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Why does the media do the dance of the 'tards whenever Putin obviously lies? If they make comment on a Putin statement, they should phrase as "Reputed liar, Vladimir Putin states that ... yada, yada, yada.
He has been full of shit for years and no one calls him out.
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Why does the media do the dance of the 'tards whenever Putin obviously lies? If they make comment on a Putin statement, they should phrase as "Reputed liar, Vladimir Putin states that ... yada, yada, yada.
He has been full of shit for years and no one calls him out.
Maybe the President in his upcoming speech @ 11:30am he will call Putin out. If this has Russian hands all over it this situation could lead to some sort of war. Do we now want to go to war with Russia?
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Again, this is a complicated weapon system that requires a co-ordinated effort by a trainned crew to operate. And it is not a weapon that is easily procured in the arms black market. It is either a weapon that was captured from Ukranian Forces or supplied by Russia. But, there is still the need to find a trainned crew to operate and fire it. It is within the realm of possibiliy that Russian Seperatists that were formerly in the Ukranian Armed Forces defected and took the weapon with them. In all cases, it is a scary proposition. We need to try to get to the truth. But, we all know that truth is the first casualty of war.
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Why does the media do the dance of the 'tards whenever Putin obviously lies? If they make comment on a Putin statement, they should phrase as "Reputed liar, Vladimir Putin states that ... yada, yada, yada.
He has been full of shit for years and no one calls him out.
No one calls him out because he's enough of a motherfucker to do all kinds of crazy shit in response. Don't poke the angry tiger kind of thing. :-S
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Why does the media do the dance of the 'tards whenever Putin obviously lies? If they make comment on a Putin statement, they should phrase as "Reputed liar, Vladimir Putin states that ... yada, yada, yada.
He has been full of shit for years and no one calls him out.
No one calls him out because he's enough of a motherfucker to do all kinds of crazy shit in response. Don't poke the angry tiger kind of thing. :-S
Well at least don't poke that said tiger till one has no choice and as a last resort. Therefore, I think that's why we see Obama playing it kool with this tricky situation.
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*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Why does the media do the dance of the 'tards whenever Putin obviously lies? If they make comment on a Putin statement, they should phrase as "Reputed liar, Vladimir Putin states that ... yada, yada, yada.
He has been full of shit for years and no one calls him out.
No one calls him out because he's enough of a motherfucker to do all kinds of crazy shit in response. Don't poke the angry tiger kind of thing. :-S
Well at least don't poke that said tiger till one has no choice and as a last resort. Therefore, I think that's why we see Obama playing it kool with this tricky situation.
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... Putin isn't an angry tiger... he is an egomaniac tiger that is fucking insane. And seriously... what are we supposed to do about this? Send in U.S. Troops? Does anyone other than Senator McCain and Dick Cheney want to go to war... with Russia? So, to all of the people like Rush and Hannity and Palin that say empty shit like, 'WE have to DO something!'... well, what the fuck do they mean? Give us some suggestions... other than 'Something'. Does that something involve U.S. Armed Forces getting in the mix? What? ... Let Russia wallow in their toxic Civil War with the Ukraine.
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Why does the media do the dance of the 'tards whenever Putin obviously lies? If they make comment on a Putin statement, they should phrase as "Reputed liar, Vladimir Putin states that ... yada, yada, yada.
He has been full of shit for years and no one calls him out.
No one calls him out because he's enough of a motherfucker to do all kinds of crazy shit in response. Don't poke the angry tiger kind of thing. :-S
Well at least don't poke that said tiger till one has no choice and as a last resort. Therefore, I think that's why we see Obama playing it kool with this tricky situation.
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... Putin isn't an angry tiger... he is an egomaniac tiger that is fucking insane. And seriously... what are we supposed to do about this? Send in U.S. Troops? Does anyone other than Senator McCain and Dick Cheney want to go to war... with Russia? So, to all of the people like Rush and Hannity and Palin that say empty shit like, 'WE have to DO something!'... well, what the fuck do they mean? Give us some suggestions... other than 'Something'. Does that something involve U.S. Armed Forces getting in the mix? What? ... Let Russia wallow in their toxic Civil War with the Ukraine.
Can you imagine if McCain & Palin were running this country, we would be in countless wars. However, with their suggestions we would show strength by let's say having troops on the ground. To them Obama shows weakness by being cautious, really though they just like to criticize him for every anything he does.
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*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Europe needs to lead, they suffered most of the lives lost. They need to put the screws to Putin, not us. This is their backyard.
If this doesn't get their attention, nothing will.
They need to sober up, instead of being drunk on Putins oil
When Russia's economy gets worse, which it will with certain banking sanctions....we will see how popular he is in Moscow
dont worry, they will ease off putins oil tit in the future as we pollute our water in america to extract dirty oil and gas that will be shipped around the world! I doubt we ever find out for sure who did this, the finger pointing will travel in circles for eternity!
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Europe needs to lead, they suffered most of the lives lost. They need to put the screws to Putin, not us. This is their backyard.
If this doesn't get their attention, nothing will.
They need to sober up, instead of being drunk on Putins oil
When Russia's economy gets worse, which it will with certain banking sanctions....we will see how popular he is in Moscow
dont worry, they will ease off putins oil tit in the future as we pollute our water in america to extract dirty oil and gas that will be shipped around the world! I doubt we ever find out for sure who did this, the finger pointing will travel in circles for eternity!
Putin can and will wait this out especially if those affected European nations do not step up and demand answers from him. However, as we already know from our business in Iraq oil & gas will rule the day in the end.
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*We CAN bomb the World to pieces, but we CAN'T bomb it into PEACE*...Michael Franti
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Europe needs to lead, they suffered most of the lives lost. They need to put the screws to Putin, not us. This is their backyard.
If this doesn't get their attention, nothing will.
They need to sober up, instead of being drunk on Putins oil
When Russia's economy gets worse, which it will with certain banking sanctions....we will see how popular he is in Moscow
dont worry, they will ease off putins oil tit in the future as we pollute our water in america to extract dirty oil and gas that will be shipped around the world! I doubt we ever find out for sure who did this, the finger pointing will travel in circles for eternity!
Putin can and will wait this out especially if those affected European nations do not step up and demand answers from him. However, as we already know from our business in Iraq oil & gas will rule the day in the end.
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Agree. Few dead won't be enough to hurt European money machine as US machine won't stop for few dead US soldiers. Humans have relatively low value course there are billions of us.
" /> Inside of mobile missle launcher.Does it look like backwoods rebels without training could operate?
think you just press the green button, and then move that dial thingy next to the red lever. most of that other stuff is just for the air conditioning system.
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If I opened it now would you not understand?
" /> Inside of mobile missle launcher.Does it look like backwoods rebels without training could operate?
think you just press the green button, and then move that dial thingy next to the red lever. most of that other stuff is just for the air conditioning system.
Europe needs to lead, they suffered most of the lives lost. They need to put the screws to Putin, not us. This is their backyard.
If this doesn't get their attention, nothing will.
They need to sober up, instead of being drunk on Putins oil
When Russia's economy gets worse, which it will with certain banking sanctions....we will see how popular he is in Moscow
i agree. this is a european problem. we can't get involved in every conflict on the planet.
as far as mccain and palin and the right wing radio echo chamber, let them go fight. god knows they are not smart enough to come up with a viable solution on their own. a viable solution would require them to be flexible in their idealogy, and that is not possible. for them, it is easier to be a mindless drone calling for "something" to be done, while criticizing the people who actually have to make an important decision. politics 101.
There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway
Has anyone read anything outside the mainstream on this? There is a lot of fishy shit about this madness. No one in this thread has mentioned Russia's claims that they tracked Ukrainian jets following the plane until 3 minutes before they lost contact? Or the allegations that putin's plane was supposed to be flying that route within minutes of the crash? Or Russia's satellite maps showing a Ukraine surface-air missile system in the area on July 14, and gone on the 17? Or the alleged recording between separatists and Russian military regarding the crash that was circulated having a time signature which implies it was made BEFORE the crash (Dimi did mention some people thought it was fake...if so, whoever made it had foreknowledge). I don't know wtf happened, and I know you guys don't trust Putin (who would, he's a politician)....but think about it. Would it benefit Putin at all to have a hand in this? If he did provide the missiles and personnel to the separatists, with the intent of blaming Ukraine, he would be forced to do something about it...it is not in his interest to escalate tensions with Ukraine. Russian statements regarding their 'evidence' against Ukraine, while direct, have had reconciliatory overtones. Contrast that with west's opportunistic push to further isolate Russia, then consider our recent installation of a puppet government, and the way our media is singing in unison in pointing the finger at Putin....I'm gonna reserve judgement on this. We should also remember that the US shot down an Iranian plane not so long ago, before we go beating war drums and calling for more support for our sanctions against Russia. So fucked up to think that whomever is responsible for this had the intent of framing the other side. I don't see how this could not be categorized as a 'false flag'. Nearly 300 lives lost in the interest of some sick fuck's PR campaign. As if good old fashioned terrorism isn't enough any more.
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some others said its fake..dont know what to believe
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Godfather.
He has been full of shit for years and no one calls him out.
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*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
It is within the realm of possibiliy that Russian Seperatists that were formerly in the Ukranian Armed Forces defected and took the weapon with them.
In all cases, it is a scary proposition. We need to try to get to the truth. But, we all know that truth is the first casualty of war.
Hail, Hail!!!
:-S
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Putin isn't an angry tiger... he is an egomaniac tiger that is fucking insane.
And seriously... what are we supposed to do about this? Send in U.S. Troops? Does anyone other than Senator McCain and Dick Cheney want to go to war... with Russia?
So, to all of the people like Rush and Hannity and Palin that say empty shit like, 'WE have to DO something!'... well, what the fuck do they mean? Give us some suggestions... other than 'Something'. Does that something involve U.S. Armed Forces getting in the mix? What?
...
Let Russia wallow in their toxic Civil War with the Ukraine.
Hail, Hail!!!
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
If this doesn't get their attention, nothing will.
They need to sober up, instead of being drunk on Putins oil
When Russia's economy gets worse, which it will with certain banking sanctions....we will see how popular he is in Moscow
Peace
*MUSIC IS the expression of EMOTION.....and that POLITICS IS merely the DECOY of PERCEPTION*
.....song_Music & Politics....Michael Franti
*The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite INSANE*....Nikola Tesla(a man who shaped our world of electricity with his futuristic inventions)
Inside of mobile missle launcher.Does it look like backwoods rebels without training could operate?
most of that other stuff is just for the air conditioning system.
If I opened it now would you not understand?
as far as mccain and palin and the right wing radio echo chamber, let them go fight. god knows they are not smart enough to come up with a viable solution on their own. a viable solution would require them to be flexible in their idealogy, and that is not possible. for them, it is easier to be a mindless drone calling for "something" to be done, while criticizing the people who actually have to make an important decision. politics 101.
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
No one in this thread has mentioned Russia's claims that they tracked Ukrainian jets following the plane until 3 minutes before they lost contact? Or the allegations that putin's plane was supposed to be flying that route within minutes of the crash? Or Russia's satellite maps showing a Ukraine surface-air missile system in the area on July 14, and gone on the 17? Or the alleged recording between separatists and Russian military regarding the crash that was circulated having a time signature which implies it was made BEFORE the crash (Dimi did mention some people thought it was fake...if so, whoever made it had foreknowledge).
I don't know wtf happened, and I know you guys don't trust Putin (who would, he's a politician)....but think about it. Would it benefit Putin at all to have a hand in this? If he did provide the missiles and personnel to the separatists, with the intent of blaming Ukraine, he would be forced to do something about it...it is not in his interest to escalate tensions with Ukraine. Russian statements regarding their 'evidence' against Ukraine, while direct, have had reconciliatory overtones. Contrast that with west's opportunistic push to further isolate Russia, then consider our recent installation of a puppet government, and the way our media is singing in unison in pointing the finger at Putin....I'm gonna reserve judgement on this. We should also remember that the US shot down an Iranian plane not so long ago, before we go beating war drums and calling for more support for our sanctions against Russia.
So fucked up to think that whomever is responsible for this had the intent of framing the other side. I don't see how this could not be categorized as a 'false flag'. Nearly 300 lives lost in the interest of some sick fuck's PR campaign. As if good old fashioned terrorism isn't enough any more.