I think that is a reasonable statement. They can be easily modified. They make guns that look just like the AR-15, but internally have different components, function differently, hold different calibers and can't be modified easily or hold large magazines. That should be good enough as a "sporting" weapon without the real thing.
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
So I built an AR-15 specifically for hunting wild hogs...not for war...unless you are talking about waging war on those damn 4-legged menaces. I chose that platform as it is lighter weight and easier to carry through the thick brush where I hunt and sometimes those bastards require quick follow up shots (if you've ever been charged by one, you would understand). I'm pretty sure the rifles the military uses are fully automatic and not semi-auto only (like the AR-15). There are many many semi-auto rifles out there in different platforms that fire at the exact same rate as AR-15s and have been used for hunting for years. Oh, I forgot, AR-15s "look scary". I would rather ban the toy replicas that encourage improper safe handling.
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there are more deaths from legal and illegal drugs every year, a gun kills with a loud bang and drugs kill for the most part silently, something to think about while people are protesting guns while they're high on who knows what.
there are more deaths from legal and illegal drugs every year, a gun kills with a loud bang and drugs kill for the most part silently, something to think about while people are protesting guns while they're high on who knows what.
Godfather.
Nobody fears walking into a movie theater and having some guy start tossing cocaine into the air.
there are more deaths from legal and illegal drugs every year, a gun kills with a loud bang and drugs kill for the most part silently, something to think about while people are protesting guns while they're high on who knows what.
Godfather.
Nobody fears walking into a movie theater and having some guy start tossing cocaine into the air.
That's funny, but is a very good point. I know that I wouldn't really have any issue with guns if people only used them to kill themselves by choice.
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enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
I own an ar 15. It s scary because it looks scary. Barely any crimes are committed with this rifle. However when I fire my m1 garand i shit my pants. This one weapon literally killed tens of thousands of nazis, japs, Chinese, North Koreans, nva and Vietcong. I can't imagine being hit by one of those bullets. It is a pure weapon of war. Crazy that everyone wants to ban an ar15 because they look scary but no one ever mentions the garand because they look pretty.
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
By the way, what evidence do you have? I hate to quote the 2nd amendment and all.....and heller....
The circles this thread spins...
Yes, you can quote the 2nd amendment and the heller case. Just as we can say that no gun designed specifically for military use in warfare should be released for public sale. That doesn't infringe upon your right to bear arms. You can still own guns.
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enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
By the way, what evidence do you have? I hate to quote the 2nd amendment and all.....and heller....
The circles this thread spins...
Yes, you can quote the 2nd amendment and the heller case. Just as we can say that no gun designed specifically for military use in warfare should be released for public sale. That doesn't infringe upon your right to bear arms. You can still own guns.
But there are military guns released for public sales. The ar 15 is not one of them. Why go after this gun? It accounts to minuscule deaths..., is it because it s scary looking? Be honest.
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
By the way, what evidence do you have? I hate to quote the 2nd amendment and all.....and heller....
The circles this thread spins...
Yes, you can quote the 2nd amendment and the heller case. Just as we can say that no gun designed specifically for military use in warfare should be released for public sale. That doesn't infringe upon your right to bear arms. You can still own guns.
But there are military guns released for public sales. The ar 15 is not one of them. Why go after this gun? It accounts to minuscule deaths..., is it because it s scary looking? Be honest.
Are you kidding?
You haven't seen enough of its capacity to wreak havoc and death that you're willing to tolerate another f**king elementary school shooting... or movie theatre shooting... or mall shooting as some maniac expresses his rage with it?
Come on Scruffy.
There's simply no need for a weapon like this in the hands of the average, everyday common citizen.
None. Other than to let the average, everyday common citizen have a fancy gun to shoot shit with.
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
By the way, what evidence do you have? I hate to quote the 2nd amendment and all.....and heller....
The circles this thread spins...
Yes, you can quote the 2nd amendment and the heller case. Just as we can say that no gun designed specifically for military use in warfare should be released for public sale. That doesn't infringe upon your right to bear arms. You can still own guns.
But there are military guns released for public sales. The ar 15 is not one of them. Why go after this gun? It accounts to minuscule deaths..., is it because it s scary looking? Be honest.
It's got nothing to do with looks. That's just absurd. Look what that guns did in Sandy hook and tell me it doesn't just tear human flesh to pieces. I don't really care how many deaths it accounts for. It's not designed for civilian use.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself we will find a way, we will find our place
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
I own an ar 15. It s scary because it looks scary. Barely any crimes are committed with this rifle. However when I fire my m1 garand i shit my pants. This one weapon literally killed tens of thousands of nazis, japs, Chinese, North Koreans, nva and Vietcong. I can't imagine being hit by one of those bullets. It is a pure weapon of war. Crazy that everyone wants to ban an ar15 because they look scary but no one ever mentions the garand because they look pretty.
It's not just because it looks scary, you would have a pretty difficult time sneaking a Garand into a movie theater to mow people down indiscriminately, and you wouldn't have a fore grip and huge magazine for greatest terrorist effect either.
there are more deaths from legal and illegal drugs every year, a gun kills with a loud bang and drugs kill for the most part silently, something to think about while people are protesting guns while they're high on who knows what.
Godfather.
Nobody fears walking into a movie theater and having some guy start tossing cocaine into the air.
That's funny, but is a very good point. I know that I wouldn't really have any issue with guns if people only used them to kill themselves by choice.
the number of suicides by gun I believe actually does out-number violent gun deaths, I was just reading some stuff on the interweb that had some pretty interesting facts.
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
By the way, what evidence do you have? I hate to quote the 2nd amendment and all.....and heller....
The circles this thread spins...
Yes, you can quote the 2nd amendment and the heller case. Just as we can say that no gun designed specifically for military use in warfare should be released for public sale. That doesn't infringe upon your right to bear arms. You can still own guns.
But there are military guns released for public sales. The ar 15 is not one of them. Why go after this gun? It accounts to minuscule deaths..., is it because it s scary looking? Be honest.
Are you kidding?
You haven't seen enough of its capacity to wreak havoc and death that you're willing to tolerate another f**king elementary school shooting... or movie theatre shooting... or mall shooting as some maniac expresses his rage with it?
Come on Scruffy.
There's simply no need for a weapon like this in the hands of the average, everyday common citizen.
None. Other than to let the average, everyday common citizen have a fancy gun to shoot shit with.
I do enjoy shooting shit with my fancy gun. When are you coming to the range with me?
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
By the way, what evidence do you have? I hate to quote the 2nd amendment and all.....and heller....
The circles this thread spins...
Yes, you can quote the 2nd amendment and the heller case. Just as we can say that no gun designed specifically for military use in warfare should be released for public sale. That doesn't infringe upon your right to bear arms. You can still own guns.
But there are military guns released for public sales. The ar 15 is not one of them. Why go after this gun? It accounts to minuscule deaths..., is it because it s scary looking? Be honest.
Are you kidding?
You haven't seen enough of its capacity to wreak havoc and death that you're willing to tolerate another f**king elementary school shooting... or movie theatre shooting... or mall shooting as some maniac expresses his rage with it?
Come on Scruffy.
There's simply no need for a weapon like this in the hands of the average, everyday common citizen.
None. Other than to let the average, everyday common citizen have a fancy gun to shoot shit with.
I do enjoy shooting shit with my fancy gun. When are you coming to the range with me?
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
So I built an AR-15 specifically for hunting wild hogs...not for war...unless you are talking about waging war on those damn 4-legged menaces. I chose that platform as it is lighter weight and easier to carry through the thick brush where I hunt and sometimes those bastards require quick follow up shots (if you've ever been charged by one, you would understand). I'm pretty sure the rifles the military uses are fully automatic and not semi-auto only (like the AR-15). There are many many semi-auto rifles out there in different platforms that fire at the exact same rate as AR-15s and have been used for hunting for years. Oh, I forgot, AR-15s "look scary". I would rather ban the toy replicas that encourage improper safe handling.
get a shotgun. In my world you wouldn't have an AR-15
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enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
So I built an AR-15 specifically for hunting wild hogs...not for war...unless you are talking about waging war on those damn 4-legged menaces. I chose that platform as it is lighter weight and easier to carry through the thick brush where I hunt and sometimes those bastards require quick follow up shots (if you've ever been charged by one, you would understand). I'm pretty sure the rifles the military uses are fully automatic and not semi-auto only (like the AR-15). There are many many semi-auto rifles out there in different platforms that fire at the exact same rate as AR-15s and have been used for hunting for years. Oh, I forgot, AR-15s "look scary". I would rather ban the toy replicas that encourage improper safe handling.
get a shotgun. In my world you wouldn't have an AR-15
Lol, shotgun just pisses them off. Even buck shot will sometimes bounce off them. I load my own ammo specifically for the game I'm hunting... Just like I would not use a rifle for quail, I don't use a shotgun for wild pigs.
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
By the way, what evidence do you have? I hate to quote the 2nd amendment and all.....and heller....
The circles this thread spins...
Yes, you can quote the 2nd amendment and the heller case. Just as we can say that no gun designed specifically for military use in warfare should be released for public sale. That doesn't infringe upon your right to bear arms. You can still own guns.
But there are military guns released for public sales. The ar 15 is not one of them. Why go after this gun? It accounts to minuscule deaths..., is it because it s scary looking? Be honest.
Because it's an assault weapon. The maker even states that it shouldn't be for public use or sale.
You disagree....that's fine.
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enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
So I built an AR-15 specifically for hunting wild hogs...not for war...unless you are talking about waging war on those damn 4-legged menaces. I chose that platform as it is lighter weight and easier to carry through the thick brush where I hunt and sometimes those bastards require quick follow up shots (if you've ever been charged by one, you would understand). I'm pretty sure the rifles the military uses are fully automatic and not semi-auto only (like the AR-15). There are many many semi-auto rifles out there in different platforms that fire at the exact same rate as AR-15s and have been used for hunting for years. Oh, I forgot, AR-15s "look scary". I would rather ban the toy replicas that encourage improper safe handling.
get a shotgun. In my world you wouldn't have an AR-15
Lol, shotgun just pisses them off. Even buck shot will sometimes bounce off them. I load my own ammo specifically for the game I'm hunting... Just like I would not use a rifle for quail, I don't use a shotgun for wild pigs.
I d love to go hog hunting again. Is texas really over run by then?
enough evidence for what? To ban the AR-15 or ban all guns?
enough evidence to support that civilians shouldn't be able to buy AR-15s.
It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
By the way, what evidence do you have? I hate to quote the 2nd amendment and all.....and heller....
The circles this thread spins...
Yes, you can quote the 2nd amendment and the heller case. Just as we can say that no gun designed specifically for military use in warfare should be released for public sale. That doesn't infringe upon your right to bear arms. You can still own guns.
But there are military guns released for public sales. The ar 15 is not one of them. Why go after this gun? It accounts to minuscule deaths..., is it because it s scary looking? Be honest.
Are you kidding?
You haven't seen enough of its capacity to wreak havoc and death that you're willing to tolerate another f**king elementary school shooting... or movie theatre shooting... or mall shooting as some maniac expresses his rage with it?
Come on Scruffy.
There's simply no need for a weapon like this in the hands of the average, everyday common citizen.
None. Other than to let the average, everyday common citizen have a fancy gun to shoot shit with.
I do enjoy shooting shit with my fancy gun. When are you coming to the range with me?
Lol
As soon as I can get my ass down there.
I still don't get how you chose hawaii over New Jersey. I was actually insulted.
I saw a real AK47 or what ever you call it at a gun shop for $26,000 and was told that the real ones are very hard to get ahold of and the people that have them wont sell them easily, have any of you heard of this ?
I don't know what he means by "real"? The first generation created by the Russians in the late 40s? Even then I doubt it is near that much. They are cheap because millions have been made, how else would so many small arms rebels around the world get such a supply of them? I believe it's one of the most, if not the most manufactured gun world wide.
I don't know what he means by "real"? The first generation created by the Russians in the late 40s? Even then I doubt it is near that much. They are cheap because millions have been made, how else would so many small arms rebels around the world get such a supply of them? I believe it's one of the most, if not the most manufactured gun world wide.
ummmmmm I'm sorry maybe it was another rifle, but there was no mistaking the price tag and it was that kind of rifle I was looking at, forgive my weapons ignorance I was just curious if you had seen or heard such a thing.
I don't know what he means by "real"? The first generation created by the Russians in the late 40s? Even then I doubt it is near that much. They are cheap because millions have been made, how else would so many small arms rebels around the world get such a supply of them? I believe it's one of the most, if not the most manufactured gun world wide.
ummmmmm I'm sorry maybe it was another rifle, but there was no mistaking the price tag and it was that kind of rifle I was looking at, forgive my weapons ignorance I was just curious if you had seen or heard such a thing.
Godfather.
Probably a stg 44. It s an assault weapon made by the nazis in ww2. I m saving up for the .22 lr version. Sick gun.
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It's being sold as a "sporting" weapon...it's not. It's an assault weapon built for war.
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They make guns that look just like the AR-15, but internally have different components, function differently, hold different calibers and can't be modified easily or hold large magazines. That should be good enough as a "sporting" weapon without the real thing.
I'm pretty sure the rifles the military uses are fully automatic and not semi-auto only (like the AR-15).
There are many many semi-auto rifles out there in different platforms that fire at the exact same rate as AR-15s and have been used for hunting for years. Oh, I forgot, AR-15s "look scary".
I would rather ban the toy replicas that encourage improper safe handling.
It’s justice and it’s also awareness,” Brandon Holt’s mother added. “I just want everyone to know — just lock up your guns. Just lock up your guns.”
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Godfather.
That's funny, but is a very good point.
I know that I wouldn't really have any issue with guns if people only used them to kill themselves by choice.
Also the add on to make the weapon automatic is a felony. Why a legal gun owner would do that is beyond me.
However when I fire my m1 garand i shit my pants. This one weapon literally killed tens of thousands of nazis, japs, Chinese, North Koreans, nva and Vietcong. I can't imagine being hit by one of those bullets. It is a pure weapon of war. Crazy that everyone wants to ban an ar15 because they look scary but no one ever mentions the garand because they look pretty.
Yes, you can quote the 2nd amendment and the heller case. Just as we can say that no gun designed specifically for military use in warfare should be released for public sale. That doesn't infringe upon your right to bear arms. You can still own guns.
we will find a way, we will find our place
You haven't seen enough of its capacity to wreak havoc and death that you're willing to tolerate another f**king elementary school shooting... or movie theatre shooting... or mall shooting as some maniac expresses his rage with it?
Come on Scruffy.
There's simply no need for a weapon like this in the hands of the average, everyday common citizen.
None. Other than to let the average, everyday common citizen have a fancy gun to shoot shit with.
we will find a way, we will find our place
Godfather.
As soon as I can get my ass down there.
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2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
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So why is the modded stock even available?
At least by banning the weapon we make it more difficult to obtain.
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You disagree....that's fine.
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2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
Godfather.
Godfather.