America's Gun Violence

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  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited December 2015
    Cliffy6745 said:


    BS44325 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    If this was done by Islamists will you wish horrible horrible deaths on all of them as well?
    On all of who? The gun lobby is directly responsible for thousands of deaths, regardless of the race/religion of these people
    Well if your only concern is going after the gun lobby as opposed to the perpetrators and their ideology (whatever that might be) then attacks like these will always continue. As you said "we will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again".
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,930
    josevolution said:

    21st mass shooting in this country this year alone , mass shooting consist of 4 or more victims ....

    yet the only thing people protest are when cops shoot and kill black men, most who are career criminals. doesn't make a lot of sense. in fact makes as little sense as the NRA and gun lobby's stance on automatic weapons and high powered rifles.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    BS44325 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:


    BS44325 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    If this was done by Islamists will you wish horrible horrible deaths on all of them as well?
    On all of who? The gun lobby is directly responsible for thousands of deaths, regardless of the race/religion of these people
    Well if your only concern is going after the gun lobby as opposed to the perpetrators and their ideology (whatever that might be) then attacks like these will always continue. As you said "we will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again".
    obviously a fair point but that's obviously not the only concern. They are just the ones directly responsible for guns getting into the hands of many of these lunatics
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    edited December 2015
    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It's not a solution because there will be more idiots to replace them, but I do think people who are fine with and essentially work for lunatics getting guns deserve some serious shit
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,686
    pjhawks said:

    josevolution said:

    21st mass shooting in this country this year alone , mass shooting consist of 4 or more victims ....

    yet the only thing people protest are when cops shoot and kill black men, most who are career criminals. doesn't make a lot of sense. in fact makes as little sense as the NRA and gun lobby's stance on automatic weapons and high powered rifles.
    I totally agree ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528

    The cognitive dissonance on the right is truly astounding.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    Not saying my opinion is right or even mildly rational, it just infuriates me that people actively work to put guns in insane people's hands. They have put so many people through hell so gun manufacturers can make a buck.

    These people are literally contributing to domestic terrorism.
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    Cliffy6745 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    Not saying my opinion is right or even mildly rational, it just infuriates me that people actively work to put guns in insane people's hands. They have put so many people through hell so gun manufacturers can make a buck.

    These people are literally contributing to domestic terrorism.
    They are complicit
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    Because people have double standards.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Smellyman
    Smellyman Asia Posts: 4,528
    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    That is actually said quite a bit by those on the right.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Cliffy6745 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    Not saying my opinion is right or even mildly rational, it just infuriates me that people actively work to put guns in insane people's hands. They have put so many people through hell so gun manufacturers can make a buck.

    These people are literally contributing to domestic terrorism.
    I get that you're angry with gun violence but it is starting to look like these perpetrators were very sane. It's looking very planned and coordinated. Let's also not forget that in the end it was guns that brought these criminals down.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Smellyman said:

    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    That is actually said quite a bit by those on the right.
    Here on this forum? Where?
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Smellyman said:

    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    That is actually said quite a bit by those on the right.
    No actually...it isn't.
  • Cliffy6745
    Cliffy6745 Posts: 34,029
    BS44325 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    Not saying my opinion is right or even mildly rational, it just infuriates me that people actively work to put guns in insane people's hands. They have put so many people through hell so gun manufacturers can make a buck.

    These people are literally contributing to domestic terrorism.
    I get that you're angry with gun violence but it is starting to look like these perpetrators were very sane. It's looking very planned and coordinated. Let's also not forget that in the end it was guns that brought these criminals down.
    Sane people do not walk into a crowded room with assault rifles and murder anything moving. And it makes it so much worse if they are "sane"
  • jnimhaoileoin
    jnimhaoileoin Baile Átha Cliath Posts: 2,682
    Equating people involved in Planned Parenthood with pro-gun lobbyists is rather ridiculous...
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    Cliffy6745 said:

    BS44325 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    Not saying my opinion is right or even mildly rational, it just infuriates me that people actively work to put guns in insane people's hands. They have put so many people through hell so gun manufacturers can make a buck.

    These people are literally contributing to domestic terrorism.
    I get that you're angry with gun violence but it is starting to look like these perpetrators were very sane. It's looking very planned and coordinated. Let's also not forget that in the end it was guns that brought these criminals down.
    Sane people do not walk into a crowded room with assault rifles and murder anything moving. And it makes it so much worse if they are "sane"
    Yes they do. You might think someone's ideology is "crazy" but that doesn't make their actions legally insane. The Paris attackers would not be considered "insane" by any legal definition and neither would the San Bernandino killers.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,130
    Cliffy6745 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mcgruff10 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Cliffy6745 said:

    Remember when elementary school kids got mowed down at school and nothing ever happened? Yeah, me too.

    We will be outraged, we will mourn, we will talk about action, we will move on and then it will happen again.

    I wish horrible horrible deaths on everyone involved with the gun lobby. I am sure this will go over very well with many but the lobby has so much blood on their hands.

    So if I read this right you don't like the gun lobby?
    You are correct.
    So your solution to end senseless killing is wish horrible deaths on all involved in the gun lobby?
    It really is outrageous. It wouldn't be ok if someone said "planned parenthood has a lot of blood on their hands so I wish horrible horrible deaths on they're employees" so I'm not sure why this is ok.
    Not saying my opinion is right or even mildly rational, it just infuriates me that people actively work to put guns in insane people's hands. They have put so many people through hell so gun manufacturers can make a buck.

    These people are literally contributing to domestic terrorism.
    Oh get off your high horse and get real. These people are trying to make a living just like everyone else. What people do with their product is not their fault. No one in the gun industry is actively trying to put guns in insane people s hands or trying to contribute in any way to domestic terrorism. That s like saying the alcohol industry is willingly putting liquor in the hands of drunk drivers and contributing to the 10,000 deaths a year because of drunk driving accidents
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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