out of her home and started trying to stop them from singing by banging on a serving tray. The boys in that photo were simply continuing to sing over the racket she was making and making the point that they wanted to continue singing despite the fact that the old woman wanted them to shut up. So basically, that photo is one of some teenaged boys being defiant towards an old woman who is banging a pan in their faces. Yet because it was used as propaganda, it played a significant role in deepening the hate that people feel for Israeli CITIZENS.

    Ever since then, I've been VERY wary of any photos coming out of that conflict if they are being used as a way to stir up emotions (on either side of fence... but of course in most cases the photos are against Israel, so, you know...
    In the second photo (the black and white one)... it turns out the three men were hacky sacking. The one fellow slipped and fell. The other two were laughing at their friend's folly.
    Lol, SMH! ;) Not ALL photos lack context.... the SS uniforms add a bit of context, haha (not funny).
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
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  • PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    JC29856 said:

    image

    that poor little girl.

    who is using a human as a shield now?
    My point about context comes raging back. Gimme, what about this photo convinces you that those soldiers are doing anything close to using that girl as a human shield? Again, not siding with Israeli soldiers here. I am just interested in the Truth.

    The photo that first really got me thinking about this "trend" is this one (this and variations of the same theme that circulated WIDELY on social media and in mainstream Palestinian media maybe a couple of months ago):

    image

    Okay, so the initial story was that these boys were harassing and heckling this old lady after she'd been kicked out of her home by Israeli soldiers. This is the story that went viral. Well, that seemed a bit odd to me, so I dug deeper. Turns out that story was a COMPLETE fabrication designed to stir up hate towards Israeli CIVILIANS. The REAL story is that the teens and a bunch of people were out on the streets having a peaceful celebration and singing an Israeli celebratory song. That old lady came out of her home and started trying to stop them from singing by banging on a serving tray. The boys in that photo were simply continuing to sing over the racket she was making and making the point that they wanted to continue singing despite the fact that the old woman wanted them to shut up. So basically, that photo is one of some teenaged boys being defiant towards an old woman who is banging a pan in their faces. Yet because it was used as propaganda, it played a significant role in deepening the hate that people feel for Israeli CITIZENS.

    Ever since then, I've been VERY wary of any photos coming out of that conflict if they are being used as a way to stir up emotions (on either side of fence... but of course in most cases the photos are against Israel, so, you know...
    In the second photo (the black and white one)... it turns out the three men were hacky sacking. The one fellow slipped and fell. The other two were laughing at their friend's folly.
    Lol, SMH! ;) Not ALL photos lack context.... the SS uniforms add a bit of context, haha (not funny).
    :))

    Bad joke. I know. Couldn't resist though. Things have been pretty hostile and angry around here lately.
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,871
    edited August 2014
    The solution for posting images is to just post the link to the image. Then if someone wants to see it, they can click on it. It's not usually ok to hot-link to people's images anyway. This solution allows people to post all the images they want and allows others to not look if that's what they want.

    Thank you for cooperating. The spoiler feature only works on text.
    Post edited by Kat on
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited August 2014
    Example of freedom and democracy in Israel
    http://youtu.be/RCSpI0ZzZf4
  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617

    Israel has long had stormy relations with the UNHRC.

    In January 2012, it became the first country to refuse to attend a periodic review of its human rights record.

    And two months later, it cut all ties with the Geneva-based council after it announced an inquiry into how West Bank settlements are infringing on Palestinians rights.
  • benjsbenjs Posts: 9,150
    edited August 2014
    JC29856 said:

    Example of freedom and democracy in Israel
    http://youtu.be/RCSpI0ZzZf4

    Again, it'd be nice to see a raw, unedited version of this, without cuts or jumps to different angles/times.

    That being said, good for this kid for standing up for this cause. It's an embarrassment that Israelis and the Israeli government have the audacity to claim to represent the world Jewry with their actions. I hope people like him can help convince the world that we are not that naive and blind to injustices.
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Reports that Israel broke truce again by shelling coastline.

    And this from raw story..

    The United States is complicit in human rights violations committed by Israel against Gaza, said linguist and political scientist Noam Chomsky.

    Chomsky told Democracy Now that U.S. coverage of the shelling reflected Israeli propaganda, and he dismissed a widely quoted remark by Israel’s former prime minister, Golda Meir, as dishonest and cruel.

    Bob Schieffer, host of CBS’ “Face the Nation,” repeated the quote — “We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children, but we can never forgive them for forcing us to kill their children” – on a recent broadcast, and Chomsky said U.S. media coverage has been “shameful.”

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