America's Gun Violence

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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen anything too crazy with regard to people taking to the streets with guns yet. Still, there is no shortage of concern that people will become more violent toward one another before restrictions are lifted. 

    Is anyone seeing people out and about openly carrying or threatening others with guns?
    I was wondering since everyone is on lockdown, how the murder rates went down or not?  They might go up though if you have a budding couple that is too close for too long?
    In 9 months the birthrate will skyrocket with "Coronials" being born.
    The divorce rate will also skyrocket!
    And when they become teenagers they will be called "Quarantines"...
    I like “Coronials” more.
    My line killed, you suck...

    What if I spelled "Quaran-teens"?
    Ha, that’s better. Sorry to steal your thunder
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    dudeman said:
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen anything too crazy with regard to people taking to the streets with guns yet. Still, there is no shortage of concern that people will become more violent toward one another before restrictions are lifted. 

    Is anyone seeing people out and about openly carrying or threatening others with guns?
    I was wondering since everyone is on lockdown, how the murder rates went down or not?  They might go up though if you have a budding couple that is too close for too long?
    People definitely have been busy buying guns and ammo. The few online retailers that I checked are sold out of most handgun calibers and the more popular rifle and shotgun loads. Yet to be determined what is going to come of that. 

    The limited dealings I have had with locals have been largely positive and there is a sense of community that isn't always apparent. People want to help. 

    Acts of violence seem to be pretty low on the priority list around here. I hope that continues to be the case and people can emerge from all of this with more respect for life. 
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen anything too crazy with regard to people taking to the streets with guns yet. Still, there is no shortage of concern that people will become more violent toward one another before restrictions are lifted. 

    Is anyone seeing people out and about openly carrying or threatening others with guns?
    I was wondering since everyone is on lockdown, how the murder rates went down or not?  They might go up though if you have a budding couple that is too close for too long?
    NYC with more covid deaths than murders.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/coronavirus-new-york-city-crime/2020/03/26/6a408e94-6f9a-11ea-a3ec-70d7479d83f0_story.html
    I forgot to mention that the cops are being told NOT to arrest people.  Don't fill up the jails if you don't have to is what they are being told.

    So by all means, please go and cause crime, you're good on this!
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,482
    I guess with all those gun and ammo purchases you might as well spend your gubmint check protecting yourself?


    $80 for a vest isn't bad!  Might have to pick one up.  TY
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    Gearing up, hunkering down.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,353
    dudeman said:
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen anything too crazy with regard to people taking to the streets with guns yet. Still, there is no shortage of concern that people will become more violent toward one another before restrictions are lifted. 

    Is anyone seeing people out and about openly carrying or threatening others with guns?
    I was wondering since everyone is on lockdown, how the murder rates went down or not?  They might go up though if you have a budding couple that is too close for too long?
    People definitely have been busy buying guns and ammo. The few online retailers that I checked are sold out of most handgun calibers and the more popular rifle and shotgun loads. Yet to be determined what is going to come of that. 

    The limited dealings I have had with locals have been largely positive and there is a sense of community that isn't always apparent. People want to help. 

    Acts of violence seem to be pretty low on the priority list around here. I hope that continues to be the case and people can emerge from all of this with more respect for life. 
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen anything too crazy with regard to people taking to the streets with guns yet. Still, there is no shortage of concern that people will become more violent toward one another before restrictions are lifted. 

    Is anyone seeing people out and about openly carrying or threatening others with guns?
    I was wondering since everyone is on lockdown, how the murder rates went down or not?  They might go up though if you have a budding couple that is too close for too long?
    NYC with more covid deaths than murders.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/coronavirus-new-york-city-crime/2020/03/26/6a408e94-6f9a-11ea-a3ec-70d7479d83f0_story.html
    I forgot to mention that the cops are being told NOT to arrest people.  Don't fill up the jails if you don't have to is what they are being told.

    So by all means, please go and cause crime, you're good on this!
    Careful, when I posted this same info I was told I was a right wing nut trying to spread fear in the wake of a pandemic  unless I could provide personal memos leaked from the sheriff’s dept.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    mace1229 said:
    dudeman said:
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen anything too crazy with regard to people taking to the streets with guns yet. Still, there is no shortage of concern that people will become more violent toward one another before restrictions are lifted. 

    Is anyone seeing people out and about openly carrying or threatening others with guns?
    I was wondering since everyone is on lockdown, how the murder rates went down or not?  They might go up though if you have a budding couple that is too close for too long?
    People definitely have been busy buying guns and ammo. The few online retailers that I checked are sold out of most handgun calibers and the more popular rifle and shotgun loads. Yet to be determined what is going to come of that. 

    The limited dealings I have had with locals have been largely positive and there is a sense of community that isn't always apparent. People want to help. 

    Acts of violence seem to be pretty low on the priority list around here. I hope that continues to be the case and people can emerge from all of this with more respect for life. 
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen anything too crazy with regard to people taking to the streets with guns yet. Still, there is no shortage of concern that people will become more violent toward one another before restrictions are lifted. 

    Is anyone seeing people out and about openly carrying or threatening others with guns?
    I was wondering since everyone is on lockdown, how the murder rates went down or not?  They might go up though if you have a budding couple that is too close for too long?
    NYC with more covid deaths than murders.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/coronavirus-new-york-city-crime/2020/03/26/6a408e94-6f9a-11ea-a3ec-70d7479d83f0_story.html
    I forgot to mention that the cops are being told NOT to arrest people.  Don't fill up the jails if you don't have to is what they are being told.

    So by all means, please go and cause crime, you're good on this!
    Careful, when I posted this same info I was told I was a right wing nut trying to spread fear in the wake of a pandemic  unless I could provide personal memos leaked from the sheriff’s dept.
    Really?   

    Show them this then...
    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/u-s-police-shift-priorities-as-novel-coronavirus-crisis-grows
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    Smells like a bunch of Trump supporters in here.
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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Nuance lost again, it seems. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    dudeman said:
    Smells like a bunch of Trump supporters in here.
    Nah man, that's just your upper lip.
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    Dammit! I should have known that would happen if I waxed my ironic handlebar moustache with MAGA-brand wax.

    I'll go eat some Ben and Jerry's to compensate. 
    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    dudeman said:
    Dammit! I should have known that would happen if I waxed my ironic handlebar moustache with MAGA-brand wax.

    I'll go eat some Ben and Jerry's to compensate. 
    It's a shame that a handlebar mustache is associated with MAGA now.  I really wanted to grow one but if that's what gets branded w it then no.

    I might fight to take back the handlebar though.  I'll give Rollie Fingers a call and start a movement.
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    dudeman said:
    Dammit! I should have known that would happen if I waxed my ironic handlebar moustache with MAGA-brand wax.

    I'll go eat some Ben and Jerry's to compensate. 
    It's a shame that a handlebar mustache is associated with MAGA now.  I really wanted to grow one but if that's what gets branded w it then no.

    I might fight to take back the handlebar though.  I'll give Rollie Fingers a call and start a movement.
    LOL!
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  • https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,664
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    Madam Schadenfreude
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    mrussel1 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    Madam Schadenfreude
    Wondering if someone else posted this you'd have posted the same response?

    I get why, but still curious.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,664
    mrussel1 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    Madam Schadenfreude
    Wondering if someone else posted this you'd have posted the same response?

    I get why, but still curious.
    I'll revel in Trump's misery, but no one else's. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,971
    “Few better liberty machines than an AR15.”

    https://apple.news/AqCca70YySr6zdGHBxx2SyA

    For fucks sake, get some brass balls for your trailer hitch and call it a day. Yee haw, Murica!
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  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    There are a lot of people in Chicago. 

    You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    “Few better liberty machines than an AR15.”

    https://apple.news/AqCca70YySr6zdGHBxx2SyA

    For fucks sake, get some brass balls for your trailer hitch and call it a day. Yee haw, Murica!
    Brass is expensive, I went with Aluminum.
  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    CM189191 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    There are a lot of people in Chicago. 

    You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
    Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?
    https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/
  • lindamarie73lindamarie73 Posts: 417
    edited April 2020
    Those Evil no good Guns killin again during a 24hr stretch during this shelter and place Pandemic.....Chicago Values for ya...I hope they keep those evil guns out of my families neighborhood.  

    https://abc7chicago.com/21-shot-7-fatally-tuesday-in-chicago/6086110/
    Post edited by lindamarie73 on
  • dudemandudeman Posts: 3,060
    Guns = Bad? White people = Bad?
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,350
    dudeman said:
    Guns = Bad? White people = Bad?
    Not all white people are bad.  I'm not particularly fond of the ones that go to rally's though...
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    There are a lot of people in Chicago. 

    You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
    Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?
    https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/

    So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides?  You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).


    The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
    https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf
    • compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
    • Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents

    Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015. 

    https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/

    • At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
    • The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    There are a lot of people in Chicago. 

    You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
    Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?
    https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/

    So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides?  You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).


    The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
    https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf
    • compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
    • Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents

    Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015. 

    https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/

    • At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
    • The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
    Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?


  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    There are a lot of people in Chicago. 

    You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
    Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?
    https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/

    So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides?  You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).


    The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
    https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf
    • compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
    • Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents

    Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015. 

    https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/

    • At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
    • The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
    Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?


    Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.

    You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.  

    Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.  

    It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area.  Sensationalism gets clicks.
  • lindamarie73lindamarie73 Posts: 417
    edited April 2020
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    There are a lot of people in Chicago. 

    You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
    Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?
    https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/

    So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides?  You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).


    The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
    https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf
    • compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
    • Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents

    Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015. 

    https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/

    • At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
    • The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
    Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?


    Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.

    You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.  

    Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.  

    It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area.  Sensationalism gets clicks.
    10 million people in Chicago metro ???  Boy, I would love to see some pretty scientific graph on that Stat....people are leaving that rotten brain infested city and state in droves....
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  • FiveBelowFiveBelow Posts: 1,288
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    There are a lot of people in Chicago. 

    You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
    Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?
    https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/

    So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides?  You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).


    The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
    https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf
    • compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
    • Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents

    Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015. 

    https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/

    • At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
    • The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
    Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?


    Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.

    You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.  

    Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.  

    It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area.  Sensationalism gets clicks.
    All I am asking for on my third attempt time is:
    Where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living? Are you worried you are going to upset someone because of your typical stereotyping approach?
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    There are a lot of people in Chicago. 

    You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
    Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?
    https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/

    So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides?  You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).


    The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
    https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf
    • compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
    • Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents

    Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015. 

    https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/

    • At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
    • The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
    Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?


    Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.

    You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.  

    Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.  

    It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area.  Sensationalism gets clicks.
    10 million people in Chicago metro ???  Boy, I would love to see some pretty scientific graph on that Stat....people are leaving that rotten brain infested city and state in droves....
    Here you go, I rounded up
    https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_metropolitan_area
    The population is about 9.5 million people and CSA population of 9.9 million people

    Most of the people leaving are useless elderly retiring in AZ or FL who really bring no value to Illinois economic engine anyways.
  • CM189191CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    https://chicago.suntimes.com/crime/2020/3/30/21197864/chicago-weekend-shootings-homicide-gun-violence-march-27-30

    Even a Pandemic can’t stop those dam guns from killing people in Chicago.  Those numbers are considered good for a weekend of “gun” violence in Chicago.  
    There are a lot of people in Chicago. 

    You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America.
    Feel free to explore the gun violence map for the last 6 years in the link below. I’m curious where you would consider all the “rural white pillbilly Americans” living. Seems like you are more likely to get shot in non rural areas where you know, Americans live. In the event that you were to be fatally shot, 60% of the time it would have been yourself pulling the trigger since suicide accounts for that percentage of gun related deaths. Did you get your information from some guy on Twitter again?
    https://www.thetrace.org/features/gun-violence-interactive-shootings-map/

    So only homicides count as gun violence, but not accidents or suicides?  You're still more likely to be shot in rural white pillbilly America (no qualifiers).


    The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine
    https://www.jabfm.org/content/jabfp/14/2/107.full.pdf
    • compared with urban areas, rural areas have (1) a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles, and (2) a higher percentage of gun deaths from suicides and accidents
    • Results: Compared with urban settings, rural areas had a higher percentage of gun deaths from shotguns and rifles and a higher percentage from suicides and accidents

    Researchers at UC Davis’ Violence Prevention Research Program evaluated more than 50,000 firearm deaths – both homicides and suicides – recorded in California counties between 2000 and 2015. 

    https://www.calhealthreport.org/2018/04/24/gun-violence-increasingly-rural-problem-study-finds/

    • At the start of the study, firearm homicide was largely an urban problem, the researchers found. But by 2015, gun murders in urban areas had dropped, resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties.
    • The study also detected a slight uptick in suicide rates by gun since 2000, mirroring national trends. These suicides were concentrated in rural areas and among whites
    Did you explore the map I provided? If you did, you should have noticed that accidental is included. I added the bit about suicides on my own because they should not be ignored when speaking of gun violence, but suicides do not help your stance since it takes others doing the shooting out of the equation. Your evidence only speaks of shotguns and rifles in exhibit "A", are those the only guns we have in this country? Handguns are the most to blame when it comes to gun violence, I've included a graph below for you from the FBI. Exhibit "B" is a study for the state of California only and clearly states "resulting in similar rates in both urban and rural counties." Again I ask, where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living who are more likely to shoot you?


    Not sure why this is so difficult to grasp.

    You are more likely to die from gun violence in rural America than in the city.  

    Gun suicides, accidental deaths, and homicides happen at a higher rate per capita in rural areas.  

    It's easy to pick on Chicago because there's nearly 10 million in the metro area.  Sensationalism gets clicks.
    All I am asking for on my third attempt time is:
    Where are all of the rural white pillbilly Americans living? Are you worried you are going to upset someone because of your typical stereotyping approach?
    Not sure what you're getting at.  but here you go: https://www.ers.usda.gov/webdocs/publications/90556/eib-200.pdf



    If you're trying to make a point, go get your own data next time.
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