by WashingtonsBlog Israel Has Frequently Used Palestinians as Human Shields Israelis frequently accuse Palestinians of using human shields.
That claim is highly questionable.
However, in 2005, the Israeli high court found that Israeli soldiers had used Palestinian civilians as human shields 1,200 times in the past 5 years. As Ynet reported at the time:
What do you think it means? Could it refer to the missiles they are firing at Israel?
Already posted...lay all weapons at curb so Israel can drive street to destroyed street city to destroyed city and collect them like a trash truck would or a totally bogus request.
What do you think it means? Could it refer to the missiles they are firing at Israel?
Already posted...lay all weapons at curb so Israel can drive street to destroyed street city to destroyed city and collect them like a trash truck would or a totally bogus request.
Is this one of your snide comments that's a sarcastic commentary on what you assume Israel wants, or did you read this in an article? If so, please post a link - if not, I will continue to insist on a source on your posts which are anything but opinion-driven.
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Reports that Israel broke truce again by shelling coastline.
And this from raw story..
The United States is complicit in human rights violations committed by Israel against Gaza, said linguist and political scientist Noam Chomsky.
Chomsky told Democracy Now that U.S. coverage of the shelling reflected Israeli propaganda, and he dismissed a widely quoted remark by Israel’s former prime minister, Golda Meir, as dishonest and cruel.
Bob Schieffer, host of CBS’ “Face the Nation,” repeated the quote — “We can forgive the Arabs for killing our children, but we can never forgive them for forcing us to kill their children” – on a recent broadcast, and Chomsky said U.S. media coverage has been “shameful.”
Please tell where these reports are. A Google search for 'Israel', as well as one for 'Gaza', leaves me incapable of finding it, when I've seen at least one report (usually several, actually) for every other cease-fire violation this far in the conflict - even the unsubstantiated ones.
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I emailed him and asked him why continue to fight when civilians are getting massacred, like some have asked here, part of his response "when you don't have much you don't have much to lose" "were fighting for the unborn" "Why stop when we're winning"
Hamas may be winning in its PR game, but so long as Palestinians remain without liberation, and the death tolls get higher - the Palestinians certainly aren't winning. Unfortunately, I feel that tonight the killing resumes when Israel rejects the cease-fire conditions. If anyone cares to respond, I've asked three times now throughout this thread (as recently as two pages ago) about the logic of Hamas' ten-year truce conditions.
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Yes. The author himself admits that being a freedom fighter preceeds any rational thinking. If it is just a PR war then I can see a case being made that Hamas is winning. Maybe that will translate to real gains for the Palestinian people in Gaza, maybe it won't. I would not go so far as saying the people in Gaza are winning anything right now.
Yes. The author himself admits that being a freedom fighter preceeds any rational thinking. If it is just a PR war then I can see a case being made that Hamas is winning. Maybe that will translate to real gains for the Palestinian people in Gaza, maybe it won't. I would not go so far as saying the people in Gaza are winning anything right now.
where does it say hamas? because i read gaza and the resistance
explain this.."The author himself admits that being a freedom fighter preceeds any rational thinking"
Yes. The author himself admits that being a freedom fighter preceeds any rational thinking. If it is just a PR war then I can see a case being made that Hamas is winning. Maybe that will translate to real gains for the Palestinian people in Gaza, maybe it won't. I would not go so far as saying the people in Gaza are winning anything right now.
where does it say hamas? because i read gaza and the resistance
explain this.."The author himself admits that being a freedom fighter preceeds any rational thinking"
I can't explain that - I wish I could. NOTHING should precede rational thinking when using guns and rockets.
And again - there are no shades of grey to the fact that Palestinians are either liberated, or not. There is no "almost" liberated, and therefore there is no such thing as being in the process of "winning" for the Palestinians. Hamas can be winning, because the only logical goal I can think of from sending rockets in Israel's direction is the knowledge of disproportionate response from Israel, and swaying of public opinion: this is how Hamas is winning.
Palestinians are either dying and oppressed or not. Are they dying? Yes. Are they oppressed? Yes. So are they winning? You decide.
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Yes. The author himself admits that being a freedom fighter preceeds any rational thinking. If it is just a PR war then I can see a case being made that Hamas is winning. Maybe that will translate to real gains for the Palestinian people in Gaza, maybe it won't. I would not go so far as saying the people in Gaza are winning anything right now.
where does it say hamas? because i read gaza and the resistance
explain this.."The author himself admits that being a freedom fighter preceeds any rational thinking"
The sixth paragraph of the article. I would copy and paste but I am on my phone. And no, that wasn't the point he was trying to make. I just found the word choice interesting given the discussion of who is winning.
I read Gaza and the resistance, too. But what resistance movement did his friend join if not Hamas? I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that is who and what the author was speaking of.
Yes. The author himself admits that being a freedom fighter preceeds any rational thinking. If it is just a PR war then I can see a case being made that Hamas is winning. Maybe that will translate to real gains for the Palestinian people in Gaza, maybe it won't. I would not go so far as saying the people in Gaza are winning anything right now.
Hamas is 100% winning the PR war. I have stated repeatedly that that is what they care about instead of the well being of the people of gaza. After all, Halad Mashal stated last week that they "won". I have no idea how 1800 deaths can be considered a win except during a PR war. For the record, I don't believe that there is such a thing as "winning" when it comes to war. Everyone loses during war time...
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Accusing UNRWA of maintaining active and extensive ties with Hamas— and of supporting its activities throughout the month-long war— Senate Foreign Relations Committee members Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) wrote a letter this week to US Secretary of State John Kerry accusing the UN agency of bias and characterizing its role in the conflict as "troubling."
Opensecrets.org Follow the money... contributions Mark Kirk Pro-Israel $715,160 Ben Cardin $799,665
Accusing UNRWA of maintaining active and extensive ties with Hamas— and of supporting its activities throughout the month-long war— Senate Foreign Relations Committee members Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) wrote a letter this week to US Secretary of State John Kerry accusing the UN agency of bias and characterizing its role in the conflict as "troubling."
Opensecrets.org Follow the money... contributions Mark Kirk Pro-Israel $715,160 Ben Cardin $799,665
I think that's a double-standard as well. For the record, Ben Cardin's pro-Israel contributions were $249,553, and Mark Kirk's were $747,029. Thankfully, the UN has shown that their positions are not subject to the US's, and hopefully things will remain that way.
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Are you fucking stupid? Seriously?
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http://www.dailystar.com.lb/News/Middle-East/2014/Aug-13/267043-egypt-presents-proposal-to-end-war-in-gaza.ashx#axzz3AFKSwgVD
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Israel Has Frequently Used Palestinians as Human Shields
Israelis frequently accuse Palestinians of using human shields.
That claim is highly questionable.
However, in 2005, the Israeli high court found that Israeli soldiers had used Palestinian civilians as human shields 1,200 times in the past 5 years. As Ynet reported at the time:
Read more at http://investmentwatchblog.com/israeli-high-court-israeli-soldiers-used-palestinians-as-human-shields-1200-times/#xmIT3Qck3cfIw6LE.99
totally bogus request.
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I emailed him and asked him why continue to fight when civilians are getting massacred, like some have asked here, part of his response "when you don't have much you don't have much to lose" "were fighting for the unborn" "Why stop when we're winning"
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2014/08/israel-use-banned-weapons-dime-gaza-war.html#
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"...I changed by not changing at all..."
explain this.."The author himself admits that being a freedom fighter preceeds any rational thinking"
And again - there are no shades of grey to the fact that Palestinians are either liberated, or not. There is no "almost" liberated, and therefore there is no such thing as being in the process of "winning" for the Palestinians. Hamas can be winning, because the only logical goal I can think of from sending rockets in Israel's direction is the knowledge of disproportionate response from Israel, and swaying of public opinion: this is how Hamas is winning.
Palestinians are either dying and oppressed or not. Are they dying? Yes. Are they oppressed? Yes. So are they winning? You decide.
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I read Gaza and the resistance, too. But what resistance movement did his friend join if not Hamas? I assumed (maybe incorrectly) that is who and what the author was speaking of.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Terror tunnels to kindergarten!
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/08/13/an-interview-with-richard-falk-on-the-crisis-in-gaza/
For the record, I don't believe that there is such a thing as "winning" when it comes to war. Everyone loses during war time...
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How many US policy makers traveled to Palestine vs Israel, I'm sure it's "grossly disproportionate"
Is that a spoof or real?
Accusing UNRWA of maintaining active and extensive ties with Hamas— and of supporting its activities throughout the month-long war— Senate Foreign Relations Committee members Mark Kirk (R-Ill.), Ben Cardin (D-Md.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) wrote a letter this week to US Secretary of State John Kerry accusing the UN agency of bias and characterizing its role in the conflict as "troubling."
Opensecrets.org
Follow the money... contributions
Mark Kirk Pro-Israel $715,160
Ben Cardin $799,665
http://maplight.org/us-congress/interest/J5100/view/all
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I'm sure that letter was written for them.
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Opensecrets.org
Follow the money... contributions
Mark Kirk Pro-Israel $715,160
Ben Cardin $799,665