would not surprise me after all of the hubub from israelis after ed spoke about peace at MK...
One lucky fan keeps attacking peoples posts as dumb or silly or ignorant or lies because they dnt fit with his ideas about how peaceful and democratic Israel is. Good to see you speaking up Gimmie
nah, I recognize the name from facebook....she's been pretty butt-hurt since Ed's speech. Thankfully, with every bomb dropped on Gaza, the hasbara playbook becomes more worn and tired. No one is buying this shit any longer.
Not true. The entire world supports a return to the 67 borders, the dismantling of the settlements, and an end to occupation/blockade. The US (and recently canada) stand alone in opposing this. The world is trying to stop israel, but the sole superpower won't allow it.
As for Europe....I'll let our euro friends address that. However, I notice you assume no responsibility for the huge role your country plays in creating extremists.
Hams is a terrorist orginazations plain and simple,so don't get caught up in this propaganda saying otherwise.And just because we are all so fond of posting data here is a list of Hamas nice guy activities.If bus bombings,and market and pizza restaurant bombings aren't the same as cowardly terrorism then please enlighten me.I for one ,as a proud American do support Israel and want to help them any way possible dismantle and squash global terror.Heres your list. Read it before blindly following some of this nonsense and anti West,anti American,anti Jewish,anti Israeli nonsense. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
So you support fighting terrorism with terrorism?
And what do you suggest? How should we fight terror? By sending Hamas/Islamic Jihad/ ISIS 'peace pigeons'?
Let me put it this way.. If ill dig a tunnel that it porpuse is to kill you.. And you are aware to this kind of threat flying over your head. What would you do?
I'd bomb every school, hospital, rehab centre, water facility, power plant, factory, farm, and child I could until there was no more enemy....of course. Perfectly reasonable response.
Funny you referenced Bibi's cartoon of tunnels going into Israeli kindergartens in this thread. Amazing that his flock just eat this shit up.
Isn't that where Hamas has been hiding its weapons?
Hams is a terrorist orginazations plain and simple,so don't get caught up in this propaganda saying otherwise.And just because we are all so fond of posting data here is a list of Hamas nice guy activities.If bus bombings,and market and pizza restaurant bombings aren't the same as cowardly terrorism then please enlighten me.I for one ,as a proud American do support Israel and want to help them any way possible dismantle and squash global terror.Heres your list. Read it before blindly following some of this nonsense and anti West,anti American,anti Jewish,anti Israeli nonsense. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
So you support fighting terrorism with terrorism?
And what do you suggest? How should we fight terror? By sending Hamas/Islamic Jihad/ ISIS 'peace pigeons'?
Let me put it this way.. If ill dig a tunnel that it porpuse is to kill you.. And you are aware to this kind of threat flying over your head. What would you do?
I'd bomb every school, hospital, rehab centre, water facility, power plant, factory, farm, and child I could until there was no more enemy....of course. Perfectly reasonable response.
Funny you referenced Bibi's cartoon of tunnels going into Israeli kindergartens in this thread. Amazing that his flock just eat this shit up.
Isn't that where Hamas has been hiding its weapons?
In Israeli kindergartens? You're getting your self defense and your human shield talking points confused. Bibi's graphic showed terrorists tunnelling into Israeli kindergartens.
Can someone direct me to the right place in the forum.. Were can i open a post in memory of the Israeli brave soliders and civilianze who lost their lives defending the country? I just want to prevent from violeting the terms here. Thanks.
Hams is a terrorist orginazations plain and simple,so don't get caught up in this propaganda saying otherwise.And just because we are all so fond of posting data here is a list of Hamas nice guy activities.If bus bombings,and market and pizza restaurant bombings aren't the same as cowardly terrorism then please enlighten me.I for one ,as a proud American do support Israel and want to help them any way possible dismantle and squash global terror.Heres your list. Read it before blindly following some of this nonsense and anti West,anti American,anti Jewish,anti Israeli nonsense. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
So you support fighting terrorism with terrorism?
And what do you suggest? How should we fight terror? By sending Hamas/Islamic Jihad/ ISIS 'peace pigeons'?
Let me put it this way.. If ill dig a tunnel that it porpuse is to kill you.. And you are aware to this kind of threat flying over your head. What would you do?
I'd bomb every school, hospital, rehab centre, water facility, power plant, factory, farm, and child I could until there was no more enemy....of course. Perfectly reasonable response.
Funny you referenced Bibi's cartoon of tunnels going into Israeli kindergartens in this thread. Amazing that his flock just eat this shit up.
Isn't that where Hamas has been hiding its weapons?
In Israeli kindergartens? You're getting your self defense and your human shield talking points confused. Bibi's graphic showed terrorists tunnelling into Israeli kindergartens.
Now,now your more clever than that,c'mon man. We both know only Hamas uses that play book.
Can someone direct me to the right place in the forum.. Were can i open a post in memory of the Israeli brave soliders and civilianze who lost their lives defending the country? I just want to prevent from violeting the terms here. Thanks.
AMT,would be the place,Just remember what you post is open to critique and comment.Id suggest a different site,unless you want to open yourself up to what comes with it.But if you got thick skin roll w it.Make yourself happy.
Not true. The entire world supports a return to the 67 borders, the dismantling of the settlements, and an end to occupation/blockade. The US (and recently canada) stand alone in opposing this. The world is trying to stop israel, but the sole superpower won't allow it.
As for Europe....I'll let our euro friends address that. However, I notice you assume no responsibility for the huge role your country plays in creating extremists.
I think this is a reach.This scares the shit out of some countries who think it weakens a anti terror foothold in the region.
Can someone direct me to the right place in the forum.. Were can i open a post in memory of the Israeli brave soliders and civilianze who lost their lives defending the country? I just want to prevent from violeting the terms here. Thanks.
Awesome, and we can make a thread with all the brave Palestinians who were killed/massacred defending their right to EXIST and live too. Mite take us fucken a long time posting all the names and pics, but you can help us in that thread since your thread will take approximately 5 maybe 10 mins to post.
I'm still waiting on you to clarify that pornographic dead children on the streets in syria comment you made. Was that just bullshit or did you try to spread MORE propaganda and lies in a different thread? Just curious....
Not true. The entire world supports a return to the 67 borders, the dismantling of the settlements, and an end to occupation/blockade. The US (and recently canada) stand alone in opposing this. The world is trying to stop israel, but the sole superpower won't allow it.
As for Europe....I'll let our euro friends address that. However, I notice you assume no responsibility for the huge role your country plays in creating extremists.
I think this is a reach.This scares the shit out of some countries who think it weakens a anti terror foothold in the region.
Not a stretch. I'm sure you've seen Byrnzie post the results of the UN votes on resolution 242. It is supported by the whole world, except for Canada (recently), the US, and a handful of island nations. Some countries could use a scare. If you're worried about extremists, there is probably a reason for it. Namely, support for Israel's atrocities.
Hams is a terrorist orginazations plain and simple,so don't get caught up in this propaganda saying otherwise.And just because we are all so fond of posting data here is a list of Hamas nice guy activities.If bus bombings,and market and pizza restaurant bombings aren't the same as cowardly terrorism then please enlighten me.I for one ,as a proud American do support Israel and want to help them any way possible dismantle and squash global terror.Heres your list. Read it before blindly following some of this nonsense and anti West,anti American,anti Jewish,anti Israeli nonsense. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
So you support fighting terrorism with terrorism?
And what do you suggest? How should we fight terror? By sending Hamas/Islamic Jihad/ ISIS 'peace pigeons'?
Let me put it this way.. If ill dig a tunnel that it porpuse is to kill you.. And you are aware to this kind of threat flying over your head. What would you do?
I'd bomb every school, hospital, rehab centre, water facility, power plant, factory, farm, and child I could until there was no more enemy....of course. Perfectly reasonable response.
Funny you referenced Bibi's cartoon of tunnels going into Israeli kindergartens in this thread. Amazing that his flock just eat this shit up.
Isn't that where Hamas has been hiding its weapons?
In Israeli kindergartens? You're getting your self defense and your human shield talking points confused. Bibi's graphic showed terrorists tunnelling into Israeli kindergartens.
Now,now your more clever than that,c'mon man. We both know only Hamas uses that play book.
Read what I wrote. Not sure what you're trying to say. Bibi showed a graphic of terrorists tunneling into Israeli kindergartens.....please direct me to information regarding this occurence. Because as far as I know, it's the leader of a supposedly free and democratic society, making up cartoon excuses for the slaughter of civilians.
Can someone direct me to the right place in the forum.. Were can i open a post in memory of the Israeli brave soliders and civilianze who lost their lives defending the country? I just want to prevent from violeting the terms here. Thanks.
do it on here, but i doubt very seriously that there will be any sympathy for them or the cause they died for on here. i am just being honest with you.
i might bump the rachel corrie thread.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
Im not looking for any sympathy from anyone. Just a little 'corner' in meomory for those who have lost their life defending me from terror attacks. For me. In a plsce that feels like a second 'home' for me. Between you guys. My 10clubmily.
Im not looking for any sympathy from anyone. Just a little 'corner' in meomory for those who have lost their life defending me from terror attacks. For me. In a plsce that feels like a second 'home' for me. Between you guys. My 10clubmily.
Look up the frequency and severity of rocket attacks from Hamas, then look up a timeline of IDF aggression toward gaza. I think you'll find that your military puts you in more danger than it prevents. Cease fires prevent rocket attacks; military actions provoke them.
you can go ahead and post it on the train. you don't need anybody's permission to start threads. i try to make it a point to speak no ill of the dead, so i will not criticize them or their cause in your thread.
since the 2 state solution is pretty much a dead idea, why not just make one thread for the dead of both sides? one thread for the single state? maybe they can at least be united and at peace in death.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
you can go ahead and post it on the train. you don't need anybody's permission to start threads. i try to make it a point to speak no ill of the dead, so i will not criticize them or their cause in your thread.
since the 2 state solution is pretty much a dead idea, why not just make one thread for the dead of both sides? one thread for the single state? maybe they can at least be united and at peace in death.
I find it as a very great idea... Who is helping me?
No. I find it as a legitimate act of defence. The greatest defence is attack. Thats what WE are doing. Attacking those who terrorize us with missiles from Gaza and death tunnels leads into israeli communities close to the border with gaza.
The only thing that is painful for me is seeing the deep sorrow on the faces of the familys that lost their beloved ones on the both sides. In turns me from inside. Allmost 20 days of tears and pain. But we must be strong to end this horror once and for all.
Since Sivan is the only poster I'm aware of that actually is in the middle of this disgusting shit storm,maybe some of you pro Palestinian folks can try to see it thru Sivans eyes.And possibly cut He/she some slack as we are out of harms way while posting and Sivan is not.Sivan has expressed concern and condolence for the same awful deaths of Palestinians you have.Difference is you all haven't reciprocated concern for Israeli injuries or deaths.Healthy debate about the governments or leaders causing this is another story,but a fellow PJ fan is in the middle of this and that should not be forgotten here.
Not true. The entire world supports a return to the 67 borders, the dismantling of the settlements, and an end to occupation/blockade. The US (and recently canada) stand alone in opposing this. The world is trying to stop israel, but the sole superpower won't allow it.
As for Europe....I'll let our euro friends address that. However, I notice you assume no responsibility for the huge role your country plays in creating extremists.
I think this is a reach.This scares the shit out of some countries who think it weakens a anti terror foothold in the region.
Not a stretch. I'm sure you've seen Byrnzie post the results of the UN votes on resolution 242. It is supported by the whole world, except for Canada (recently), the US, and a handful of island nations. Some countries could use a scare. If you're worried about extremists, there is probably a reason for it. Namely, support for Israel's atrocities.
Hams is a terrorist orginazations plain and simple,so don't get caught up in this propaganda saying otherwise.And just because we are all so fond of posting data here is a list of Hamas nice guy activities.If bus bombings,and market and pizza restaurant bombings aren't the same as cowardly terrorism then please enlighten me.I for one ,as a proud American do support Israel and want to help them any way possible dismantle and squash global terror.Heres your list. Read it before blindly following some of this nonsense and anti West,anti American,anti Jewish,anti Israeli nonsense. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Palestinian_suicide_attacks
So you support fighting terrorism with terrorism?
And what do you suggest? How should we fight terror? By sending Hamas/Islamic Jihad/ ISIS 'peace pigeons'?
Let me put it this way.. If ill dig a tunnel that it porpuse is to kill you.. And you are aware to this kind of threat flying over your head. What would you do?
I'd bomb every school, hospital, rehab centre, water facility, power plant, factory, farm, and child I could until there was no more enemy....of course. Perfectly reasonable response.
Funny you referenced Bibi's cartoon of tunnels going into Israeli kindergartens in this thread. Amazing that his flock just eat this shit up.
Isn't that where Hamas has been hiding its weapons?
In Israeli kindergartens? You're getting your self defense and your human shield talking points confused. Bibi's graphic showed terrorists tunnelling into Israeli kindergartens.
Now,now your more clever than that,c'mon man. We both know only Hamas uses that play book.
Read what I wrote. Not sure what you're trying to say. Bibi showed a graphic of terrorists tunneling into Israeli kindergartens.....please direct me to information regarding this occurence. Because as far as I know, it's the leader of a supposedly free and democratic society, making up cartoon excuses for the slaughter of civilians.
I wasn't commenting on the cartoon ,I was commenting on the bombing of schools,hospital rehab centre comment. It's getting tough to keep track I know.Maybe it's a beer break time and refocus for another round later.
No. I find it as a legitimate act of defence. The greatest defence is attack. Thats what WE are doing. Attacking those who terrorize us with missiles from Gaza and death tunnels leads into israeli communities close to the border with gaza.
The only thing that is painful for me is seeing the deep sorrow on the faces of the familys that lost their beloved ones on the both sides. In turns me from inside. Allmost 20 days of tears and pain. But we must be strong to end this horror once and for all.
No. I find it as a legitimate act of defence. -
killing children is not a legitimate act/s of Defense.
No. I find it as a legitimate act of defence. The greatest defence is attack. Thats what WE are doing. Attacking those who terrorize us with missiles from Gaza and death tunnels leads into israeli communities close to the border with gaza.
The only thing that is painful for me is seeing the deep sorrow on the faces of the familys that lost their beloved ones on the both sides. In turns me from inside. Allmost 20 days of tears and pain. But we must be strong to end this horror once and for all.
Since Sivan is the only poster I'm aware of that actually is in the middle of this disgusting shit storm,maybe some of you pro Palestinian folks can try to see it thru Sivans eyes.And possibly cut He/she some slack as we are out of harms way while posting and Sivan is not.Sivan has expressed concern and condolence for the same awful deaths of Palestinians you have.Difference is you all haven't reciprocated concern for Israeli injuries or deaths.Healthy debate about the governments or leaders causing this is another story,but a fellow PJ fan is in the middle of this and that should not be forgotten here.
I'm pro peace , and i'm sorry that i don't see it the way you see it ....I only see humans killing eachother ...
No. I find it as a legitimate act of defence. The greatest defence is attack. Thats what WE are doing. Attacking those who terrorize us with missiles from Gaza and death tunnels leads into israeli communities close to the border with gaza.
The only thing that is painful for me is seeing the deep sorrow on the faces of the familys that lost their beloved ones on the both sides. In turns me from inside. Allmost 20 days of tears and pain. But we must be strong to end this horror once and for all.
No. I find it as a legitimate act of defence. -
killing children is not a legitimate act/s of Defense.
Don't be a hypocrite,Hamas also has blood of children on its hands.Years and years of it.Keep it fair.Also Hamas bombs have also fallen short in this conflict and landed on Gaza soil causing death and injury.War is dirty and nasty.Both sides have fault for innocent death.But don't stand on a soap box like Hamas is innocent they certainly are not.
No. I find it as a legitimate act of defence. The greatest defence is attack. Thats what WE are doing. Attacking those who terrorize us with missiles from Gaza and death tunnels leads into israeli communities close to the border with gaza.
The only thing that is painful for me is seeing the deep sorrow on the faces of the familys that lost their beloved ones on the both sides. In turns me from inside. Allmost 20 days of tears and pain. But we must be strong to end this horror once and for all.
I have two problems with this message, Sivan.
First: "The greatest defence is attack". This is an abhorrent (or, in simpler English terms, disgusting or sick) concept which I've already stated my opinion on: great logic for team sports, less so when you have LIVES to consider.
Second: "end this horror once and for all". I fail to see how this ground invasion leads to any end except for the eventual conclusion that Israel eradicates the entirety of the Palestinian population. With such an intelligent military, it's actually a bit insulting as a member of the public to think that the Israeli government expects me to believe that their tactics can lead to any OTHER end (ie. if you think Hamas leaders in wartime are living in civilian homes in Gaza, ready to have rockets dropped on them or militaries swarm them, think again). In fact, I'd go as far as rephrasing your statement to read that the horror is that there's only one end to this if things continue, and it resides in massive pools of blood.
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No. I find it as a legitimate act of defence. The greatest defence is attack. Thats what WE are doing. Attacking those who terrorize us with missiles from Gaza and death tunnels leads into israeli communities close to the border with gaza.
The only thing that is painful for me is seeing the deep sorrow on the faces of the familys that lost their beloved ones on the both sides. In turns me from inside. Allmost 20 days of tears and pain. But we must be strong to end this horror once and for all.
No. I find it as a legitimate act of defence. -
killing children is not a legitimate act/s of Defense.
Don't be a hypocrite,Hamas also has blood of children on its hands.Years and years of it.Keep it fair.Also Hamas bombs have also fallen short in this conflict and landed on Gaza soil causing death and injury.War is dirty and nasty.Both sides have fault for innocent death.But don't stand on a soap box like Hamas is innocent they certainly are not.
israel starves and malnourishes palestinian children in the blockade.
if you want to go child body count for body count, i promise you that more palestinian children have died than israeli children.
but the fact of this latest round of combat shows, israel is targeting and killing women and children. there is no disputing that.
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Im using my iphone.
No one is stoping Israel.
Is it because the 'hasbara' or the world actually 'is buying this shit'?
Europe feels it from inside. Europe is burning slowlly..
Jihad ideology is bitting europes liberalism.
Reality check - France, England, Belgium..
As for Europe....I'll let our euro friends address that. However, I notice you assume no responsibility for the huge role your country plays in creating extremists.
Lots of great video from the war field.
Were can i open a post in memory of the Israeli brave soliders and civilianze who lost their lives defending the country?
I just want to prevent from violeting the terms here.
Thanks.
We both know only Hamas uses that play book.
I'm still waiting on you to clarify that pornographic dead children on the streets in syria comment you made. Was that just bullshit or did you try to spread MORE propaganda and lies in a different thread? Just curious....
Thanks for worring about me, its heart warming (trully).
Read what I wrote. Not sure what you're trying to say. Bibi showed a graphic of terrorists tunneling into Israeli kindergartens.....please direct me to information regarding this occurence. Because as far as I know, it's the leader of a supposedly free and democratic society, making up cartoon excuses for the slaughter of civilians.
http://mondoweiss.net/2014/07/palestinians-kindergarten-netanyahu.html
betcha there is no civilian attacks/murders on that wonderfully sanitized site....
since there is no video of it, it didn't happen, am i right?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
i might bump the rachel corrie thread.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Just a little 'corner' in meomory for those who have lost their life defending me from terror attacks.
For me. In a plsce that feels like a second 'home' for me. Between you guys.
My 10clubmily.
since the 2 state solution is pretty much a dead idea, why not just make one thread for the dead of both sides? one thread for the single state? maybe they can at least be united and at peace in death.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
Who is helping me?
The greatest defence is attack.
Thats what WE are doing. Attacking those who terrorize us with missiles from Gaza and death tunnels leads into israeli communities close to the border with gaza.
The only thing that is painful for me is seeing the deep sorrow on the faces of the familys that lost their beloved ones on the both sides.
In turns me from inside. Allmost 20 days of tears and pain.
But we must be strong to end this horror once and for all.
It's getting tough to keep track I know.Maybe it's a beer break time and refocus for another round later.
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killing children is not a legitimate act/s of Defense.
First: "The greatest defence is attack". This is an abhorrent (or, in simpler English terms, disgusting or sick) concept which I've already stated my opinion on: great logic for team sports, less so when you have LIVES to consider.
Second: "end this horror once and for all". I fail to see how this ground invasion leads to any end except for the eventual conclusion that Israel eradicates the entirety of the Palestinian population. With such an intelligent military, it's actually a bit insulting as a member of the public to think that the Israeli government expects me to believe that their tactics can lead to any OTHER end (ie. if you think Hamas leaders in wartime are living in civilian homes in Gaza, ready to have rockets dropped on them or militaries swarm them, think again). In fact, I'd go as far as rephrasing your statement to read that the horror is that there's only one end to this if things continue, and it resides in massive pools of blood.
EV
Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
if you want to go child body count for body count, i promise you that more palestinian children have died than israeli children.
but the fact of this latest round of combat shows, israel is targeting and killing women and children. there is no disputing that.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."