America's Gun Violence

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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    There was a terrorist on the cover of Rolling Stone??
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,162
    PJ_Soul said:

    There was a terrorist on the cover of Rolling Stone??

    The Boston Marathon Bomber.
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694
    dudeman said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    There was a terrorist on the cover of Rolling Stone??

    The Boston Marathon Bomber.
    Well that's stupid.
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  • dudeman
    dudeman Posts: 3,162
    Anything to sell copies. That's the American way.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,521
    PJ_Soul said:

    dudeman said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    There was a terrorist on the cover of Rolling Stone??

    The Boston Marathon Bomber.
    Well that's stupid.
    holy shit. I didn't know that. just reinforces my previous position of stop making these fucking guys famous.

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  • PJ_Soul said:

    dudeman said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    There was a terrorist on the cover of Rolling Stone??

    The Boston Marathon Bomber.
    Well that's stupid.
    holy shit. I didn't know that. just reinforces my previous position of stop making these fucking guys famous.

    If I recall correctly... they kind of made him appear like Jim Morrison.
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  • u got into a fight..or u hate someone..the blood is under your head..
    and in the moment,,u say..ill kill the son of the bitch....and u go home and take your gun which u have cos its legal..and easy to find..and return and u shoot the asshole..
    thats one scenario
    let take another scenario..

    u got into a fight..or u hate someone..the blood is under your head..
    and in the moment,,u say..ill kill the son of the bitch....and u go home ..and u dont have any gun..,and u cant find one,,and u dotn have money to buy one.and u are not allowed to buy one.,.and u start thinking..where to find a gun..?what to do?and if they caugh me with illigal gun before i shoot him??
    let take a moment..lets think about it...
    thats exactly the time u may need to cool things off and u not become a murderer
    was a fuckin bad moment,.lets cool itr off,,lets forget the asshole..lets calm..,no need to be fatal...
    maybe a few lifes would be saved ..just cos someone didnt have access to any gun at the heat of the moment..
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  • BS44325
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    PJ_Soul said:

    dudeman said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    There was a terrorist on the cover of Rolling Stone??

    The Boston Marathon Bomber.
    Well that's stupid.
    holy shit. I didn't know that. just reinforces my previous position of stop making these fucking guys famous.

    If I recall correctly... they kind of made him appear like Jim Morrison.
    Yes. They made him out to be a sex symbol.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694

    u got into a fight..or u hate someone..the blood is under your head..
    and in the moment,,u say..ill kill the son of the bitch....and u go home and take your gun which u have cos its legal..and easy to find..and return and u shoot the asshole..
    thats one scenario
    let take another scenario..

    u got into a fight..or u hate someone..the blood is under your head..
    and in the moment,,u say..ill kill the son of the bitch....and u go home ..and u dont have any gun..,and u cant find one,,and u dotn have money to buy one.and u are not allowed to buy one.,.and u start thinking..where to find a gun..?what to do?and if they caugh me with illigal gun before i shoot him??
    let take a moment..lets think about it...
    thats exactly the time u may need to cool things off and u not become a murderer
    was a fuckin bad moment,.lets cool itr off,,lets forget the asshole..lets calm..,no need to be fatal...
    maybe a few lifes would be saved ..just cos someone didnt have access to any gun at the heat of the moment..

    Yes, agreed. Heat of the moment shootings would definitely go way down if fewer people had guns.
    (although that doesn't seem like the case in this particular shooting. The man went home and got his wife, and they both dressed up in combat gear. They had also dropped off their kid with family earlier in the day. That isn't behaviour that they thought of spur of the moment!)
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  • callen
    callen Posts: 6,388
    Remember getting copy of rolling stone(got couple issues free for ordering from place) and saw dick on cover. Happen to be trash day and threw directly in trash can.

    Think how CNN and Fox are profiting from terrorism.

    Wonder if we should ignore these events. 24 hour news sure has helped the terrorists. Have police hunt them down but brief mention.
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  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,007
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dudeman said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    There was a terrorist on the cover of Rolling Stone??

    The Boston Marathon Bomber.
    Well that's stupid.
    holy shit. I didn't know that. just reinforces my previous position of stop making these fucking guys famous.

    If I recall correctly... they kind of made him appear like Jim Morrison.
    Yes. They made him out to be a sex symbol.
    I cancelled my subscription right after receiving that issue.
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  • u got into a fight..or u hate someone..the blood is under your head..
    and in the moment,,u say..ill kill the son of the bitch....and u go home and take your gun which u have cos its legal..and easy to find..and return and u shoot the asshole..
    thats one scenario
    let take another scenario..

    u got into a fight..or u hate someone..the blood is under your head..
    and in the moment,,u say..ill kill the son of the bitch....and u go home ..and u dont have any gun..,and u cant find one,,and u dotn have money to buy one.and u are not allowed to buy one.,.and u start thinking..where to find a gun..?what to do?and if they caugh me with illigal gun before i shoot him??
    let take a moment..lets think about it...
    thats exactly the time u may need to cool things off and u not become a murderer
    was a fuckin bad moment,.lets cool itr off,,lets forget the asshole..lets calm..,no need to be fatal...
    maybe a few lifes would be saved ..just cos someone didnt have access to any gun at the heat of the moment..

    They had PLENTY of time to plant the 3 bomb/IED's that didn't go off or the stash of them that were in their house.

    They must have been angry for a while then...
  • PP193448
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    dudeman said:

    Anything to sell copies. That's the American way.

    I think you meant the greedy corporate way. I'd bet there are similar greedy corporate fuckers outside America too...
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  • ldent42
    ldent42 NYC Posts: 7,859
    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/56608755e4b08e945fee73e5
    Regardless, the amendment meant to improve funding for services treating mental illness and substance abuse disorders failed in a 47-52 vote. The measure blocking individuals suspected of terrorism from purchasing guns and explosives failed 45-54. In what was primarily a party-line vote, a couple of senators defected. Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (D-N.D.) voted with Republicans against the amendment, while Sen. Mark Kirk (R-Ill.) joined Democrats in supporting it.
    The final gun control-related measure pushed by Democrats failed in a 48-50 vote. The amendment, offered by Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.), would have expanded background checks for people purchasing firearms at gun shows and on the Internet. It was the same bill Manchin introduced with Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) in 2013 in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting. Four Republicans, including Toomey, joined Democrats in voting for the measure on Thursday: Sens. Susan Collins (R-Maine), John McCain (R-Ariz.), and Mark Kirk (R-Ill.). Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) didn't vote.
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  • PP193448
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    edited December 2015
    Umm last I renewed all I needed was the fee, good hearing, and good eyesight to get my new drivers license. You only have to prove your driving skills when you're 16. That's why we have 80 year olds running people over "accidentally" hitting the gas instead of the brake... No skills review. Why not have driving tests every 5-10 years or something??
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  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,694

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dudeman said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    There was a terrorist on the cover of Rolling Stone??

    The Boston Marathon Bomber.
    Well that's stupid.
    holy shit. I didn't know that. just reinforces my previous position of stop making these fucking guys famous.

    If I recall correctly... they kind of made him appear like Jim Morrison.
    Yes. They made him out to be a sex symbol.
    I cancelled my subscription right after receiving that issue.
    Kay, I looked up the cover... It is really really wring that they put the guy on the cover, but sex symbol? Jim Morrison? Huh? It's just a photo of a guy who has longish curly hair.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    dudeman said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    There was a terrorist on the cover of Rolling Stone??

    The Boston Marathon Bomber.
    Well that's stupid.
    holy shit. I didn't know that. just reinforces my previous position of stop making these fucking guys famous.

    If I recall correctly... they kind of made him appear like Jim Morrison.
    Yes. They made him out to be a sex symbol.
    I cancelled my subscription right after receiving that issue.
    Kay, I looked up the cover... It is really really wring that they put the guy on the cover, but sex symbol? Jim Morrison? Huh? It's just a photo of a guy who has longish curly hair.
    Glamorizing a mass murderer? Yes... it's morally wrong. They can do it to sell their rag... but if people choose not to buy it or cancel their subscription... that's their right as a consumer.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?_r=1

    How They Got Their Guns

    The guns used in 15 recent mass shootings, including the attack in San Bernardino, were bought legally. At least eight gunmen had criminal histories or documented mental health problems that did not prevent them from obtaining their weapons.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    dignin said:

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/10/03/us/how-mass-shooters-got-their-guns.html?_r=1

    How They Got Their Guns

    The guns used in 15 recent mass shootings, including the attack in San Bernardino, were bought legally. At least eight gunmen had criminal histories or documented mental health problems that did not prevent them from obtaining their weapons.

    This is clearly a major problem and there should absolutely be legislation to stop it. A big issue now though is medical records privacy etc. Our society has really moved to a place where we try not to label people with mental health issues in a negative way. I believe the pendulum has swung to far in that direction and there has to be a reasonable way to prevent gun sales to this population.
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