America's Gun Violence

oftenreading

It’s not worth getting not banned over. That’s what these guys want; for decent people to lose their cool over their loathsome comments. Then they get to feel like they won. 

my2hands

Calmer than anyone here

It's disgusting

my2hands

If I got banned for calling out someone mocking victims, especially crying children, then I have no idea what this band and fan club stand for. 

There's a line, I'm not the one who crossed it

dignin

There sure are a lot of crisis actors on the TV today. Who the hell is footing the bill?

Florida students walk out in protest: Live updates

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brianlux

unsung said:

dankind said:

Too bad he couldn't have defended himself with a defensive firearm.  Instead he is dead as a result of a gun free zone.

Congratulations. Probably your most tasteless post to date.  You really expect anyone here to benefit from this kind of statement.  Feis' first thought was to protect children and you'd rather it be to defend himself.  Wow...

brianlux

my2hands said:

If I got banned for calling out someone mocking victims, especially crying children, then I have no idea what this band and fan club stand for. 

There's a line, I'm not the one who crossed it

I would speak to your defense. 

Unsung, please just stop with your cold remarks or maybe find another place to take them.  This is not the time or place.

Degeneratefk

unsung said:

my2hands said:

Unsung... you are fucking disgusting and should be ashamed of yourself, but it's obvious you are shameless. 

Keep mocking victims, fake fucking tough guy

You are half the man that these kids are

Personal attacks are not allowed on these forums.

We all want to stop the senseless acts, we have different ways of wanting to do so.  I have never attacked you in such a fashion.  I urge you to be more tolerant of the diversity that we all present.

You're personally attacking the children affected by this tragedy. It is quite sickening. What you're posting is not helping. I  fact, it's hindering the efforts to stop these tragedies from occuring. 

Tolerance works both ways. 

Meltdown99

And these last few pages are why the gun problem will never be solved ... everyone has got their heals dug in...no common sense...the government makes weed illegal, yet people are allowed to own these semi-automatic killing machines.  And damn right, show-every last gory detail of the killing field ... after-all most American don’t seemed to disturbed looking at death on tv from other parts of the world...

by the way...please explain how any gun nut thinks he can ever defend himself if the government turned on them...don’t think these guns will take out fighters jets, do much damage to tanks and on Ian on ... not to mention my money is on the professional soldier as opposed to some red neck who think automatic killing machine will stop a well trained professional soldier.

riley540

Meltdown99 said:

And these last few pages are why the gun problem will never be solved ... everyone has got their heals dug in...no common sense...the government makes weed illegal, yet people are allowed to own these semi-automatic killing machines.  And damn right, show-every last gory detail of the killing field ... after-all most American don’t seemed to disturbed looking at death on tv from other parts of the world...

by the way...please explain how any gun nut thinks he can ever defend himself if the government turned on them...don’t think these guns will take out fighters jets, do much damage to tanks and on Ian on ... not to mention my money is on the professional soldier as opposed to some red neck who think automatic killing machine will stop a well trained professional soldier.

There are many skilled citizens, not everyone is a “redneck”. 

Governments have been responsible for the most genocide and human casualty as far back as history will take us. 

Sure, our government is ok, but anything can happen and it’s inportant that the people have protection from that. 

Also, all guns, besides revolvers are semi-automatic. It’s a pointless term to use and use used to mislead uneducated people. 

Yes, mass shootings need to stop, but realizing that all guns are made to kill is important. If someone breaks into my moms house in the night, damn straight she should be able to kill the intruder. 

Quit stereotyping gun owners. 99% of them obey the laws and keep to themselves. Even Bernie Sanders was saying this until he sold out to the Dems.  

cincybearcat

my2hands said:

If I got banned for calling out someone mocking victims, especially crying children, then I have no idea what this band and fan club stand for. 

There's a line, I'm not the one who crossed it

I agree. This isn’t about disagreeing. His posts are overtly offensive and far over the line. 

Degeneratefk

These weapons need to be classified as WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Once this designation is officially placed on these guns, the  it's easy to ban them. No civilian is allowed to own, purchase, or sell a WMD. It's the same as Nixon putting weed on the federal schedule 1 list. All we need are some legislators with the balls to do it.

riley540

Degeneratefk said:

These weapons need to be classified as WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Once this designation is officially placed on these guns, the  it's easy to ban them. No civilian is allowed to own, purchase, or sell a WMD. It's the same as Nixon putting weed on the federal schedule 1 list. All we need are some legislators with the balls to do it.

It would launch a war. Not going to happen. 

Degeneratefk

riley540 said:

Degeneratefk said:

These weapons need to be classified as WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Once this designation is officially placed on these guns, the  it's easy to ban them. No civilian is allowed to own, purchase, or sell a WMD. It's the same as Nixon putting weed on the federal schedule 1 list. All we need are some legislators with the balls to do it.

It would launch a war. Not going to happen. 

How so? Who would start this war? 

riley540

Degeneratefk said:

riley540 said:

Degeneratefk said:

These weapons need to be classified as WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Once this designation is officially placed on these guns, the  it's easy to ban them. No civilian is allowed to own, purchase, or sell a WMD. It's the same as Nixon putting weed on the federal schedule 1 list. All we need are some legislators with the balls to do it.

It would launch a war. Not going to happen. 

How so? Who would start this war? 

The people. For the government infringing on their rights to protect themselves. 

OnWis97

riley540 said:

Meltdown99 said:

And these last few pages are why the gun problem will never be solved ... everyone has got their heals dug in...no common sense...the government makes weed illegal, yet people are allowed to own these semi-automatic killing machines.  And damn right, show-every last gory detail of the killing field ... after-all most American don’t seemed to disturbed looking at death on tv from other parts of the world...

by the way...please explain how any gun nut thinks he can ever defend himself if the government turned on them...don’t think these guns will take out fighters jets, do much damage to tanks and on Ian on ... not to mention my money is on the professional soldier as opposed to some red neck who think automatic killing machine will stop a well trained professional soldier.

Sure, our government is ok, but anything can happen and it’s inportant that the people have protection from that. 

We want a government strong enough to blow islam back to the stone age yet weak enough to be taken down by a junta of hillbillies.

Degeneratefk

riley540 said:

Degeneratefk said:

riley540 said:

Degeneratefk said:

These weapons need to be classified as WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Once this designation is officially placed on these guns, the  it's easy to ban them. No civilian is allowed to own, purchase, or sell a WMD. It's the same as Nixon putting weed on the federal schedule 1 list. All we need are some legislators with the balls to do it.

It would launch a war. Not going to happen. 

How so? Who would start this war? 

The people. For the government infringing on their rights to protect themselves. 

Since when do you need an AR-15, aka a weapon of mass destruction, to protect yourself? Does your shotgun not protect you? What about your pistols or hand guns? Do you need a suitcase bomb to protect yourself? Or a nuclear weapon? Maybe a biological weapon? 

I don't remember a war breaking out when the assault weapons ban was first initiated in the 90s. The fact of the matter is you don't need an AK-47 to protect yourself. Besides, nobody wants to take your guns away. I'm not opposed to allowing people that already own one to keep them. Just making it illegal to buy or sell them after they are classified as WMDs. 

riley540

Degeneratefk said:

riley540 said:

Degeneratefk said:

riley540 said:

Degeneratefk said:

These weapons need to be classified as WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Once this designation is officially placed on these guns, the  it's easy to ban them. No civilian is allowed to own, purchase, or sell a WMD. It's the same as Nixon putting weed on the federal schedule 1 list. All we need are some legislators with the balls to do it.

It would launch a war. Not going to happen. 

How so? Who would start this war? 

The people. For the government infringing on their rights to protect themselves. 

Since when do you need an AR-15, aka a weapon of mass destruction, to protect yourself? Does your shotgun not protect you? What about your pistols or hand guns? Do you need a suitcase bomb to protect yourself? Or a nuclear weapon? Maybe a biological weapon? 

I don't remember a war breaking out when the assault weapons ban was first initiated in the 90s. The fact of the matter is you don't need an AK-47 to protect yourself. Besides, nobody wants to take your guns away. I'm not opposed to allowing people that already own one to keep them. Just making it illegal to buy or sell them after they are classified as WMDs. 

It sounded like you want an all gun ban. Although AR15s are not much different that many other guns. 

Im not a gun owner personally. Not my thing 

Degeneratefk

riley540 said:

Degeneratefk said:

riley540 said:

Degeneratefk said:

riley540 said:

Degeneratefk said:

These weapons need to be classified as WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. Once this designation is officially placed on these guns, the  it's easy to ban them. No civilian is allowed to own, purchase, or sell a WMD. It's the same as Nixon putting weed on the federal schedule 1 list. All we need are some legislators with the balls to do it.

It would launch a war. Not going to happen. 

How so? Who would start this war? 

The people. For the government infringing on their rights to protect themselves. 

Since when do you need an AR-15, aka a weapon of mass destruction, to protect yourself? Does your shotgun not protect you? What about your pistols or hand guns? Do you need a suitcase bomb to protect yourself? Or a nuclear weapon? Maybe a biological weapon? 

I don't remember a war breaking out when the assault weapons ban was first initiated in the 90s. The fact of the matter is you don't need an AK-47 to protect yourself. Besides, nobody wants to take your guns away. I'm not opposed to allowing people that already own one to keep them. Just making it illegal to buy or sell them after they are classified as WMDs. 

It sounded like you want an all gun ban. Although AR15s are not much different that many other guns. 

Im not a gun owner personally. Not my thing 

Not at all. I am opposed to an all,gun ban. I want to see these assault rifles like AR-15s and AK-47s out of the hands of regular civilians. People simply do not need this type of military style weapon. 

Anyone that claims they have to have one for protection has been brainwashed by the NRA. People that claim they need these guns to hunt, should never be allowed to own a gun if they need to spray 45 rounds in a minute to kill a deer. 

So let's officially designate these weapons for what they are: weapons of mass destruction. 

Meltdown99

riley540 said:

Meltdown99 said:

And these last few pages are why the gun problem will never be solved ... everyone has got their heals dug in...no common sense...the government makes weed illegal, yet people are allowed to own these semi-automatic killing machines.  And damn right, show-every last gory detail of the killing field ... after-all most American don’t seemed to disturbed looking at death on tv from other parts of the world...

by the way...please explain how any gun nut thinks he can ever defend himself if the government turned on them...don’t think these guns will take out fighters jets, do much damage to tanks and on Ian on ... not to mention my money is on the professional soldier as opposed to some red neck who think automatic killing machine will stop a well trained professional soldier.

There are many skilled citizens, not everyone is a “redneck”. 

Governments have been responsible for the most genocide and human casualty as far back as history will take us. 

Sure, our government is ok, but anything can happen and it’s inportant that the people have protection from that. 

Also, all guns, besides revolvers are semi-automatic. It’s a pointless term to use and use used to mislead uneducated people. 

Yes, mass shootings need to stop, but realizing that all guns are made to kill is important. If someone breaks into my moms house in the night, damn straight she should be able to kill the intruder. 

Quit stereotyping gun owners. 99% of them obey the laws and keep to themselves. Even Bernie Sanders was saying this until he sold out to the Dems.  

I’ll be the first to admit I know very little about guns.  My point being is that the government will always be more heavily armed than the citizens.  

riley540

Meltdown99 said:

riley540 said:

Meltdown99 said:

And these last few pages are why the gun problem will never be solved ... everyone has got their heals dug in...no common sense...the government makes weed illegal, yet people are allowed to own these semi-automatic killing machines.  And damn right, show-every last gory detail of the killing field ... after-all most American don’t seemed to disturbed looking at death on tv from other parts of the world...

by the way...please explain how any gun nut thinks he can ever defend himself if the government turned on them...don’t think these guns will take out fighters jets, do much damage to tanks and on Ian on ... not to mention my money is on the professional soldier as opposed to some red neck who think automatic killing machine will stop a well trained professional soldier.

There are many skilled citizens, not everyone is a “redneck”. 

Governments have been responsible for the most genocide and human casualty as far back as history will take us. 

Sure, our government is ok, but anything can happen and it’s inportant that the people have protection from that. 

Also, all guns, besides revolvers are semi-automatic. It’s a pointless term to use and use used to mislead uneducated people. 

Yes, mass shootings need to stop, but realizing that all guns are made to kill is important. If someone breaks into my moms house in the night, damn straight she should be able to kill the intruder. 

Quit stereotyping gun owners. 99% of them obey the laws and keep to themselves. Even Bernie Sanders was saying this until he sold out to the Dems.  

I’ll be the first to admit I know very little about guns.  My point being is that the government will always be more heavily armed than the citizens.  

Fair enough. I can agree with that. We might fare a little better than the romans did, but over all the government is powerful. 

Im the same with guns. The past few months I’ve been trying to learn a bit more. I have a lot of family members and friends that own guns, so I figured it was fair to try to educate myself a bit. 

My fiances brother bought a new gun over the holiday and he let me hold it. I didn’t like it. I personally don’t feel comfortable holding a gun at all